THE Phoenix Line is here & up for SALE. both phoenix xl & 3ml tank version,bottom coil, 2 ohms for both

[Cyrus Vap]

Its 75% aqueous VG (10% H20 and 3% ETOH based flavor), almost PG like consistency, works like a beast in stardusts and fluxomizers

2.4-2.6 ohm bottom coil pheonix 1.5 ml, vaped on a Riva 510. Dry hits all night fellas. Not BONE dry mind you, but dry. Like a fluxo that's been vertical far too long and starving for a splash of juice.

I filled inverted. I let it sit. I have been revisiting through the night, same story. Super bummed! But not defeated

I threw it on a 510 skinny manual (Joytech so 3.3V or whatever) same issue, just less pronounced, but still there.

There is always a fix, just have to figure it out. This puppy needs some stickies of wisdom like the fluxo, I have high hopes for it being worked out

 

[badkolo]

when filling did oyu fill it all the way o juice hit the coil area, also if this is phoenix xl then open another and try it out, dont worry about wasting another one and try it out.

also if for some reason that particular one isnt performing, then follow my video on the phoenix where i remove the middle tube, use tweezers to pry it out then reseat it.

 

[doots]

I have been using the CE3 XL at 2.4-2.6 ohms and they have been excellent. I've been using one carto for almost a month. Now that it's broken in, it's even better than new. I did have some issues with thick juices. I open it and dry burn it after a couple of fills.

I'll see if the Phoenix handles thick juices better.

I've been using the Ce3s also wack like you and they have been very good.. No dry hits for me. Hoping the Phoenix will be just as good or even better, Ive had no issues at all with leaking or dry hits. Time will tell but Ive been using them at about 4 volts. The 2.4-2.6 ohm. Im using about a 50/50 mix

 

[Cyrus Vap]

yes bad just got the Xls in from you today, those are the ones

I filled inverted and I may have underfilled a bit because of the little instruction card warning against overfilling

I'm going to fill another one and see how it goes, and check out your video. Is it in this thread somewhere?

I just took three hard sucks without pushing the button, saw lots of bubbles. Then I hit the button, massive flavor. Now that's what I'm talking about!. But on the second hit, it got dry again. Sucked 2-3 times again, then hit the button. Flavor returned. So I guess its *some* kind of wicking issue/juice flow issue.

when filling did oyu fill it all the way o juice hit the coil area, also if this is phoenix xl then open another and try it out, dont worry about wasting another one and try it out.

also if for some reason that particular one isnt performing, then follow my video on the phoenix where i remove the middle tube, use tweezers to pry it out then reseat it.

 

[badkolo]

ok that could be exactly the issue, if there is to much air when you fill left over then when vaping its not working properly.

follow this video half way where i clean it, but ill make another video in 30 minutes to take them apart and how to fill and all the little nuances.

you can test this by squuezing the tube a little
doing so pops a bubble form the bottom and it vapes like a beast
but you want that to happen its own, so ill make a video to assist with that.

Phoenix xl & phoenix 3ml IN STOCK NOW, Showcase & Cleaning - YouTube

i had this issue last night, wasnt looking, didnt do it right and was getting a dry hit, sucked juice back out, redid it proeprly and it was fine.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

thank you sir! I'll keep you posted on the results. When it hits right, its a monster. Not as warm as the top coil fluxo vape, but flavor is right on the money. These could def be in my regular rotation.

 

[badkolo]

yes play aorund, test another one so you know your filling it right, once it is set you should be able to chain vape, also depends on the juice.

 

[sparkyth67]

Bad I just watche your video on cleaning them I have a plunger that goes on a syringe and screws on to the battery connection to clean cartos would that work ok on these

 

[Cyrus Vap]

sparkyth67 I don't see why not, but it might not be necessary (just guessing based on my use of fluxomizers). If you flush/rinse thoroughly, dry the tube and dry burn as bad did in the video, you shouldn't have any residual taste in there, and if there is, it'll be gone the second you fill

syringe flushing is most useful with filler cartos where you can't completely take things apart and dry burn without a huge PITA and practice; with clearos just rinse dry and dry burn and you're good to go. Just my opinion If its a really stubborn flavor (e.g. menthol) a soak in vodka (highest proof you can get) or vinegar (doesn't always work if its really strong flavor) will solve the issue

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Thank you for the PMs again bad, there is a reason gotvapes has such a strong following

Both clearos are getting better. Filling all the way makes a big difference for sure. I'm still having to primer suck every few hits, but that's either going to go away as the thing breaks in, takes some mod I haven't figured out yet, or use a thinner juice (haven't tested a high PG vape yet)

The flavor is out of control on these things. Its not as hot as fluxos, but more balanced, not sure which I like better. And all else being equal the vapor is HUGE, maybe even be a hair more than fluxos which doesn't make any sense to me but hey...

 

[wacko78]

Good to hear you have both I'm real curious to hear the comparison.

Now for some initial impressions:

They are mostly identical. I took both apart and the bits are almost interchangeable. The Phoenix cartos have a slightly smaller wick hole at the bottom, otherwise very minor manufacturing differences. The Phoenix cartos might be from a different supplier.

