Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)
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About all that TC mode does that is different from wattage mode is in temperature control. You still set the wattage that you vape at. The TCR setting allows the mod to sense the coil wire's temperature correctly. If TCR is off the vape won't be accurate. The same for the wattage setting.
If both are right, TC mode will feel like vaping in power mode except the max temperature will be controlled to the set point you chose. The really good part is that with the right temp setting you will be out of the danger of a hot vape producing bad chemicals.
Is it difficult to find that sweet spot of temp and wattage setting?
I set up my Jac, and LavaBox 75M with TC just to fool around with it. Am I getting a better vape on these two mods than all my others? I don't think so, at least not significantly different.
Not really ... the wattage setting really only governs how fast the coil will come up to temperature. It's the temp setting that's controlling the vape. You could set anywhere from 20 to 30 watts then start your max temp around 380 and step it up 10 degree's at time looking for your sweet spot. Remember it's the temp setting that matters the most, not the watts setting.
I have had a TC mod for a very long time and just never messed with it. A few weeks ago I realized that I had a tank that can use TC coils and gave it a try. It was pretty nice. I like it. I still mainly just go low Wattage on a MTL but I'll see what happens with it.
I'm having a good time with it, seeing benefits. Not about to go all crazy and make sure every setup is running in TC but my Jac + Doggy are kinda married right now and they'll stay in TC. Just keep moving things around until you hit that sweet spot.
I have found that I like the 450-475 F range but my mod is old and that may not be accurate. If it turns out that I do like 450-475, what do you think would be a good Wattage for my mod? I have one coming in tomorrow that allows me to set it and I really don't know what I'll be shooting for.
What mod are you using? This is for Pico 75W. Most will be similar but with different access to the settings.
The manual might be necessary to set it up the first time. You have to get into TCR setup and set the value for the wire you use. Once the TCR is set, you set the wattage to your normal vape value, then set the temperature at a safe value. I think 470F or so is the point you want to stay below. I like 400F.
Once you've done the setup, you vape just like you always did in wattage mode. Finding the sweet spot is generally a change in the wattage or the temperature. At my 10W vape level, I set the temp to 400F and vape. I can't really tell the difference between wattage mode at 10 watts and TC mode at 10W and 400F temp.
Some mods set wattage automatically to match the temp selected. My Pico 75W doesn't. The instructions tell you to set wattage where you like it for TC mode. You can take it up or down to make it stay in the temp range you like. My Alien 200W doesn't go below 15W and it's too hot at that point, so I have to assume that it doesn't auto-adjust. There's a firmware upgrade on the Alien that might fix that.
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If it cuts off too often, setting wattage down and/or raising temp range will get it in the sweet spot range. If it's too cool, up the temperature. If it's still too cool up the wattage. You want wattage to be set where the vape will approach the max temp setting without faulting out and pulsing the coil too much.
Play with it until you like the vape.
I suppose you could set wattage so high that it will constantly overshoot temp and stay off for most of the vape. It depends on the temp rise time of the coil you use. It's a balance between wattage and temperature that you want to find to achieve the vape that suits you.
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I was going to try it on my new eVic Primo mini. My only reasoning is that the screen is more detailed than my pico and I think has more options.
It wasn't for me.(I thought it'd be all complicated and such).
It plain worked the first time I set it up.
I vape a real cool vape 9 watts @380f.
Funny thing this morning I wasn't paying attention and ended up vaping my Serpent Mini dry,no burnt hit,it just stopped producing vapour.I refilled and started up again.
You'll need the manual to find out how to set TCR for your coil wire (Kanthal doesn't work with TC). SS316, NiChrome, and Titanium are the major coil wires for TC. Some mods don't play well with NiChrome wire. So, SS316L (or Titanium) is a good bet for a vape that works. Titanium can't be dry burned (it turns ashy and weak, don't ask me how I know), so SS316L is a popular choice.
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I smoked my last tobacco cigarette on November 13th, 2011 at 8:00pm. That was 2,073 days ago (not that anyone’s counting).
The next day, I picked up a Blu Disposable at Walgreens, and that began my journey in vapeland.
A few months later, I got my very first variable voltage device. It was a Lavatube. It was great. I set the voltage, and the vape changed. There was a problem though. At a point, I was raising the voltage but the vape wasn’t changing. Huh????
I learned that it had an amp limit (“amp limit???”) , and that amp limit was kicking in, keeping my vape just short of where I wanted it to be.
So I ordered a Provari, v2.
Whoa!!!! NIRVANA!!!!!!!!! It listened to me. Just like my preference of manual shift cars, it did what I wanted, when I wanted.
The only small issue I had is that I had to adjust the voltage as my resistance changed. Not a big deal, and I still use the same technology today, via Provari v2.5s.
But VW came around, and I incorporated that too (as have many/most everyone by now). Perfection in that it maintained MY vape, MY way, exactly as I had determined what I needed to no longer smoke.
{Fast forward}
Now I’m watching people change their vape because a vendor told them they must. Basically, they’re setting back to my old Lavatube, and talking about “safe zones” and what-not.
