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10 charTitanium wires
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I think imeo should have released VIR sooner. I know it wasn't possible before but it would have put dna way behind. I have dna boards that I haven't assembled so I'm not saying it's not good. But it is very finicky and needs accurate builds to get accurate results from what I've read. I believe VIR will be usable by beginners and advanced users easily. Imeo we are all waiting
I think imeo should have released VIR sooner. I know it wasn't possible before but it would have put dna way behind. I have dna boards that I haven't assembled so I'm not saying it's not good. But it is very finicky and needs accurate builds to get accurate results from what I've read. I believe VIR will be usable by beginners and advanced users easily. Imeo we are all waiting
You are waiting in a wrong thread
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Just an update on the .50mm titanium wire. I attempted 9 wraps and that was just plain stupid, so I upped it to 12 wraps in my Ithaka with the new internals, running 7.4v in my JGG. I got a hold of some cotton to use with it instead of using silica wicks. The flavor, vapor production, and throat hit were absolutely amazing. The major problem that I was having was that it was literally cooking my liquid (loud popping sounds) and the Ithaka and the battery compartment were getting really hot really quickly after only 1-2 hits.
I would like to keep experimenting, but I'm pretty sure I burnt out at least 1 or 2 batteries (the ones I used for experimenting with the titanium wire will now only hold a charge for, maybe, 5 or 6 hits before they die). What's sad is they were my only AW IMRs.
That was short lived. I spent the next several hours trying to find a smaller guage titanium wire vendor here in the States, but to no avail. Looks like I'm stuck with Kanthal until Proteus and VIR ship to Rob. I would order from ESG, but it's one of those deals where when you have the money, it's not in stock, then when it's in stock you don't have the money.
Just putting it out there again, if anyone here in the States knows of a Titanium wire vendor, clue the rest of us in, especially if they have anything smaller than 24 awg.
I would like to keep experimenting, but I'm pretty sure I burnt out at least 1 or 2 batteries (the ones I used for experimenting with the titanium wire will now only hold a charge for, maybe, 5 or 6 hits before they die). What's sad is they were my only AW IMRs.
That was short lived. I spent the next several hours trying to find a smaller guage titanium wire vendor here in the States, but to no avail. Looks like I'm stuck with Kanthal until Proteus and VIR ship to Rob. I would order from ESG, but it's one of those deals where when you have the money, it's not in stock, then when it's in stock you don't have the money.
Just putting it out there again, if anyone here in the States knows of a Titanium wire vendor, clue the rest of us in, especially if they have anything smaller than 24 awg.
SS, I dont see a reason for your batteries to die because your setup is not bad at all. Maybe your batteries were ready to die?
What was the resistance of your coil?
Around what kind of axis you made your coil? 2mm? 2,5mm?, 3mm?
What was the resistance of your coil?
Around what kind of axis you made your coil? 2mm? 2,5mm?, 3mm?
My brother runs stacked in his JGG with Ithaka and it works great. If your battery is running out quickly and you hear it popping then run a higher resistance; I would suggest something approximately 2Ω. Stacked 18350 should run much longer than a single 18650 at the appropriate resistances.
I want to try it but I'm a bit worried about stacking them, I would prefer running them with VIR.
I want to try it but I'm a bit worried about stacking them, I would prefer running them with VIR.
Things are exactly as you said Seek. And dont fear series connection. Just keep batteries in pairs and you will be more than ok.
Putting batteries in series have the same danger as putting batteries in parallel. But I see that people dont talk about parallel connection's danger even if there are mods with parallel batteries.
Putting batteries in series have the same danger as putting batteries in parallel. But I see that people dont talk about parallel connection's danger even if there are mods with parallel batteries.
I'm not sure about the resistance or the size of the coil. I was using a nail to wrap the coil, originally, but when I tried to put it in the Ithaka, it didn''t fit (probably close to 5-6 mm). I tried a slightly smaller nail and had the same issue (probably 4-5 mm). The coil was too large to fit between the two posts. Then I just went for a finishing nail, which is pretty small (so I am assuming it is probably an internal diameter of 1.5mm).
I think I may have just answered my own question, but I am guessing that this diameter is much too small. The main problem is, with wire this thick, it's hard to make coils large enough to create the ohms needed while making them small enough to fit into Ithaka. Is it an issue if the coils touch each other? I've seen videos of some coil builds where there appears to be no separation between coil wraps.
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I dont think that with a so fat wick there is a problem by coils touching each other SS.
