The Womper Woom, Womp it again Sam.
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Yup! Do as I say not as I do! Can't have it both ways!
LIS, I don't think it was about being OT, we can do that some, and he joins in the fun too once in awhile. Mine was more about being off color
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Yep off color fer sure. Making fun of a painful disability.
Welp off this thread fer me. Unwatching.
I guess one can not express their opinion. I in no way said anything out of line but expressed my opinion about a post that was made. Nice very nice!
Balance it? I didn't know I was supposed to do that. On my finger? On my nose? Where is it supposed to balance? Oh, and also, who uses a checkbook anymore?Then how do you balance your Chech book?
Since it is likely that many may not get it, that was a reference to a line from the Phantom of the Opera.Gee how appropriate.
Now that I have completely caught up, I can see that you are correct, it seems to fit well into this thread. Some of us are content with limited power, but some people prefer more power and will keep increasing their power, while reminding everyone "Look at all this power"
Eventually those mods will be pushing so much power that they will blow up the entire room, possibly even the entire house.
Those of us who still have a desire to be in control of our own money. Those who use automatic deductions have a possibility of losing everything because it is not in their control. Trust me, I know whereof I speak.
OK @Boden (and anyone else who cares to comment), I got all my other stuff done for the night (I know, it is A.M. as I write this). Here's the basic premise:
What does an absolute newbie know about how a personal vaporizer works? Someone said you have a battery that heats a coil that vaporizes the e-juice and you suck in that "steam" like you used to suck smoke... What goes on in the newbie's mind? I suspect he relates to the known heating element in his house: the kitchen range. You put a pan of water on the stove and turn the knob to high, the element glows red, then in a few minutes the water starts to boil and makes steam. Now you can turn the knob to off, but the water still boils for a minute or so, and you cannot put your hand on that element for several minutes or you'll get burned even though it has been turned off. That big element takes a while to cool off. So with that picture in mind, I sketched (crudely) a VW-mode. You will note that I did not put any numbers on the graph because every mod (6-8W EVOD to 200W mega-cloud-maker) will have different numbers. My durations might appear distorted too, but I am attempting to show there is some lag (or unknown timing) between one thing and the other. Yes, it is extremely over-simplified, but I am not sure just how far I should make it absolutely accurate without confusing the newbie mentality.
The temperature control version might not even be needed for a newbie, and is even less accurate than "reality," but here's my shot in the dark anyway:
In both cases, the "suck time" to get maximum vapor from your unit is the intersection of the blue and red lines, not necessarily the length of time you hold down the fire button. Now maybe this applies only to Tootle Puffers and these graphs would be wrong for Cloud Chuckers (very high Watts, very low resistance), but I have no way of measuring any of this at the moment.
Your comments will be very much appreciated.
What does an absolute newbie know about how a personal vaporizer works? Someone said you have a battery that heats a coil that vaporizes the e-juice and you suck in that "steam" like you used to suck smoke... What goes on in the newbie's mind? I suspect he relates to the known heating element in his house: the kitchen range. You put a pan of water on the stove and turn the knob to high, the element glows red, then in a few minutes the water starts to boil and makes steam. Now you can turn the knob to off, but the water still boils for a minute or so, and you cannot put your hand on that element for several minutes or you'll get burned even though it has been turned off. That big element takes a while to cool off. So with that picture in mind, I sketched (crudely) a VW-mode. You will note that I did not put any numbers on the graph because every mod (6-8W EVOD to 200W mega-cloud-maker) will have different numbers. My durations might appear distorted too, but I am attempting to show there is some lag (or unknown timing) between one thing and the other. Yes, it is extremely over-simplified, but I am not sure just how far I should make it absolutely accurate without confusing the newbie mentality.
The temperature control version might not even be needed for a newbie, and is even less accurate than "reality," but here's my shot in the dark anyway:
In both cases, the "suck time" to get maximum vapor from your unit is the intersection of the blue and red lines, not necessarily the length of time you hold down the fire button. Now maybe this applies only to Tootle Puffers and these graphs would be wrong for Cloud Chuckers (very high Watts, very low resistance), but I have no way of measuring any of this at the moment.
Your comments will be very much appreciated.
Once upon a time I seldom missed a post in the womper room and never missed a day here. I still go to vaping forums daily but seldom do yall see me in the womper room anymore. Give ya three guesses why and the first two dont count
Now I mostly hang out with the fugee's where a lot of the old womper room peeps are at. Even seen lannie there a time or two
Nice visual representation of hysteresis
And, imo, even more so for cloud chuckers. The greater mass of the generally used coils will stay hot longer, yes?
I think the graphic is more confusing than just saying 'Coil heating and cooling lags behind power button actions.'
That would work for me, Boden, but some folk are more visually oriented and may grok it better with a pic or two.
My only issue with those charts are how much higher power, temperature you're using above the blue line. Looks like dry hit territory to me. Otherwise makes sense.
Um, "not to scale"?
And, while I can't figure out a way to phrase it that would actually fit in the graph, the TC one could maybe have a footnote that you don't have to pulse the button, the mod does that for you. I can visualize a noob trying to figure out the necessary rhythm!
And, while I can't figure out a way to phrase it that would actually fit in the graph, the TC one could maybe have a footnote that you don't have to pulse the button, the mod does that for you. I can visualize a noob trying to figure out the necessary rhythm!
Um, "not to scale"?
And, while I can't figure out a way to phrase it that would actually fit in the graph, the TC one could maybe have a footnote that you don't have to pulse the button, the mod does that for you. I can visualize a noob trying to figure out the necessary rhythm!
Maybe explain it like ABS brakes. It does the pumping/pulsing for you (sometimes I forget and still try to pump the brake, tough to overcome old habits).
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