just pulled mine out of the mailbox, sprinted back to the apartment and filled one of each ohm, they are vaping beasts with some of the juices I have from VapeDudes (pretty sure they use a 50/50 mix) good flavor, a bit cooler than the clearomizers but flavor seems cleaner, and no danger of spitting drops of hot liquid on my tongue, a definite plus. tons of vapor, no gurgling, no leaking, and I can actually lay them down on their sides with no issues, a definate plus when dealing with standard egos which have a bad habit of falling over all the time when standing them up, yay! I had given up on bottom coil cartos until now (have a mostly full box of x7s and two boxes of the vortexes going to waste due to gurgling, and leaking issues) I have a ce3 I got from someone else to try and the only visual differences I can see is that the plastic on the Phoenix units are slightly frosty in comparison, IMO the two work pretty equally. Please keep these in stock bad because I can already tell this is going to be my go to cart from now on. the only thing that didn't work is the syringe that came with the first box, it wasn't drawing any liquid in, np though as I have my own supply of those.