The Pyrex SS hybrid Wick

[BuzzKilla]

what if you added a layer of rolling paper, so that the enamel itself doesn't soak into the mesh at all?

just thinking out loud here...

still not sure about the enamel idea, but it seems promising.

 

[mre777]

I could so do this! I don't know about making beads but the concept is inspiring

 

[theECB]

Marking my spot to come back and read.

 

[BuzzKilla]

i wonder if just coating the coil in this method would e enough to achieve what everyone is trying to do...

add enough layers until we have a coil that looks like a tube with two wires sticking out of it

lol

 

[Cool_Breeze]

...interesting prelude to an article on ScienceDaily.com today.

Some people live their lives by the motto "no risk - no fun!" and relish risk-taking. Others are clearly more cautious and focus primarily on safety when investing and for other business activities. Scientists have studied the attitudes towards risk in a group of 56 subjects. They found that in people who preferred safety, certain regions of the brain show a higher level of activation when they are confronted with quite unforeseeable situations. In addition, they do not distinguish as clearly as risk takers whether a situation is more or less risky than expected.

 

[asdaq]

Hey slopes, how did you keep the the hole in the needle tube from filling in?

 

[JPoodles]

Theres got to be enamel out there without pigment. As usual we should dig up some facts but it looks really doable. I agree that only the coil need be coated and you wouldn't even need to coat it much at all to isolate the wick. 28 gauge would last longer and probably be easier to handle while enameling. Is there a final bake (annealing) needed? Look at how your child has grown Dan

 

[LucidAce]

Theres got to be enamel out there without pigment. As usual we should dig up some facts but it looks really doable. I agree that only the coil need be coated and you wouldn't even need to coat it much at all to isolate the wick. 28 gauge would last longer and probably be easier to handle while enameling. Is there a final bake (annealing) needed? Look at how your child has grown Dan

Have any of you already tried this stuff? 30 Feet Nichrome Wire w/ high temp. enamel coat 29 gauge .0113 dim 5.487 Ohms | eBay

There was somebody using something like it and talking about it over here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...261-wick-coil-tips-tricks-18.html#post7677364

 

[MattyB1503]

Wow, hahaha what a monster; just barely broke page 30.

So who's designing the next atty/hybrid with a countersunk wick hole, air baffling (as Rader2146 pointed out on pg. 17), and possibly a ceramic cup or sleeve for thermal isolation???

 

[JPoodles]

Have any of you already tried this stuff? 30 Feet Nichrome Wire w/ high temp. enamel coat 29 gauge .0113 dim 5.487 Ohms | eBay

There was somebody using something like it and talking about it over here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...261-wick-coil-tips-tricks-18.html#post7677364

That stuff couldn't possibly have a glass enamel on it...could it? How could it be bent without cracking the glass, I wonder. I would feel safer forming the coil first and then coating it...then annealing it
Check this fact Annealing (glass) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jubal81]

That stuff couldn't possibly have a glass enamel on it...could it? How could it be bent without cracking the glass, I wonder. I would feel safer forming the coil first and then coating it...then annealing it
Check this fact Annealing (glass) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's very common. That's how transformers (and guitar pickups) get wound.

 

[LucidAce]

It's very common. That's how transformers (and guitar pickups) get wound.

Do you know if it could work in this application? Will it handle the heat/heat cycles? Will it do ok with the relatively tight radius of a wick?

 

[jubal81]

Do you know if it could work in this application? Will it handle the heat/heat cycles? Will it do ok with the relatively tight radius of a wick?

I'm certain it will "work." What I can't say is how durable it will be. I don't think safety would be an issue. It's the same enamel cookware is made from.

Anyway, I ordered a bit to give it a go. Seems a much simpler solution than actually having to engineer anything.

 

[slopes]

Hey slopes, how did you keep the the hole in the needle tube from filling in?

Because I sprinkled the enamel powder onto a wetted tube, the hole filling in wasn't an issue. Dunking the hot tube into a bowl of enamel powder looks like it would achieve a better cover though... maybe a screw or something could be used to block the hole during the process??

From watching the video, my guess is the tube would only require one dunk anyway - the idea being to form the thinest possible barrier rather than build up a thick covering.

 

[l3oertjie]

Dan, very interesting read indeed!

I will follow this thread with much interest and see where it goes.

Pasteur pipette tips are usually very thin walled and could possibly tranfer the heat much quicker?

Well done again!

 

[mre777]

Theres got to be enamel out there without pigment. As usual we should dig up some facts but it looks really doable. I agree that only the coil need be coated and you wouldn't even need to coat it much at all to isolate the wick. 28 gauge would last longer and probably be easier to handle while enameling. Is there a final bake (annealing) needed? Look at how your child has grown Dan

In post #950 the link i posted was for a clear enamel

 

[mre777]

That stuff couldn't possibly have a glass enamel on it...could it? How could it be bent without cracking the glass, I wonder. I would feel safer forming the coil first and then coating it...then annealing it
Check this fact Annealing (glass) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its not a glass, i think its more of a high heat plastic. Its like the stuff they coat wires in transformers and other coils where space is an issue and they cant use thick insulation.

 

[VaporMizer]

Kanthal is available with a bunch of different insulation coatings:

http://www.kanthal.com/en/products/...ations-and-coatings/wire-insulation-coatings/

I noticed that a few days ago, but I figured it must've already been ruled out since it was right there on the Kanthal site.

EDIT: It's also available with anodizing and all kinds of stuff:
http://www.kanthal.com/en/products/...trip-form/wire/wire-insulations-and-coatings/

 

[gdeal]

Have any of you already tried this stuff? 30 Feet Nichrome Wire w/ high temp. enamel coat 29 gauge .0113 dim 5.487 Ohms | eBay

There was somebody using something like it and talking about it over here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...261-wick-coil-tips-tricks-18.html#post7677364

I have some of this wire. When I tested it, the coating stressed and/or flaked off when heated to operating temps.

 

[Skyway]

I am not even sure what is going on this thread any more. I take it you guys are no longer talking about doing Dan's method any longer?