Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

DavidOck

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My wife and I have 18 of 'em. A mix of Svoe's, clones, full size, and nano. And sometimes I wonder if we have enough. :cool:

Er, 27... mostly EHKFLV2+, some V1, some 3.1, a few built from various FT parts.... but all full size. And a few V4s. (Various other tanks as well, but the KF is the one I keep using!)

Yeah, 18 for the both of you, not enough :facepalm:
 

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Product XXX is AMAZINGLY light, can't even feel it in my hand. But I wasn't expecting it to be so transparent. I set it down the other day and haven't been able to find it since.

Heh. That crossed my mind but I don't want to piss anyone off until I get my vapemail in my hands.
 

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If those are your only tanks, you definitely need more, IMO

Of the Kayfun family of styles we have about 45 altogether. Then about 25 other brands/styles. And then for the real fall back there's a whole bunch of Genny style RBAs.
 

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As long as everyone knows its a clone. Where is the harm?

Agree ... it's somewhat muddled. There can be dedicated clone threads to talk about 'em and recommend which ones to buy ... just no selling or swapping them here on ECF. ECF may not want the risk of being 'sued' / 'taken to court' over selling counterfiet items. But this is ECF and by being here we agree to abide by their rules and regs, so it is what it is.
 

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Agree ... it's somewhat muddled. There can be dedicated clone threads to talk about 'em and recommend which ones to buy ... just no selling or swapping them here on ECF. ECF may not want the risk of being 'sued' / 'taken to court' over selling counterfiet items. But this is ECF and by being here we agree to abide by their rules and regs, so it is what it is.

Seems like it could be a complicated issue. It is one thing to discuss using clones. That's a hypothetical situation and we are just sharing ideas. If a buy/sell/swap sub forum were created then ECF would be facilitating commerce that some people think of as illegitimate. I can see why the site runners would want to avoid any grey areas.
 

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Counterfeits in the Classifieds - Not gonna happen.
4/11/14
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...stions-questions.272922/page-17#post-12818351
That defeats the purpose of the rule. We do not in any way want to promote or support thieving counterfeiters. It would really be no different if someone stole something from you and we created a sub for those members to sell stolen merchandise. That is what counterfeit merchandise is, stolen designs. Not to mention most are inferior and dangerous.
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https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...stions-questions.272922/page-20#post-14335827
I think you are missing the point. We do not want to support or condone counterfeits at all.


Classified Rules - Updated Often
  • Counterfeit products will not be allowed to be sold, bought or traded on ECF, no matter if the item is described as such or not (see definitions below). Items being sold should never be misrepresented, for example listing a counterfeit product as the authentic product. Members found knowingly misrepresenting a cloned device as authentic WILL lose their Verified Member status and may risk being banned from ECF. Ads found listing a counterfeit product will be closed and member advised of violation.
Unacceptable
Counterfeit
- Counterfeits will basically be an exact replica or a very similar copy of the original and not so much tied to the shape as it is more the markings. The shape would come into play if there are unique characteristics of the device shape. This can include grooves, cutouts, coloring, or trademarks in specific locations.

Acceptable
Can be similar in size, shape (unless shape is unique) and even design but will not contain the same markings or colors. As long as the device can be distinguished as different from the original entirely, it will be considered acceptable. The device should be absent of all characteristics contained in the original, to include grooves, cutouts, coloring, shape if unique, and/or trademarks.
 

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Counterfeits in the Classifieds - Not gonna happen.
4/11/14
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...stions-questions.272922/page-17#post-12818351

10/9/14
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...stions-questions.272922/page-20#post-14335827



Classified Rules - Updated Often
  • Counterfeit products will not be allowed to be sold, bought or traded on ECF, no matter if the item is described as such or not (see definitions below). Items being sold should never be misrepresented, for example listing a counterfeit product as the authentic product. Members found knowingly misrepresenting a cloned device as authentic WILL lose their Verified Member status and may risk being banned from ECF. Ads found listing a counterfeit product will be closed and member advised of violation.
Unacceptable
Counterfeit
- Counterfeits will basically be an exact replica or a very similar copy of the original and not so much tied to the shape as it is more the markings. The shape would come into play if there are unique characteristics of the device shape. This can include grooves, cutouts, coloring, or trademarks in specific locations.

Acceptable
Can be similar in size, shape (unless shape is unique) and even design but will not contain the same markings or colors. As long as the device can be distinguished as different from the original entirely, it will be considered acceptable. The device should be absent of all characteristics contained in the original, to include grooves, cutouts, coloring, shape if unique, and/or trademarks.

Yeah, I mean, how would you even describe a clone if you were trying to buy/sell/trade? You would pretty much say 'This is a XXXX clone' and then you are kind of using a characteristic of the original right off the bat: Its name.
 

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As long as everyone knows its a clone. Where is the harm?

Copyright infringement. They would be culpable if they allowed sales and could be sued by the authentic makers. Plus they find it ethically wrong.
 

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My wife and I have 18 of 'em. A mix of Svoe's, clones, full size, and nano. And sometimes I wonder if we have enough. :cool:

Er, 27... mostly EHKFLV2+, some V1, some 3.1, a few built from various FT parts.... but all full size. And a few V4s. (Various other tanks as well, but the KF is the one I keep using!)

Yeah, 18 for the both of you, not enough :facepalm:

Sigh...a mere 8 for me,3 - 3.1's and 5 - KF lites.

Gonna see if they have any more at my local B&M next time I go.
 

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Sigh...a mere 8 for me,3 - 3.1's and 5 - KF lites.

Gonna see if they have any more at my local B&M next time I go.

Do B&Ms carry a lot of RTAs and RBAs? It's been quite a while since I've been in a vaping store and when I was there, I didn't get know about the wonderful world of rebuilding!
 

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Do B&Ms carry a lot of RTAs and RBAs? It's been quite a while since I've been in a vaping store and when I was there, I didn't get know about the wonderful world of rebuilding!

The two close by to where I live do.
The B&M I frequent the most I've purchased my KF clones,Serpent Mini,Lemo v1,Kraken and Kanthal wire.They actually cater to all forms of vape. :)
 

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KFL spreadsheet inventory:
  • 6 full KFL (various versions, plus, plus v2, Russian 91%)
  • 13 bases
  • 25 chimeys (nano and full)
  • 14 Bell caps
  • 12 PC tank sections
  • 25 steam tuner (Kompact KF) caps
  • 20 Five Pawn tanks
  • 5 Replacement tanks
  • 6 Colored steam tuner cap
  • 6 Five pawns top caps
  • 10 Various top caps
  • Multi packages of spare parts
 

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