The Mini Juice Machine Mk 3

[MastiffMike]

I was thinking about an insulating spray coating.

Since I know nothing about that let me ask:
Would it handle the spring flexing without cracking?
How would it wear (i.e. repeated use wear through)?

I guess another option might be heat shrink tubing?

 

[petercro]

After spending 3 hours in the shower, scrubbing of the excess epoxy putty I was covered in.
Then another 2 hours scrubbing of the excess spray paint.
This is were I'm at so far.
Bottle contains 24mg cherry pg, 18650 (UN-protected).
Push down, home made switch, (just have to fashion a retaining screw.
No Master switch. ( Am working on a lock off for the push switch).

Epoxy workmanship is not as good as I would have liked!
But
Vapes like a dream.
No leaks between the bottle and the atty. (Thanks Highping)
As before sucks back excess liquid. (Clyde, I don't know if it self primes, Only time will tell) I will keep you updated on that score.
Very little pressure on the bottle required to refill the atty.

I had a few problems working with large pieces of copper.
(As you have to heat the hole piece to get the solder to flow and adhere).

A Few changes are required on the MK3.2.
If I build a charging stand the atty has to be removed, but also the LED would stay on while on charge. Which I don't like.
The bottle atty connection would also include the LED built within it.
I could remove a small section of the bottle top to house it.

I must admit that I'm seriously looking forward to using this mod, But it is still not right.
I want to remove the copper all together and use plastic tops / bottoms.

And when I do, the warning stickers will say (Explosion proof if you are NOT daft enough to use un-protected batteries.

 

[WillyB]

Looks pretty cool. Is your plastic pipe PVC?

White PVC sch40 plumbing fittings - PlumbingSupply.com

 

[petercro]

Looks pretty cool. Is your plastic pipe PVC?

White PVC sch40 plumbing fittings - PlumbingSupply.com

Yes it is.
local plumbing dept B&Q UK.

 

[clyde2801]

Nice. But why a master switch? Is the button easy to activate accidentally?

 

[Guineahill]

Since I know nothing about that let me ask:
Would it handle the spring flexing without cracking?
How would it wear (i.e. repeated use wear through)?

I guess another option might be heat shrink tubing?

The one aerosol I have tried would flex well. I cannot, however, speak of its durability in this type of application. As you said, heat shrink is an option also. And there are many other products that might work, but I haven't tried them specifically for use in this manner. An experiment is in order, but it will need to wait for a week or two.

And when I do, the warning stickers will say (Explosion proof if you are NOT daft enough to use un-protected batteries.

LOL - I would love to see you affix a label with that warning!

 

[highping]

Nice. But why a master switch? Is the button easy to activate accidentally?

Clyde...did you not see the whole explosion paranoia that's hit the forum in the last few days?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...oding-mods-current-situation.html#post1128521

kind of a joke if you ask me (but nobody asked me)

 

[Kirothak]

wow just wow, i have spent most the night reading through threads on many cool mods, mahmba, mrpuffs, the dream PVs, your mkII and this. I have to say many ppl on these forms are pure genius.

Sadly though I am not by any means dumb, doing this kind of stuff is a far off dream to me.

Awaiting the day when these amazing devices are available to the less brilliant masses till then its me and my 510 and playing with cart mods hehe

 

[clyde2801]

Clyde...did you not see the whole explosion paranoia that's hit the forum in the last few days?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...oding-mods-current-situation.html#post1128521

kind of a joke if you ask me (but nobody asked me)

It's like the Army, one guy s%^)s his pants, and the whole company has to wear diapers.

 

[Ralph T]

It's like the Army, one guy s%^)s his pants, and the whole company has to wear diapers.

So that was you Clyde! Bloused your boots? LOL JK

Back on topic though... Very, very nice work Petercro.

 

[nicotime]

Progressing along nicely I see Petercro. What atty do you guys use for bottom feeding? I dont see what prevent the juice from coming out of the air holes...if they have any. I only have a 510 so I know nothing about other attys/cartos.

 

[petercro]

Progressing along nicely I see Petercro. What atty do you guys use for bottom feeding? I dont see what prevent the juice from coming out of the air holes...if they have any. I only have a 510 so I know nothing about other attys/cartos.