But you have to measure the resistance of your wire. That way we will understand more things
But you have to measure the resistance of your wire. That way we will understand more things
I tried it a few more coils. Even with 17 wraps (with a 2-3 mm center diameter) I was barely getting 1 ohm. The optimal resistance, at least for me, at 7.4v is between 2.5 and 2.8 ohms. I tried a new, different set of batteries to test it out. I'm pretty sure I killed them too. I've had them on the charger for several hours now and they haven't made it past 1 bar (the charger shows 3 bars when fully charged). I've tested them several times and they are sitting steady at 1.2v. I've had them for a while, so I probably just pushed them a little too hard. I'll forget the batteries for now (I might be able to scrape together 1 functional set).
I'll have to give up on the 0.50 mm Titanium wire. At least while running 7.4 volts. I'm still going to need to find a smaller gauge wire. I appreciate all of the attempted help though.
I'll have to give up on the 0.50 mm Titanium wire. At least while running 7.4 volts. I'm still going to need to find a smaller gauge wire. I appreciate all of the attempted help though.
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Also, the resistance for 7,4 volt depends on the width of the wire. If you put a fat wire, the resistance can be much lower than the usual 2,8 you use.
at 7,4 volt and 1 ohm resistance, the current is 7,4 ampere. Even one battery can handle this current. So what brand are these batteries?
at 7,4 volt and 1 ohm resistance, the current is 7,4 ampere. Even one battery can handle this current. So what brand are these batteries?
My 18650 batteries are older than dirt. They are about 5 years old with constant use. It helps that I only use one battery at a time plus I had 8 in rotation when I first got them. Now I am down to 6. Two have died.
My daily vape is a 0.6 ohm coil using 28g titanium. I can get about a days worth of vape with my old battery using the Mechanical Esterigon with a 0.6 ohm coil. At first I didn't like using fatter wire, because it took a long time to heat up. But then I realized that it was just the mod was using. I was using a cheap VV mod at the time. It wasn't until I rediscovered mechanical mods to realize that the fatter wires work well with them.
I plan on getting new batteries when VIR comes out. I don't know what batteries to get yet. I read that only nipple top batteries work with VIR. As far as Titanium goes, I still haven't heard if ESG titanium will work with VIR.
My daily vape is a 0.6 ohm coil using 28g titanium. I can get about a days worth of vape with my old battery using the Mechanical Esterigon with a 0.6 ohm coil. At first I didn't like using fatter wire, because it took a long time to heat up. But then I realized that it was just the mod was using. I was using a cheap VV mod at the time. It wasn't until I rediscovered mechanical mods to realize that the fatter wires work well with them.
I plan on getting new batteries when VIR comes out. I don't know what batteries to get yet. I read that only nipple top batteries work with VIR. As far as Titanium goes, I still haven't heard if ESG titanium will work with VIR.
I have 2 AWs. The rest are Efest. When I use them to test a titanium coil, it drains them down, running 7.4, in only a few minutes. I figure I have to be doing something wrong, creating a short somewhere.
Ok. For all of you folks here in the States looking for a Titanium dealer that has wire in a smaller gauge than 24, I just found one. He has 30 awg. Please don't buy it all up. Save some for me. I spent all of my money on replacing some dead batteries.
Imeo, I hope you don't mind me posting this here. If it is a problem, please just remove this post.
Here is the link:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/74698735/pure-titanium-wire-hypoallergenic-100
Imeo, I hope you don't mind me posting this here. If it is a problem, please just remove this post.
Here is the link:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/74698735/pure-titanium-wire-hypoallergenic-100
The link you posted was actually posted by someone else way earlier in this thread. It is important to note that anyone who purchases wire that is not specified for vaping does so at their own risk. The link posted is wire for jewelry making. Even though the description says grade 1 titanium wire, just be careful and make sure you know what you are buying.
This is why I haven't posted any links to titanium wire.
I buy ESG titanium wire because it was tested and considered safe for vaping. I have other sources in the U.S. for actual grade 1 titanium, which I will probably buy later to try out when I have VIR. I will test it myself and if it's good, then I will let others know.
I have done a good amount of research and only found a few suppliers selling titanium wire specified for vaping. One of them being ESG...but none of them being grade 1 titanium.
For those who may be concerned...I don't think GG will come out with VIR and then not provide or sell wire that is needed for VIR. That's my opinion, only time will tell.
No Worries SSG. I saw your original post before you edited down to two sentences.
The purpose of this forum is to help each other. I read about you having problems using .50mm titanium wire. I actually want to try some of this wire. Thats around 24 gauge wire.
I will get some grade 1 titanium .50mm wire and see how it turns out on a mech mod.
The purpose of this forum is to help each other. I read about you having problems using .50mm titanium wire. I actually want to try some of this wire. Thats around 24 gauge wire.
I will get some grade 1 titanium .50mm wire and see how it turns out on a mech mod.
Resistance will be very low. The alloy that ESG sells has higher resistivity, and a lower temperature coefficient.
What you said is true. But I like to experiment. It all depends on how many wraps to get acquired resistance. I was able to fit 21 wraps of 28g in Tilemahos.
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