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Papa_Lazarou

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Btw this narda is excellent flavor but I have to close the airflow almost all the way off. A little too much air for me but a nice change from mtl.

Yep, the narda is one flavour snorting (maybe not so) little beast. You can get single air hole caps for it if you feel the need. I have a couple of juices that really shine in it with complexity I just can't get in any other atty.
 

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It's difficult to justify buying another indestructible device when the current ones are still working just fine.

Unless...

you decide that you will perhaps collect them. Then, it's not a 'ain't broke, don't fix it' arrangement. It's far more sinister!

Glad to help.

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Pretty sure i can buy a flashlight in 18 months along with batteries and wicking material and wire.

The choke hold has been and remains nicotine liquid, so stock up if you use it. i stopped using nic in 2015 though i maintain a healthy stash for HRH in a chest freezer. She never budged from her 18mg and she's stubborn.

The stupidity of regulations is worthy of an essay in itself, but i'll confine myself to just laughing and saying that they are unworkable, unenforceable and in a climate where individual states are legalising 'other things' totally contrary to the public health 'it's for the kids' agenda that seems to be being pursued.

We know it's a tax grab and nothing more, after all, nobody forces the ice-cream van to only sell tobacco or menthol ice-cream to me because only kids like flavours.

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Pretty sure i can buy a flashlight in 18 months along with batteries and wicking material and wire.

The choke hold has been and remains nicotine liquid, so stock up if you use it. i stopped using nic in 2015 though i maintain a healthy stash for HRH in a chest freezer. She never budged from her 18mg and she's stubborn.

The stupidity of regulations is worthy of an essay in itself, but i'll confine myself to just laughing and saying that they are unworkable, unenforceable and in a climate where individual states are legalising 'other things' totally contrary to the public health 'it's for the kids' agenda that seems to be being pursued.

We know it's a tax grab and nothing more, after all, nobody forces the ice-cream van to only sell tobacco or menthol ice-cream to me because only kids like flavours.

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Completely agree. Nicotine is the key in terms of control, whether by taxation or abolishment.

My country is currently in the throws of legislating vaping as separate from, yet similar to, smoking - right in the middle between the US and UK stances (as we are on many, many things). Currently, all vaping products are illegal, yet unpoliced. With this legislation they will be legal and taxed. I think we know which side of the bread is getting butter.

So, I predict that I will be able to buy high concentration nic base for a good while... at $500 per litre. Many paths to the same prepper end.

On the flavour front, I was engaging in a protracted on again, off again argument with a coworker about the "intended for kids" thing. We had this discussion while enjoying caramel mocha lattes, strawberry smoothies, and blueberry cheesecake on different occasions. This was apparently too subtle a point so I brought in some flavoured condoms one day. Oddly enough, we haven't talked about the flavour issue since.
 

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It's rude to speak with your mouth full.

My lot at work were worried about second-hand vape exposure just as they were having the place redecorated, glueing down carpets, painting everything that didn't move and so on. Which is why i can vape anywhere i like; when all you can smell for weeks is carpet glue, nobody much cares about a bit of apple cinnamon wafting by.

i don't know enough about Canada's stance on e-cigs to judge, but it would seem to me that something illegal that one turns a blind eye to is quite a clever way of preventing future legal action should one find out in 10 years that vaping is in fact deadly.
What does disappoint me is that nowhere is there a pragmatic assessment of tobacco v vaping where grown adults are not trying to score political or religious points over one another, where they undertake fair and unbiased research i.e. proper science and base policy on those results.

Disappointing but not surprising.

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There are plenty of studies that show vaping is better for you than smoking tobacco, indeed the Royal College of Physicians has gone as far as to say it's 95% safer than smoking.

But it is not better than not vaping.

Big tobacco is the only player with the cold cash and the political lobbying ability to influence the current political grandstanding. I've not seen much achieved by AEMSA or CASAA or any of the other industry and consumer pressure groups, because they don't have the financial muscle and the contacts.

i said years ago that it's not a big deal to me - i stopped smoking in 2012 using anything i could get my hands on and still use the same Reos i bought then (much abused i might add), but the point is this: people that want to stop smoking in future will not be able to if they cannot buy things at a reasonable price and a price that is much lower than cigarettes.
Let's face it, e-liquid - even with high nic content is pennies to make.

Grown adults ought to be allowed to take risks.

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Grown adults ought to be allowed to take risks.

Here Here!

The problem is that none of us (adults) can be trusted to keep the risk to adults, according to the nanny state. In a perverse twist on avoiding throwing the baby out with the bath water, they want to prohibit (or tax) water to reduce that risk to babies.
 

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Little help, over here please!

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