Seriously? NO chance. I’m not changing my vape just because a vendor developed some technology that they’re trying to sell. Technology that, like the amp limit on my old Lavatube, decides that I don’t really want what I’m telling it, but instead it knows better than I.
If the world wants to see me in a Danger Zone, then call me f’n Maverick (or Goose, or whatever).
“I feel the need, the need for SPEED!”
Seriously - I’ve been sitting on my hands for months, and I’m going to explode if I don’t say this now. I’m watching people feeling guilty - about VAPING - and watching others literally shaming them into making them feel guilty.
I’m sorry, folks, but please - get a grip. We’re not smoking any more!
Just because some still very questionable tests showed SOMETHING (we’re not even sure exactly WHAT it means yet, just by the way), doesn’t mean I need to change my vape. Before I’d ever consider doing that, I’d need a LOT more information.
400 degrees, eh? Well, stick it. I’m not smoking, and I know exactly what I need to continue not smoking. NOT my mod, ME.
11 watts is what I want, and 11 watts is what I’ll get. Temperature be dayumed, and I’ll eat a burnt burger too, so there.
There’s a question, actually -
How much in carcinogens were consumed over the 4th of July weekend? Like it or not, that one weekend may (I said, “may!”) dwarf three years worth of vaping at 500 degrees, 600 degrees, or whatever.
I vape at 11 watts. I know this - I need this, and I don’t need anyone telling me that it’s wrong. I won’t judge you, and you shouldn’t judge me.
If you want to vape TC, please do! But if you don’t want to, don’t let anyone shame you into it. As @Katdarling says, “Pass the Kool-Aid?”
Hold mine, please (Kool-Aid). I’m not thirsting for it yet.
Soapbox done. I’m going back to sleep now. Keep it down, will ya’s?
>
Ps: I didn’t freak out at The Great Diacetyl Ruse either. Popcorn Lung, my fat
. Puh-LEASE (smh).
As Kat also once said, “How many of us went to the movies and ordered the GIANT sized buttered popcorn, and ate every last kernel? We should have been dead by the credits rolling!”
Exit, stage right.
The next day, I picked up a Blu Disposable at Walgreens, and that began my journey in vapeland.
A few months later, I got my very first variable voltage device. It was a Lavatube. It was great. I set the voltage, and the vape changed. There was a problem though. At a point, I was raising the voltage but the vape wasn’t changing. Huh????
I learned that it had an amp limit (“amp limit???”) , and that amp limit was kicking in, keeping my vape just short of where I wanted it to be.
So I ordered a Provari, v2.
Whoa!!!! NIRVANA!!!!!!!!! It listened to me. Just like my preference of manual shift cars, it did what I wanted, when I wanted.
The only small issue I had is that I had to adjust the voltage as my resistance changed. Not a big deal, and I still use the same technology today, via Provari v2.5s.
But VW came around, and I incorporated that too (as have many/most everyone by now). Perfection in that it maintained MY vape, MY way, exactly as I had determined what I needed to no longer smoke.
{Fast forward}
Now I’m watching people change their vape because a vendor told them they must. Basically, they’re setting back to my old Lavatube, and talking about “safe zones” and what-not.
Seriously? NO chance. I’m not changing my vape just because a vendor developed some technology that they’re trying to sell. Technology that, like the amp limit on my old Lavatube, decides that I don’t really want what I’m telling it, but instead it knows better than I.
If the world wants to see me in a Danger Zone, then call me f’n Maverick (or Goose, or whatever).
“I feel the need, the need for SPEED!”
Seriously - I’ve been sitting on my hands for months, and I’m going to explode if I don’t say this now. I’m watching people feeling guilty - about VAPING - and watching others literally shaming them into making them feel guilty.
I’m sorry, folks, but please - get a grip. We’re not smoking any more!
Just because some still very questionable tests showed SOMETHING (we’re not even sure exactly WHAT it means yet, just by the way), doesn’t mean I need to change my vape. Before I’d ever consider doing that, I’d need a LOT more information.
400 degrees, eh? Well, stick it. I’m not smoking, and I know exactly what I need to continue not smoking. NOT my mod, ME.
11 watts is what I want, and 11 watts is what I’ll get. Temperature be dayumed, and I’ll eat a burnt burger too, so there.
There’s a question, actually -
How much in carcinogens were consumed over the 4th of July weekend? Like it or not, that one weekend may (I said, “may!”) dwarf three years worth of vaping at 500 degrees, 600 degrees, or whatever.
I vape at 11 watts. I know this - I need this, and I don’t need anyone telling me that it’s wrong. I won’t judge you, and you shouldn’t judge me.
If you want to vape TC, please do! But if you don’t want to, don’t let anyone shame you into it. As @Katdarling says, “Pass the Kool-Aid?”
Hold mine, please (Kool-Aid). I’m not thirsting for it yet.
Soapbox done. I’m going back to sleep now. Keep it down, will ya’s?
>
Ps: I didn’t freak out at The Great Diacetyl Ruse either. Popcorn Lung, my fat
. Puh-LEASE (smh). As Kat also once said, “How many of us went to the movies and ordered the GIANT sized buttered popcorn, and ate every last kernel? We should have been dead by the credits rolling!”
Exit, stage right.
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