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Told I had not really quit

Discussion in 'E-Cigarettes in Public' started by willbeein2003, Jul 30, 2010.

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  1. I got really upset yesterday when someone told me that I had not quit smoking because I vape. Their reasoning was that I still used nicotine. This person does not have a problem with the patch, the lozengers, or the gum; yet my vaping is not quitting. I explain that cigs have hundreds of other ingredients and that I can gradually lower the nicotine.

    Why is it okay to put on a patch of nicotine or chew it, but not vape it.:glare: I haven't had a cigarette in two weeks which means I haven't smoked in two weeks. So there.
  2. Xenite

    Xenite Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 8, 2010
    Only thing that matters is your perception. Who cares what someone else thinks, I know I don't.
  3. markfm

    markfm Aussie Pup Wrangler Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    If you aren't using burning tobacco, by definition you've quit smoking. You aren't sucking down smoke/ash. Vaping is an inhaler -- nicotine delivered through a mist, similar to using a nebulizer or, for that matter, an old fashioned vaporizer/humidifer when you have a cold.
  4. Warped3k

    Warped3k ECF Administrator
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    Apr 25, 2010
    North Carolina, US
    There will *always* be those that consider anything that resembles actually smoking as something that is awful. Vaping might not be 100% safe, as it still contains nicotine (nicotine that is in the patch, gum, etc.), but it is a much much safer alternative to smoking analogs.

    Also, its more like *thousands* of other chemicals in cigarettes, including rat poison.

    Please don't let someone else's opinion shy you away from something that has helped you for the past 2 weeks and many more ahead. Gratz on that! :)
  5. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    Quitting smoking in favor of vaping IS quitting smoking. It's no different than quitting coffee and still eating chocolate. The chocolate is a source of caffeine that is actually good for you and has flavonoids that help keep your arteries clear. Yet, there are people who will pick on you for being a chocoholic.

    Too many of us have experienced the benefits of switching to an alternate source for nicotine for someone to tell us it's bad for us. Our lungs are clearer, we don't smell like an ashtray, and our sense of smell has returned. Tell those people to find someone else to pick on!
  6. guitarman023

    guitarman023 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 30, 2009
    Marietta, Ohio
    I think vaping is much safer than the patch, especially after I used the patch and had to go to the hospital when one failed and released all the nicotine at once! Extreme example, but nonetheless. What vaping does for me, is when I had one of those MAJOR cravings, I just picked up the e-cig and puffed on it until it went away. I haven't smoked an analog since last year, and I've never felt better! I took up running again, and have been doing half marathons this year. Forget what anybody else says, keep at it, it's worth it.
  7. Shortstuff116

    Shortstuff116 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 2, 2009
    Bellingham, MA
    It probably won't be the last time you'll hear those types of comments. I've heard that one more than a few times and from some surprising sources who I thought would be happy for me and support me, but instead decided to chastise me instead. And the interesting part is that the only ones who have not been very supportive are those who either used to smoke or still do. Every single person who never smoked has been very supportive and very happy for me.

    There are many smokers who are just plain jealous. You were able to quit smoking and they haven't. A lot of people who talk down to some and talk about you behind your back are trying to make themselves "look" better than you. And then there are those who feel that smoking is all about the nicotine and believe (really believe) that nicotine is what is the most dangerous chemical in cigarettes. Of course we all know that yes, nicotine is not a "good" drug, but it isn't much different than caffeine and is not cancer-causing.

    In 5 more days it will be 9 months without a single cigarette for me after 36+ years of 2 packs a day and I feel damn proud of myself. I don't care one single bit what anyone else thinks about vaping, all that matters is how I feel about me.

    Bottom line is don't even think twice about what someone else may say about you vaping. What they think does not matter. There are much more important things in life that you should be concerned with. Be happy with yourself and know that at least you have more than enough support right here at ECF. Forget about negative comments and more importantly, forget about the people who make them.

  8. whiskey

    whiskey Moved On

    Jan 13, 2010
    The DH tells me that all the time...I tell him to pound salt...
  9. muttSRT

    muttSRT Supplier Associate ECF Veteran

    I said it before on a different thread, but will say it again. Are you a "traditional" smoker? NO, but I still feel we are ALL smokers still. As long as we use a device to heat nicotine to inhale, we are smoking. You guys can try to make it all pretty like, but the fact is, we are still smokers.

    Ask yourself a question, if tommorow, you woke up, ALL of your juice was gone, no way to get more, all of your PV's gone....would you go to the store a buy a pack of smokes? This question has been asked before, and most said yes, they would go buy a pack of cigarettes. So we really havent beat the smoking thing yet, we have just found a new way to do it.

    Now as far as the patch, gum and pills, I also feel as long as you use them, you are a smoker. Same question, if ya ran out of pills,patches or gum, would you buy a pack of smokes? More than likely, the answer is yes, or you wouldnrt need those items.

