i must say that until now, i still dont have any ideas on how it works. But it is a good R&D though for E-cig..
Put in a fresh 18650 and with one minute of dry burn was able to get 1048 deg F
Man, right now there are so many DUDs, CHUDs, ChIDs, DIDs out there, I'd say you may want to be a bit more specific. Any idea what the approx size of the wick port is on yours right now? May be kind of a moot point right now as you're probably vaping it as you type...
Soooo, you went ahead and did it anyway...![]()
Big Screen D bought some 1.5mm tubing which he plans on sticking into the hole.
Put in a fresh 18650 and with one minute of dry burn was able to get 1048 deg F
Woh, that is hot. Very close to the spec sheet of around 1200ºC max for Kanthal and NiChome. We may not dry burn that long, but what if if accidently fired for that period of time in your pocket...
do you use a VV/VW?
how long do you typically dry burn to clean off the coil?
you would feel it![]()
guys that sheet has 10000 S/cm and 10000 Siemens= 0.0001 Ohm [Ω] so I dont think it will work
what worried me initially was "PGS is a competitive conductive sheet with high thermal conductivity and high flexibility"
guys that sheet has 10000 S/cm and 10000 Siemens= 0.0001 Ohm [Ω] so I dont think it will work
what worried me initially was "PGS is a competitive conductive sheet with high thermal conductivity and high flexibility"
Just a repost on this because I think it was missed, and I don't think this is what we are looking for.
To my understanding that high of siemens number is considered not to be electrically conductive.
That would be 0.0001 Ohm/cm^2.
How can an estimate of resistance vs. actual contact area with the coil in a moist squishy environment be figured?
Right now, I'm calculated out (see below).
To my understanding that high of siemens number is considered not to be electrically conductive.
I don't see where you came up with those numbers or the energy passing ability - can you explain?
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Per the 4th page in the mouser.com provided PDF on Panasonic Prolytic Graphite Sheets, page 4, the thermal conductivity (Watts/Meter-Kelvin) for PGS 100μm is from 600 to 800 in the X, Y directions. In the Z direction, 15.
http://www.mouser.com/pdfdocs/ThermalGraphiteSheets.pdf
Units of heat applied to the surface of a 1 cm square area of PGS 100μm will travel an average of 0.5 cm to reach the 1 cm edge of the area. The same energy will travel 0.01 cm to pass through the surface of the 100 micrometer sheet.
I'll give some bias to the X, Y directions and choose a value of 750 W/m-K.
10 Watts applied to surface and traveling in the X, Y directions will generate 10 Watts/0.005 meters = 2,000 units.
10 Watts applied to the surface and traveling in the Z direction will generate 10 watts/0.0001 meters = 100,000 units.
Now for the offered thermal coeficients...750 for X,Y and 15 for Z...
2,000 units x 750 = 1,500,000. 100,000 units x 15 = 1,500,000.
For the size of 1 cm x 1 cm and 100μm thickness, the energy traveling in the Z-axis is the same as the energy traveling in the X and Y axes.
This is proof enough for me that the Z axis contains significant thermal conductivity relative to the area of material as might be utilized in an SS Mesh wrapped wick. Further adding to the energy which might pass through the Z axis is the notion that the prolytic graphite sheet of 1 cm x 1 cm AND rolled into a tube would elimante the heat flowing out in the X and Y axes. That limit of the flow away from the mesh would create more heat than if we were dealing with an unbounded 1 cm x 1 cm area within a continuous sheet as would be implied by the calculations.
If thermal transmission capacity is the only criteria, I suspect the Graphite Sheets will work fine. Number of possible layer and such are beyond this illustration. While the thermal capabilities seem encouraging, there may be physical properties and possible electrical conductance concerns that remain to be understood more clearly. As well, the Graphite Sheets have a specified Heat Resistance value of 400 degrees C.
F.A.U.F. (Factual And Useful Formulas)
1 meter = 100 cm = 1,000 mm = 1,000,000 μm
1 inch = 2.56 cm
1 cm = 10 mm = ~0.3937" = ~3/8".
The circumfrence of a 3/32" diameter wick is about 0.748 cm or 7.48 mm
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