The new 18650 NoEgo

[romaniac]

I am surprised (and disappointed) to see that the NoEgo is regulated like that.

The reason for the surprise: I've had the impression that your NoEgos are your branding of the Smok Tech E-Power. According to pbusardo's video review of the E-Power – with batteries fresh off the charger – it measures 4.2V (which is what one would expect from a non-regulated 14500, 14650, or 18650 battery). Also, two people in this thread have recommended using the NoEgo with high-drain IMR batteries. Would that even be relevant in a regulated 3.7V device?

My disappointment comes from the fact that what I like best about high-mAh batteries is that they hold the higher voltage far longer than low-mAh batts. [Since I am pretty much a stay-at-home guy, the length of time between charges doesn't matter all that much.] And, since I already have 18650 batts and charger, I like the fact that yours is available without them for such a low price ... and, of course, looks so nice.

Does that 3.7V regulation also apply to the 18650 version?

I have tried to produce these two units wit a different company before the company that is making the EXO.I still have the 18650 the first prototype of the 18650 EXO. Unfortunately they choose to cannibalize parts from an ego battery and whatever they find already made parts at the time for their current EXO reason for witch I stop cooperating with them. I contacted SmokTech and they agreed to work with me and they produced the 18650 according with our design specifications and instructions. Some of my choices may not be the best at the time but one thing is sure is that with SmokTech that we can change what we need to without problems . They are very good about that. The 5 V switch will be available hopefully in about 1 week from now also a more sturdy thin copper tube and cone are also in the works. I choose aluminium because the light weight but soon I hope the new copper tubing will be light enough to make the 18650 as comfortable as the current unit. I wish i would have the extensive knowledge in electronics as some of the members of this forum but I do not. One of the requirements I had was that both the 18650 and the 14500/14650 units will be calibrated to function with all the existing dual coil cartomizers. And they delivered on my request accordingly. There is no question that there are more improvements possible but my main goal is to offer and quality products at a price that is reasonable and reflective of the current economical situation. G.A.Tech will continue to improve all its current models. The reason we choose the modular design is to offer customers the ability to choose their favorite configuration and still keep it at accessible and comfortable prices. We are aware and admire your extensive knowledge of electronic cigarettes and I regret that our current offerings do not meet your technical requirements but I hope that soon we will be able address them in acceptable conditions. I want to reassure you that your observations are valuable to us and we will use them in further developments.

Romaniac

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Thank you so much, Romaniac, for that in-depth – and rapid – response!

Let me hasten to assure you (and anyone else reading this) that:

• I am not a technical expert! [For example, I was a Dramatic Arts major in college. Can't get much less technical than that.] Anything I may think I know about the electronics of PVs I learned here on ECF from those far more technically savvy than I.

• It is not the case that your "current offerings do not meet [my] technical requirements." I just probe to learn all I can about a vaping product before I purchase or recommend it to others.

For what it's worth, your "requirements...that both the 18650 and the 14500/14650 units...be calibrated to function with all the existing dual coil cartomizers" seem sound. I personally would want that in any PV I use today.

Don't be surprised if I wind up ordering one of these neat, low-cost mods. [BTW, I've been quite impressed by the rave reviews your Jazz CartoPipe has been receiving.]

 

[fsroq]

The most interesting mod is still to come. the vv mod, as stated earlier in this thread will be also available.

 

[romaniac]

Thank you so much, Romaniac, for that in-depth – and rapid – response!

Let me hasten to assure you (and anyone else reading this) that:

• I am not a technical expert! [For example, I was a Dramatic Arts major in college. Can't get much less technical than that.] Anything I may think I know about the electronics of PVs I learned here on ECF from those far more technically savvy than I.

• It is not that case that your "current offerings do not meet [my] technical requirements." I just probe to learn all I can about a vaping product before I purchase or recommend it to others.

For what it's worth, your "requirements...that both the 18650 and the 14500/14650 units...be calibrated to function with all the existing dual coil cartomizers" seem sound. I personally would want that in any PV I use today.

Don't be surprised if I wind up ordering one of these neat, low-cost mods. [BTW, I've been quite impressed by the rave reviews your Jazz CartoPipe has been receiving.]

Your work in and for the vaping community is amazing. Many of us started this using your guide lines. I have a tremendous respect for all your work. Under any circumstances I have not taken any of your comments as a negative. This is a small company and we are limited in how fast we can expand or modify the existing models. Limited time wise but we will do it. Those are not excuses for some of our shortcomings. They will be addressed as soon as we will be able to. Thank you for your interest and support.

Romaniac

 

[fenderbc]

I have been vaping both NoEgo all day and very happy with the performance. I am not a technical expert but I used one of those voltage indicator from Madvapes to read the voltage and the 14500 version is just flashing with no readout. I am assuming this is because it is regulated to 3.7V? When I put it on the 18650, it is giving me a 4.02 reading. Does this mean that it is not regulated?

 

[bstedh]

I do not believe the voltage is regulated...

