The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)
- Thread starter billherbst
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
-
- Tags
- bloog goodejuice halo madvapes
- Status
I suspected caramel since I had some NF a while back and knew that organic flavorings, esp creamy ones like caramel had some naturally occurring diacetyl, so I figured others would?
It was also my understanding to rely on the flavoring companies themselves. I was not aware of any ejuice vendors who tested their flavors, although there are are few who have gas chromotography aren't there? I thought Ahlusions tested for instance.
I don't want to stay on this subject (but don't want to start a topic about it either for obvious reasons) except to ask you guys, do you think this is the "problem" that Dr. Farsalino's refers to when he describes his newest study intentions:
We believe this research will provide crucial information and will induce necessary changes in the electronic cigarette market to make the products as safe as they can possibly be.
The issue that will be studied is absolutely AVOIDABLE. These are ingredients that should definitely be avoided and can be easily removed. There is a method to make sure that they will not ever be present in e-cigarette liquids.
Electronic cigarette liquids analysis-evaluating potentially harmful ingredients | Indiegogo
Other than diacetyls and NETs, I cant' think of any other "problems" that I know about so I am assuming these are the "problems" to which he refers? I didn't want to ask.
I fully support MOV by the way, I said a year ago they were making all the right moves toward class outfit w/glass bottles, sealed, custom labels, etc. a biz that is obviously in it for the long term. Love all their products, esp. now that they have high VG.
Well it's a about time to try a new RY4. I've been wanting to order the Indigo varieties, but Mr E's comes highly recommended around the boards lately also. Decisions, decisions.
Can't go wrong with either of those---Indigo Classic (which, oddly enough, is a Custom RY4) and Mister-e-liquid MrE's RY4 are both terrific. They're in the A group for good reason.
I think I'll go with Indigo this time because I'd like to try a few of their other tobaccos. Already put the Classic in my cart and think I'll also try the hybrid RY4 Eastwood.
I'm vaping Butterfly's RY4 today, this is some really mellow and tasty stuff. It will definitely be on my re-order list going forward.
I'm vaping Butterfly's RY4 today, this is some really mellow and tasty stuff. It will definitely be on my re-order list going forward.
I'm really looking forward to trying Indigo.
Also, will be watching this thread for reactions to the reformulated Full Virginia Flake RY4 from MOV that recently became available. For the people who loved the original version, I hope it's pretty much the same. For my own selfish reasons, I hope it's quite different.
Also, will be watching this thread for reactions to the reformulated Full Virginia Flake RY4 from MOV that recently became available. For the people who loved the original version, I hope it's pretty much the same. For my own selfish reasons, I hope it's quite different.
Me too. I have no plans to order the new version, but---knowing Steve at MOV a little---I'll bet it's nearly a dead ringer for the original FVFRY4. Given your sophisticated palate, though, Jerms---and I mean that sincerely with not a hint of sarcasm---I wouldn't be surprised if you notice that the buttery quality you weren't thrilled with in the original diminishes some in the reformulated version.
I'm personally more interested in the reformulation of Gambler, although I can't say for sure that I'll buy that either. Fool that I am, I'll probably continue to vape the "toxic diacetyl" version, since I like it.
Lomb,
Another good classic RY4 you might like to try is Volt RY4. It is almost in between Mr Vapes and Butterfly. Volt has more flavor than Butterfly's RY4, but is still gentle on coils. Mr. Vapes is slightly harsher on coils (cartomizers last about a week in my tank), but Mr Vapes has a richer flavor. I like how Volt behaves and tastes. It would be a good addition, in line with the flavors you like.
And at $13.95 for 30ml, it won't break the budget.
Lol.. yeah, I'm a fool too and would have vaped up any of those removed if I had them on hand.
I was also thinking they would probably try to make the reformulation as close to the original as possible, as it was a pretty popular juice. Even a subtle change would make me interested though, as my complaints of that juice were borderline nit-picking, but the small issues I had were enough to not be as enjoyable for me as my favorite MOV NETs.
Gambler I'm still interested in, will order that next along with the rest of their new artis except Americano that I have. I'm thinking a big MOV order will be made when I order juice again... sometime next century.
Noted. I think I'll try Mr E and Volt along with Steam Monkey in March. I've done well in staying on budget the past four months now, and I would have had room for these two if it weren't for a Fasttech order. Oh well, have a itaste vw 3 coming and some replacement cartos so it was sort of necessity I suppose.