Thanks Nicotime.
I use the RN4081's, I find the vapour to be smooth and warm, and plenty of it.
Where as Highping' basic JB Mod uses 510's.
There is a small amount of liquid that can seep out of the air inlet holes,
but, I also find that when you draw on the atty it is sucked back in.
The only downside to this type of mod is that the atty nearly always sounds like it is flooded. (But it is NOT).
The gurgling, bubbling noise if from the excess liquid in the air inlet holes and threads.
This liquid is eventually sucked back into the atty and is vaped.
But if you pump the bottle for too long, excess liquid can flow out of the air holes.
I always set the battery connector at a point where the 2 air inlet holes are just above flush to the top of the mod.
So any excess liquid sits outside the mod itself.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

Love the look of this mod. Love that it uses the 18650 battery ( my fav )

New glasses i see, peter...very cool

 

[clyde2801]

Thanks Nicotime.
I use the RN4081's, I find the vapour to be smooth and warm, and plenty of it.
Where as Highping' basic JB Mod uses 510's.
There is a small amount of liquid that can seep out of the air inlet holes,
but, I also find that when you draw on the atty it is sucked back in.
The only downside to this type of mod is that the atty nearly always sounds like it is flooded. (But it is NOT).
The gurgling, bubbling noise if from the excess liquid in the air inlet holes and threads.
This liquid is eventually sucked back into the atty and is vaped.
But if you pump the bottle for too long, excess liquid can flow out of the air holes.
I always set the battery connector at a point where the 2 air inlet holes are just above flush to the top of the mod.
So any excess liquid sits outside the mod itself.

I'll vouch for that. I spent a couple of weeks with the v2.
1. The gurgling atty is what I eventually learned to shoot for. It sounded like you slurping the last bit of soda out of a glass, but the taste was incredible.
2. With my mod, using the same 4081 copper tube setup, a good draw on the atty would take juice to it-no squeezing needed for most of the time.
3. And, any excess juice from over priming would safely vent to the outside of the box. Atty flooding wasn't really an issue at all, but the atty could be easily removed and blown out as with any conventional atty.

I desperately want to try his newest creation, but I'm not gonna rush him this time. (Do have a selection of 4081s and 18650s awaitin', though.)

 

[nicotime]

Would it be possible to stick a tiny bit of silica wick in the hole as far up against the coils cup as you can to help hold the juice there?

 

[CloudBurst]

You guys are simply awesome...the future of the PV's!!! Looks like a race to the finish line to get these in our hands! Better yet, a "how to" if you don't plan on selling.
Again, great work!

 

[petercro]

Would it be possible to stick a tiny bit of silica wick in the hole as far up against the coils cup as you can to help hold the juice there?

Now that sounds like a plan!
But the total reason I started this design is to use factory build standard attys.
Adding a silica wick takes the design into a different direction.
Or Not
I have just had a thought.
If the mod were sold by me or HP or anyone who is working on the configuration , a standard atty could be used.
But also a modded atty could be sold at an additional cost.
Removing the +ve ring stuff silica wick inside and replacing the +ve ring.

Nicotime, I know you are one of the good guys, but I do hate it when someone puts a spark of an idea into my mind, the bloody thing will not turn off at the best of times, but now I have yet another thing to think about. LOL.
I know you have been doing some tests with silica wicks,
I'm rather busy and find it difficult to keep up with all threads, (forgive me).
Let me know how its going.
Your idea is worth lots of further investigation.
As is a few others which have come to my attention.

Poly Fuses = Perfect : On order.
Mosfets = Solid state touch switch : On order.
Lock off device = Designed and built.
Tritium = I would love to, but US Customs would kill me.

 

[nicotime]

Hahaha...sorry Petercro...I know the feeling, I get sidetracked and sucked in to over engineering myself to the point nothing gets built.

The wick may actually make it worse by holding the juice instead of letting it flow to the coil also.

I'll let you go...you'll figure it out OK without my yappin anyway.

 

[petercro]

Mosfets
The one I ordered did not do the job.
The voltage required to keep the gate open was too high.
I found a UK supplier of ones that should work.
Check out this link if your interested.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/madvapes/64214-mosfet-3-7-volt-3.html#post1145236

Google CPC in the UK, they sell them.
Oh and thanks again Scottbee

 

[MastiffMike]

Oh and thanks again Scottbee

What, you've had contact with Scottbee? Oh I'm screwed!!!! The great minds are talking behind closed doors!!! How am I supposed to steal all your great ideas if I can't READ them???

Least HP is steal publicly posting.... oh crap, now you're gonna go recruit him too??? ARGGGG!