Unloaded I get full battery voltage off of both. However they do cut off at about 3.6V so I am assuming they are simply designed to not let the voltage drop below this level to maintain a better vape that does not drop into the lower voltages. However saying that the Mad vapes voltage meter does not register a voltage would seem to indicate a switching regulator is being used???

 

[fenderbc]

I do not believe the voltage is regulated...

Unloaded I get full battery voltage off of both. However they do cut off at about 3.6V so I am assuming they are simply designed to not let the voltage drop below this level to maintain a better vape that does not drop into the lower voltages. However saying that the Mad vapes voltage meter does not register a voltage would seem to indicate a switching regulator is being used???

FYI, I got the same flashing thing with no readout with eGo/ Riva.

 

[bstedh]

It very well could have a PWM regulator. You would have to have a True RMS meter to get an accurate voltage reading with that type of circuit. So it very well could be regulated. Without an RMS meter it will look like you are getting full voltage even though you really are not. I do not have a break out adapter or inline meter to test under load so I can't say for sure. All I can really say is that it works good for me with 1.25ohm duals.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Well – after a series of posts here (and helpful posts by others), PM conversations with Romaniac, and hemming and hawing;-) – I finally placed my order for the 18650 NoEgo! Can't wait to get it!

 

[romaniac]

Well – after a series of posts here (and helpful posts by others), PM conversations with Romaniac, and hemming and hawing;-) – I finally placed my order for the 18650 NoEgo! Can't wait to get it!

Order shipped. Thank you for your business and support.

 

[Skeeterkck]

Your prices are amazing on the NoEgo. I will purchase 2 separately, after my issues are resolved at home.
Skeeterkck

 

[WillyB]

I am surprised (and disappointed) to see that the NoEgo is regulated like that.

The reason for the surprise: I've had the impression that your NoEgos are your branding of the Smok Tech E-Power. According to pbusardo's video review of the E-Power – with batteries fresh off the charger – it measures 4.2V (which is what one would expect from a non-regulated 14500, 14650, or 18650 battery). Also, two people in this thread have recommended using the NoEgo with high-drain IMR batteries. Would that even be relevant in a regulated 3.7V device?

My disappointment comes from the fact that what I like best about high-mAh batteries is that they hold the higher voltage far longer than low-mAh batts. [Since I am pretty much a stay-at-home guy, the length of time between charges doesn't matter all that much.] And, since I already have 18650 batts and charger, I like the fact that yours is available without them for such a low price ... and, of course, looks so nice.

Does that 3.7V regulation also apply to the 18650 version?

There must be some confusion here Don. There can be no such thing as a 3.7V regulated single cell device.

Here's Scottbee's unfettered 14500 loaded voltage test with a 2.5Ω load.

Here's tonyorion's with a AW2600 Li-ion firing a Joye 510.

So 3.85 - 3.7 = .15V. Not a lot of vaping time out of .15V.

A lower res atty would yield even lower volts

You can't regulate a single cell to it's nominal voltage, unless you plan on a 15 minute vape time.

 

[fsroq]

Hmm a week has passed after you said in a week the 5V switch would be available. Any update?

 

[Dalton63841]

Okay I FINALLY got the girlfriend talked into a NoEgo, after a failed shot at a Riva. Quick question, I've heard there are talks of a VV switch for these mods...Any chance of that?

 

[mwa102464]

Okay I FINALLY got the girlfriend talked into a NoEgo, after a failed shot at a Riva. Quick question, I've heard there are talks of a VV switch for these mods...Any chance of that?

I heard about a 5Amp switch for 6v use on the No Go from romaniac, but not a VV did you here this from romaniac there Dalton63841 or just heard it thrown around ? A VV switch would be super in my opinion for the No Go !

 

[fsroq]

It is reported by the manufacturer that first the 5V will be released, and later a VV.

Waiting also for the VV. It is also said that these will be modular, so you can get the 5V when it will be for sale, and later buy just the VV module. I like that idea and will get the 5V as soon as it will be available, and then later buy a VV with Volt indicater.

Please give us an update about 5V and VV.

 

[mwa102464]

That's great news Fsroq, I'm currently waiting on a pair of the 5amp switches myself

 

[fsroq]

5 amps, that should all have, with the triple coils they are planning to release. We all will have to look for big bats, and high amp switches.

 

[Dalton63841]

It is reported by the manufacturer that first the 5V will be released, and later a VV.

Waiting also for the VV. It is also said that these will be modular, so you can get the 5V when it will be for sale, and later buy just the VV module. I like that idea and will get the 5V as soon as it will be available, and then later buy a VV with Volt indicater.

Please give us an update about 5V and VV.

Yes this is what I heard. Instead of buying a new unit, you will just buy the 5v or VV switch, and swap it with your switch.

 

[bstedh]

I am very close to having my own NOEGO VV =]. Working on board layout and hope to have it put together by the end of the week. The only problem is that I don't have any shortie batteries for when it's done to tell if it even works. =[