I also am looking forward to any reviews of the new FVFRY4 formulation. With 40+ ml of the original there will not be a re-order anytime soon.
If the new reviews declare it remarkably different, then I will put my original on a v e r y s l o w vaping routine to make it last.
Unless of course it is remarkably better, whatever that means, 'cause I don't know how it could be better.
Bill,
Just popped this one open fresh out of vapemail and is that mystery flavor a little cinnamon?
This is certainly a distinct RY4. I get the vanilla pretty strong, the caramel is a little more subdued but it's there as well. If I had to describe this RY4 in one word, I think it would be "brisk." It's a winner though, and why wouldn't it be as a B+ on the big list?
I'm letting the Indigo Classic and Eastwood breathe some, but I'm particularly looking forward to those two.
The Flavor Apprentice RY4 - Double is falling a little short for me at this time. No, nothing disagreeable...It's just not quite hitting the spot. It may be that I've tasted some very good RY4s since first connecting with RY4-D.
I suppose I could up the flavoring percentage a bit. I think mine is currently around 15%.
Before I do that, I thought I'd ask, What are your favorite tweaks and such for RY4 - Double?
I suppose I could up the flavoring percentage a bit. I think mine is currently around 15%.
Before I do that, I thought I'd ask, What are your favorite tweaks and such for RY4 - Double?
My favorite tweak for TFA RY4 Double is to use Hangsen or FlavourArt RY4 concentrate instead.
You might try two drops of Acetyl Pyrazine per 10ml. Some say it makes it taste like Tribeca. I put in four drops, and that was too much.
I also am looking forward to any reviews of the new FVFRY4 formulation. With 40+ ml of the original there will not be a re-order anytime soon.
If the new reviews declare it remarkably different, then I will put my original on a v e r y s l o w vaping routine to make it last.
Unless of course it is remarkably better, whatever that means, 'cause I don't know how it could be better.
MOV has opened up a local B&M shop close to home and I swapped out an old bottle of FVFRY4 for a new one. The store manager said they did not have to change their supplier, rather the supplier was able to remove diacytle from their flavorings. I have vaped maybe 1ml of the re-formulation in the past two days and I cannot personally tell any difference. The new is just as wonderful as the old. I also swapped out a bottle of Gambler for the new re-formulated version and it too is the same to me.
While in the store, I sampled several MOV flavors and found their straight synthetic tobacco "Outlaw" to be very good at 9mg of nicotine (9mg or 0 nic is all they have for sampling). This is their base synthetic tobacco flavoring for all the synthetic flavors. I bet I vaped a half ML of it while in the store before I bought a 30ml bottle in 18mg nic. Well, the added nicotine altered the flavor more than I thought it would - it is still very tasty but has a much more "harsh" TH. After a couple days of steeping, it has mellowed out some but still a little harsh. Might have to buy a 9mg nic bottle on my next visit.
I really am impressed with MOV's totally re-formulated synthetic tobaccos. I don't know if "Gambler" is considered an RY4 by our terms but it sure does strike me as a great Custom RY4. Right now, Gambler is getting more of my vape time than any other RY4.
I pulled out my (two month steeped) Mountain Oak Vapors' Gambler. It is an RY4, leaning to the dessert end of the custom scale. I found increasing the watts gives it a better blended flavor. The caramel stands out in the mix, and it is a rich, gooey caramel. There is a saltiness to Gambler. Also I note a good bit of hazelnut. The vanilla seems to be used as a blending agent, smoothing everything together.
What I don't like about Gambler is the weakness of the tobacco. Even at 12 watts, the tobacco takes a back seat to the dessert flavors. Down at 7.5 watts, I can't even taste the tobacco. I will stick with my grades from two months ago, B+ as an RY4, A as a dessert blend. A good overall flavor, but my tastes have merged over to the classic RY4s.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ly-big-ry4-roundup-long-495.html#post11418199
Last edited:
So, RY4 is supposed to be a mix of tobacco, caramel and vanilla.
The only RY4 I ever vaped was from Mt Baker ... It was pretty good, but all I tasted was tobacco and maple (as in Aunt Jemima Maple Syrup)
The only RY4 I ever vaped was from Mt Baker ... It was pretty good, but all I tasted was tobacco and maple (as in Aunt Jemima Maple Syrup)
- Status
Similar threads
