The Vmod XL 18650 Bottom Feeding Mod from Vapage.com

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Aaha! I think I'm getting a teensy little bit closer to Fernand's Top Secret Yummy Macaroon Recipe :). I'll wait for more crumbs to accidentally fall off the table....
By the way, what does the 't' stand for in t=o?
"Pretty much"? It rocketh, dude, it just rocks :facepalm:

Here is the same HH.357 at t = 0 and t = 5 wks
chain vaping 90% VG juice w/ 8 mg/ml nicotine in VG,
4.5% H2O, 0.5% Ethanol, and 5% flavorings in PG.

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It still rocketh but good!
 

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Glad you like it j I told you they where bad ...
Yeah, it is pretty bad .... What's this posting about a AVA in UFS? You going back to AVA? Just pulled mine out last night after about a week or two and it still hits pretty good. Still would rather have 2 HH.357's though as you pointed out, but there's something about it that makes stuff taste "cleaner".
 
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OK so what is the trick to use the Iken Vape I06's I just dont understand it could somebody post a pic. I guess I will order some of them if I understand what u have to do to get them to work. I cant see spending $22 on the HH .357 atty.

FWIW, I use the Bauway 1.5 306 atties on my Apex UltraMax and if you like the 306, it's a good choice. Wouldn't put it in the same class as a .357, but a more economical choice (i.e. for cheap .......s like me!)
 

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I think i used to have an i06 on my XL... heck it's been so long since I sent mine in for crack repair replacement... not to mention my bad memory, but I don't see why an i06 wouldn't work ... oh yeah, other than having to get a cover/drip tip that will fit the XL cone and collar... that must be it... ok, but that easy enough.
Get an i06 SS sleeve from Gratefulvaper and a 510 drip tip of your choice, or franken-rig the delrin i06 d/t ..
the i06, is second only to the HH357 in my book as far as attys go.... good stuff, and you can get them in just about any resistance you want. I'd go 1.5 or 1.8 for the XL.

Don't bother getting a "first" 357... imo you will be hooked.


OK so what is the trick to use the Iken Vape I06's I just dont understand it could somebody post a pic. I guess I will order some of them if I understand what u have to do to get them to work. I cant see spending $22 on the HH .357 atty.
 

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OK so what is the trick to use the Iken Vape I06's I just dont understand it could somebody post a pic. I guess I will order some of them if I understand what u have to do to get them to work. I cant see spending $22 on the HH .357 atty.

INTRO: If you're going to work at 3.7 volts, you pretty much need to work at low resistance. Most LR coils will use a short wire, to give you the 1.5-1.8 ohms. That means you get a couple of turns of wire on the wick. From the Genisis project we learned that an atomizer creates an aerosol sort of like two screens make a Moire pattern. In a conventional atty, the wick is one screen, the coil the other. If the coil only has a couple of loose turns, as many LR atties do, the droplet size will be big and uneven. If you can get an atomizer where the wire is lower resistance per inch, the coil has more turns, and you start to create a tighter mesh, so the droplets are finer and more consistent. The "Cisco coil" is made on that idea. The HH.357 is just one of several such atties. The IKV Platinum 510 atty is good, and the i06 too. I don't think they quite have the same taste as the HH.357 (it could be an artifact of how the HH.357 spits), but I'm pretty sure there are others that do. There are also cheaper Cisco Coil atties, and some other "drippin' atomizers". As long as they have a multi-turn coil, and not just a couple of turns, it's only a matter of trying 'em until you find one you like. There are alternatives to the HH.357.

Anyway, the i06 like the other IVK atty type I tried, has a peculiarity. It can only get air from the side pinholes on the connector. The XL is designed to feed liquid and air from the bottom well, or liquid through the side pinholes, but not air from the pinholes. So you have to remove the inner o-ring to use the IKV atties. What happens then is air can enter from above. It also makes some juice travel up the chimney, unfortunately. In practice it doesn't matter, I can't imagine any top seeping mattering unless your juice is really really thin. If you don't take the o-ring out (or it's not already so totally scrunched that it's as good as removed) you WILL get a very tight draw.

Then the last detail is that the 306 devices have no barrel, so you have to use a drip tip that acts like a barrel. Most of the driptips are too thick-walled to fit within the XL's chimney and still let air pass. So you have to use a piece of thin-walled plastic tubing like the beige "cover" they ship with, or there are special metal ones that are as thin as a barrel. Or, in a pinch, you can raise the drip tip high enough on the i06 so it doesn't block air passage. Then it tends to pull out very easily (oops, there goes another display case). But it's manageable if you're a resourceful and obstinate little vaper!

I decided to take a break from the HH.357 and popped on a Boge 2.0. I forgot about the wrapping. You have to rip off any black/white/whatever tape wrapping on the bottom 1/4" or you will be "tearing your o-ring a new one". Anyway, I still think the Boges rock. OK, not quite as much taste as a 357, but darned good fer a $1.25 carto! And no spittin'. If only they would STAY like that for more than a couple days! The Rejuvenators are (physically) a little long, but they last almost twice as long (in time). Whew, gotta be specific, it's from living in this legalistic post 9/11 world. Now for the people who "can't see spending $25 on an atty", do the arithmetic. If Fernie has Boges that each last 2.0 days but cost $1.25, how long does his .357 have to last before he "breaks even"? But after a day the Boge is already drawing a bit tighter, gotta watch that feed, and what REALLY has me PO'd is that my wife is WAY past week 2 of one of those not-Smok 1.5 ohm 4 ml EMDCCs and vaping away like a little train on her eGo battery. I keep asking her if she doesn't need a new one, and she says "no, it's still fine". And she doesn't even need me to fill it, she's taken to actually pulling out the scale, weighing it, and dripping the Macaroon in until it hits 14.5 grams. SOME people!
 
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I remeber reading some where in this thread that the cov dual coil attys didn't work in the xls. I just got some in the mail and they are working fine . I don't know if they changed the design of them or if I got a lucky one . Just thought I would give you guys a heads up

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