    Do I think its safer? dont know, but I feel better. Is it cheaper? Not yet, at least for me. Am I still a smoker? absolutely.

    I guess I think in black/white and most others think in gray. The gray way of thinking is, well we arent lighting up a traditional cigarette, so we must be ex-smokers. In a black and white world, we still use an electronic device to inhale/exhale, so we are smoking, just a new fancy and hopefully safer way. The "second hand smoke" has almost been removed, so thats better for others around us. The stink of burning a cigarette, has been replaced with sweet candy and bakery smells, so thats also good. But fact is, we still smoke.

    Let the flaming begin.
  10. whiskey

    whiskey Moved On

    Jan 13, 2010
    I like to hear both sides of things Mutt, good job!! I am one of those who if was left without my PV & supplies though, would not go buy a pack of go back now would be futile. I have quit many Vices in my time completely..this would be the same... I am in a small minority that makes me one of few I suppose..
  11. SeriousLevity

    SeriousLevity Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 25, 2009
    Omaha NE
    I got really upset yesterday when someone told me that I had not quit smoking because I vape.

    TRY not to get REALLY upset. Some people just like to argue. I believe it was P.T. Barnum who said "Never smarten up a CHUMP"!!!
  12. muttSRT

    muttSRT Supplier Associate ECF Veteran

    I wish I could say I would never buy another pack of cigarettes. I havent touched one in over 100 days, but I havent put the PV down either. If I were to lose all my supplies today, I have a feeling I would be smoking by tonight. I guess as long as I feel that way, I will always consider myself a smoker. I guess its like being an alcoholic, you never stop being an alcoholic, you're just an alcoholic thats been sober for xx number of days. So I guess, I'm a smoker who has been cigarette free, for 100+ days. We really need to pass out chips.:D
  13. whiskey

    whiskey Moved On

    Jan 13, 2010
    It was how I gave up alcohol too Mutt (9 years sober)...And to tell you the truth, the cigs had a bigger grip on me, its like giving up 1 addiction for another , but as time goes by,,,the grip finally loosens on you...Willpower is a very hard thing to master....
  14. Sandi Penn

    Sandi Penn Registered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jul 23, 2010
    las vegas NV USA
    I believe that Vaping is WAYYY batter for you, and like you said.. you can lower the nic as you go along. If your not smoking analog.. YOU QUIT. way to go. keep it up
  15. SheerLuckHolmes

    SheerLuckHolmes Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 28, 2009
    Tempe, Az
    The hell with chips... pass out bottles of juice!:D

    For me it has always been, mind your own business. This is my life and I am here to enjoy it to the hilt! My pleasures are mine and different from yours.. SO WHAT!!!! Go bath yourself in perfume. Eat porkrhines. Drive a X-bike off a cliff. Have sex! Do what you enjoy, life is toooooo short.
  16. markfm

    markfm Aussie Pup Wrangler Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I'll stick with I'm not a smoker, but respect anyone's right to call themselves one. I am a nicotine fiend, similar to my predilection for coffee. Yuppers, I like my uppers :)
  17. bassthumper

    bassthumper Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 4, 2010
    Speak for yourself, mutt
    I vape, I don't smoke. If there's smoke coming outta YOUR PV, you oughtta have it fixed or looked at...:)
    and I would NEVER go buy a pack of cigs even if it was the last nicotine on earth.
    I'm a vaper and an EX SMOKER and plan on keeping it that way
  18. mini_art

    mini_art Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2010
    Florida USA
    Actually I dont think I would buy a pack of cigs at this point. I've come too far now to go back. The thought of it makes me gag.
    I am finding I dont get up in the morning and grab my pv right away, that is amazing for me , especially since I havent tried to not do that.
  19. DemonCowboy

    DemonCowboy Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 18, 2010
    Florida, US
    i'll say that i'm not a smoker as well. Mutt, I respect and thank you for posting your opinion but i disagree, If you think you're still a smoker, try putting down u'r PV for a pack of smokes, i'm fairly certain you'll MUCH rather have your PV and put the cigs down for it. We may be Nicoholics because if an alcoholic can't get alcohol they'll resort to mouthwash and nyquil. now for us, cigs are mouthwash and nyquil. that if we had no other alternative, we would go back, but I would, given the choice now rather vape. This is coming from someone who didn't intend to quit smoking but instead intended to just use a PV where smoking was prohibited but wound up quitting anyway.

    if you're not using tobacco flavors anymore just try lighting up - it's awful.

    so given that i'd rather not have a cigarette if i have a choice i'll say i'm a non-smoker
    but i will admit completely and totally that I'm a nicotine addict and choose to stay one (better anti-depressant (w/ a few other things) and w/ fewer side effects than anything BP has on the market)
  20. guitarman023

    guitarman023 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 30, 2009
    Marietta, Ohio
    Hi mutt! My name is Brian and I have been tobacco free for over 1 year. lol

    But yeah, I'm slowly weening myself down off the nicotine, so that hopefully I'm at 0 nic by the time they ban them.
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