I put 100% VG juice, with standard thickness, from dripeez.com in both and they both perform really well. The vapor is nice and the flavor is excellent.

I haven't seen any major performance "improvement" in the Phoenix cartos. I would like to know what improvements GV has made to the original design and how it is supposed to help.

Otherwise, they are both winners.


EDIT: I checked with a multimeter and both of my cartos are rated at 3.0 ohm.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Man if you're getting flawless performance with 100% VG than its for sure not my juice! Any dry hits?

 

[wacko78]

Man if you're getting flawless performance with 100% VG than its for sure not my juice! Any dry hits?

The 100% VG from dripeez.com is not pure VG. It is thinned out with water, I believe.

I haven't tried something like Boba, don't have it. I did try Malty Toffee from Backwoods Brew (70/30 VG/PG) without any issues.

I get dry hits if I fill it fully. I leave some space.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Now for some initial impressions:

They are mostly identical. I took both apart and the bits are almost interchangeable. The Phoenix cartos have a slightly smaller wick hole at the bottom, otherwise very minor manufacturing differences. The Phoenix cartos might be from a different supplier.

I put 100% VG juice, with standard thickness, from dripeez.com in both and they both perform really well. The vapor is nice and the flavor is excellent.

I haven't seen any major performance "improvement" in the Phoenix cartos. I would like to know what improvements GV has made to the original design and how it is supposed to help.

Otherwise, they are both winners.


EDIT: I checked with a multimeter and both of my cartos are rated at 3.0 ohm.

Thanks Wacko I have three boxes of the ce3's and didn't order the regular phoenix. I did order some 3 ml versions has anyone tried them yet?

 

[Errol]

when filling did oyu fill it all the way o juice hit the coil area, also if this is phoenix xl then open another and try it out, dont worry about wasting another one and try it out.

also if for some reason that particular one isnt performing, then follow my video on the phoenix where i remove the middle tube, use tweezers to pry it out then reseat it.

What mixture of VG and PG are you using. If it's been covered before I missed it.

Errol

 

[BonnyC]

Well, my phoenix tank should be here tomorrow and not a moment too soon. I have a burnt taste coming from my stone 2 tank with replacement innards. I got a ton of use out of it, though. Cleaning isn't working and the cup seal came with a slice in it. It wasn't a problem for a long time, but now it's pretty much fallen apart. It's cool, I'm working on getting a seal from another carto to fit. And, yes, I cut the scorched part out, which was actually easier to do with the slice but probably made it worse.

The LR stardust tastes like it's ohms have gone up, but I don't have anything to check it with. It's a cool vape with almost no TH. I've tinkered and cleaned it, but no dice. Plus, it started to crack a few days after I got it and now it's starting to leak.

All of this is okay, though. I truly feel like I got my money's worth out of them and then some. I'm just really eager to get the phoenix because the vision extremes that I have are adequate, but I want a hoss

Edited to add : I'm thinking about taking the seal and metal cone from the stardust and modding it to work with the stone. I'll need to trim it down and it's a tight fit. I'd probably have to be careful not to tip it too far to avoid spills. Any thoughts?

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Errol its all been 75% aqueous VG (<<<--- 10% water), 22%-24% PG, and ETOH based flavor.

I filled with 100% pure PG, no difference at all. Full hit, dry hit, full hit, full hit, dry hit, etc. So its not my juice.

I also laid another small wick on top of the existing wick, no difference. Well maybe, I ended up getting a massive flood lol.

Not giving up!

 

[harleydiva]

ok that could be exactly the issue, if there is to much air when you fill left over then when vaping its not working properly.

follow this video half way where i clean it, but ill make another video in 30 minutes to take them apart and how to fill and all the little nuances.

doing so pops a bubble form the bottom and it vapes like a beast
but you want that to happen its own, so ill make a video to assist with that.

Phoenix xl & phoenix 3ml IN STOCK NOW, Showcase & Cleaning - YouTube

i had this issue last night, wasnt looking, didnt do it right and was getting a dry hit, sucked juice back out, redid it proeprly and it was fine.

Just watched the video....think I got the whole process...but one question. I have some CE3s (I know they are not the same). Cleaned them a couple of times and everything was fine until today. I turned them upside down today to fill them again....and all the juice ran out around the sides of the top silicon plug.

When I pulled the plug out of the top....I couldn't seem to get them by grabbing them by the middle....so I stuck the paper clip down between the plug and the tube. I'm thinking I messed up the seal by doing that. In the video....Chris used the syringe needle to pull out the plug.....did he stick it down the middle hole???

I have 2 boxes of Phoenix and 2-3ml arriving tomorrow....want to make sure I do it right. Think I ruined CE3s by messing up the seal?????

 

[Errol]

I was wondering what mixture Bad was using to make his videos to get that much vapor, hit after hit?

I'm starting to believe the good U-Tube reviewers are importing some secret, magic mixture to get so much vapor, surely not the same mix I'm using.

Errol

Errol its all been 75% aqueous VG (<<<--- 10% water), 22%-24% PG, and ETOH based flavor.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I'm actually getting just as much, if not more High VG FTW!

That said, the pheonix was giving me great vapor even with 100% PG