The Pyrex SS hybrid Wick

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Thinking about this stuff laying in bed trying to fall asleep. Sick huh:D

Some random thoughts:

We know that a single roll mesh wick has little capillary action. But, would a single, double, or say three layer hollow wick have sufficient capillary action because it surrounded by the glass tube? Would the surface tension where the wick contacts the tubing inhibit or enhance capillary action in this case? If so, having less mass to bring up to temp, and more open area within the large hollow wick for vape to come off the wick may be a bonus.
 

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The results:

Since there is no fiberous material to slow the juice down, the juice explodes out the end of the tubes. Vapor comes in cycles, when the evacuated juice leaves the tube, more juice creeps up and the cycle repeats. So there must be some form of wicks to hold the juice from rapidly expanding and pushing hot "lava" into ones mouth LOL. Very tasty though, once the taste buds heal LOL
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Stuff the ends with a small SS stopper?

When I had a loose fitting SS mesh fly out like a missile with me it immediately popped hot juice balls out behind it. I can see this as a defensive system for use when your buddies try to convince you to start smoking again.:p
 

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So the anodized coat held up? What was the wall thickness of the tube?

Nah, not so much. I tried it with a bicycle pump needle. It started shorting not long into the experiment. It did heat up and boil the juice, but most importantly it completely blocks any airflow when you put it together. I don't think even using quartz tubing in this is going to work out just due to the mechanics involved. I guess if the tube was shorter, but it seems to me that it would be near impossible to coil some resistance wire on something that short, plus it has to be wrapped really tight, and that was very hard to do as I couldn't keep the first wrap of coil taught to keep it tight. I'm sure it would be easier with thicker tube to coil, but i dont think there just isn't going to be enough room to allow for the vapor to flow where we want it to. If we can figure out how to vertically wrap a coil... Perhaps.
 

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That "excellent insulating properties" kills it for me. I was looking at porous ceramics a while ago and the only thing I could find was wicks used in a small insect repellant device. The diameter was too big so I stopped looking at it. My thinking at the time was that, if it wicked well enough, and could be made in the correct length and diameter, it would be the Holy Grail of wicks. I'm getting a headache!!!!

I too was looking at these a while back and couldn't find a small enough suppler to get a sample for testing. I was on the thought process that you could mill the end down small enough for coil wrapping and and leave the rest as is. I just couldn't get my hands on one lol it can be very frustrating some times
 

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I didn't want to just wait for my tubes so I went out to my "find something that works stores", Ace Hardware, Lowes, and Radio Shack. I ended up buying a diamond cutoff wheel for my dremel tool and two krypton flashlight bulbs. The bulbs are still a bit too big and the walls too thick I think but I was able to produce a glass insulated SS wick for my Phoenix. The glass tube I got out of the bulb was really too short and my wick too small this first go around. It produced lots of vapor but the pressure of the heating juice shot the SS wick right out of the tube. I just made a vapor missile! :laugh:

That is funny.
 

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With regard to ceramic tubes: ceramic is the opposite end of the spectrum as far as heat transferrwnce goes. It is a good insulator which is not what we are looking for in this application. We want a material that transfers heat efficiently and quickly and radiates it fast. Ceramic would slowly absorb heat and radiate it slowly. It would also tend to radiate the heat outward towards the heat source not onwards towards the wick. I think we are already on the right course with the fused quartz. Similar materials that might even be better are sapphire or diamond. That's not as crazy as it sounds. One been looking into these materials as well and there may be some viable options there.

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mmm, rapidly going off this idea now.
reason, SS mesh is still present, and works better by itself.
what are the benefits of FQ isolation? - no more shorts, answer - wrap better coils!
Don't get me wrong but trying to force glass to work in a genesis style atty will be fraught with problems. Silica atties and genesis atties work in different ways, as I believe a FQ atty will in turn wick differently. Glass is a different beast altogether and thus requires a different approach to atty construction.

But I do hope somebody works it out in a geny. A new generation of FQ atties would be cool to add to the collection though

Engineering hats on. What would Tesla do?!
 

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man, this thread is moving like greased lightning :)

I have not technical knowledge to add, nor do I seem to be any sort of innovator, I just like trying the newest and best thing. I will keep reading if I can keep up here though. :)

I do have one question/comment. Is it really necessary for the tubing to go down into the chamber at all? Why couldn't we just cut a small piece where the coils go to protect the mesh? This would allow us to use sizes that did not necessarily have to fit in the holes.
 

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man, this thread is moving like greased lightning :)

I have not technical knowledge to add, nor do I seem to be any sort of innovator, I just like trying the newest and best thing. I will keep reading if I can keep up here though. :)

I do have one question/comment. Is it really necessary for the tubing to go down into the chamber at all? Why couldn't we just cut a small piece where the coils go to protect the mesh? This would allow us to use sizes that did not necessarily have to fit in the holes.
I tried the electronic fuse, that sat outside the wick hole. It was hell wrapping a coil around the glass. It wanted to slide all over the place. When I did manage to get it going. The juice would boil, and release hot drops of liquid. I turned down the voltage, and just wasn't enough vapor for me. Then after a few more hits, the coils were starting to glow red hot. It tasted like I was making out with an andriod.
 

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I tried the electronic fuse, that sat outside the wick hole. It was hell wrapping a coil around the glass. It wanted to slide all over the place. When I did manage to get it going. The juice would boil, and release hot drops of liquid. I turned down the voltage, and just wasn't enough vapor for me. Then after a few more hits, the coils were starting to glow red hot. It tasted like I was making out with an andriod.


is making out with a android fun or does it suck? :) JK you could pre-wrap around the glass I guess.

what about these?
Pyrex(r) Glass Capillary Tubes, Melting Point, Vial of 100: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

btw, they come in different sizes.
 
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