The Nicotine Myth - YouTube video

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Kurt

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Very nice find, Elaine! And brings up the whole issue of sedish snus not causing mouth cancer...or tooth decay. All caused by the US way of preserving the tobacco (fermentation, as opposed to pasteurization) and adding unwanted sugars, like molasses. But then scientific facts never seem to bother the FDA. It is seems US products of almost all kinds are required to poison us in some way. Criminal.
 

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Thanks for the video!

Question... The Camel snus is clearly labelled as

0% U.S. Tobacco 100% Foreign Tobacco
Sale only allowed in the United States

Is the tobacco in Camel snus fermented or no?

[warning kinda cracked me and another vaper up... sounds like something you'd do if you were infiltrating an enemy country]

I don't know, but I'll ask a scientist at RJR.
 

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Here is the answer I received from a scientist at R J Reynolds:

Camel snus was developed originally in Sweden and matches the Swedish style of tobacco, both type and processing. Although technically a slight misnomer (for Swedish and Camel snus), it is pasteurized and not fermented. Fermenting is the traditional processing for American moist snuff ("dip"), not snus. Hope that helps. And yes, I will be at the MRTP workshop.
 

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That's interesting and the first time I heard that Elaine. The one thing they didn't do was follow the same flavor direction. Where Swedish snus has a distinct salty flavor, which you don't notice much after the first few portions, Camel SNUS is sweeter tasting. Most rabid snusers don't like that variation although I seem to like both even though I overwhelming prefer Ss.
 

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Camel snus was developed originally in Sweden and matches the Swedish style of tobacco, both type and processing. Although technically a slight misnomer (for Swedish and Camel snus), it is pasteurized and not fermented. Fermenting is the traditional processing for American moist snuff ("dip"), not snus. Hope that helps. And yes, I will be at the MRTP workshop.
I really don't care what the scientist says, after using Swedish snus steadily for over a year I had no dental problems. Due to the PACT Act and financial problems I had to use Camel "snus", so after 3 months of the stuff I now have two teeth that need to be pulled and several others that need to be repaired. The dentist asked me if I had started soaking my teeth in sugar, Camel "snus" has some kind of sweetener or something that causes sever tooth decay if used like real snus.
 

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Thank you so much for finding this out, Ms Wonderful!!! (aka vocalek)

Personally, the pouches are just not comfortable -- too big for my jaw.

The Camel Sticks, however, are just fine. I break off a 3/4" piece and put it along my jawline. Don't really notice it there at all.

I had the same problem. Guess that contradicts those who accuse me of having a big mouth! :laugh:

I did find that the mini portions of the Swedish product fit my jaw OK.
 

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Bard, I did question the sweetness of SNUS. I normally only buy it if I forget to carry my stainless can when I am out and about, but that's happened maybe three times. I don't understand why Reynolds didn't go with the formula that worked in Sweden rather than sweetening up the product but I suppose it had more to do with America's sweet tooth than anything else.
 
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