Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)
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Good morning,Burnie
Yup,Agreed! I have a pair in rotation that are still running strong,they were purchased December 5,2016.
I am not entirely sure. Apparently, the Nitcore charger I have may not fully charge all my batteries anyway, and that may be good for battery life? If they're older and not holding a complete charge, I'm not sure. I'd say that they are probably starting to degrade, but I'm not sure if that's to the point of danger yet. Hopefully a battery expert will chime in.... To me it sounds like they may be usable for a bit yet, but please don't quote me on that or take action on that, as I'm completely not sure.... Good luck.
Anna
Anna
I had a problem with batteries that no longer charged to 4.2. I only have one charger that will charge a good battery to 4.2 anyway, but I went thru mine and culled the batteries that only charged to 4.15 - 4.18, those I will be replacing. They could probably still be used, but decided to get rid of them anyway. Funny tho, that of all the batteries I have, it was most of my HG2's I decided to get rid of. I have other batteries the same age or older that are still going strong.
For a tootler? Probably not. If cloud chasing, with the higher amp needs, maybe.
You're only looking at 3/100ths of a volt. That small a variance can show up from dirty contacts (on the battery or the charger), or it may be from ageing.
I just go by actual use time. If a cell no longer runs the "usual" time, it's time for retirement. For me, and my vaping style, if it won't handle a full KF2L, it's time.
lets change that.
if a full charge can't handle 5 ml of juice.
my KK only holds 2.5 ml.
then there was one KF fan put a 34 mm bell cap on top of an M tank who extended the chimney and had a KF what held 9 mls.
if a full charge can't handle 5 ml of juice.
my KK only holds 2.5 ml.
then there was one KF fan put a 34 mm bell cap on top of an M tank who extended the chimney and had a KF what held 9 mls.
Yeah, I generally use "stock", a about 4 mls. 5 is as good a number as any
I generally pop in a fresh 18650 any time I fill/refill. If the tank is empty before the battery, the battery is still good enough for my use, at low current (amp). If the battery goes flat before the tank is empty, it's tagged for recycle.
I generally pop in a fresh 18650 any time I fill/refill. If the tank is empty before the battery, the battery is still good enough for my use, at low current (amp). If the battery goes flat before the tank is empty, it's tagged for recycle.
I'm waiting for the Xmas sales to restock, and I will be getting some Sammy 30Q's, they seem to be a good battery for me.
I said 5 because that is what the M tank holds. the stock KFL+ tank only holds 4.5 ml
Yeah, I generally use "stock", a about 4 mls. 5 is as good a number as any
I generally pop in a fresh 18650 any time I fill/refill. If the tank is empty before the battery, the battery is still good enough for my use, at low current (amp). If the battery goes flat before the tank is empty, it's tagged for recycle.
I use a puff counter to check. I run to many mods and tanks to remember when they were last charged in some of the mods.
I could always use a irreplaceable P3 to check the battery but is there a charger that will check battery condition.
Short of lab test gear to discharge under calibrated load, no, no real good way to test a battery. Although voltage drop after charging, and before use, can be an early indication. Measure voltage after charge, wait a few hours and measure again. Anything more than a few tenths of a volt isn't good.
I typically have around a dozen ready to vape, all different flavors, of course. As long as I put in a fresh cell with a full KF, I don't pay much attention to battery state. It will let me vape (at least) a full tank, or it's history
I typically have around a dozen ready to vape, all different flavors, of course. As long as I put in a fresh cell with a full KF, I don't pay much attention to battery state. It will let me vape (at least) a full tank, or it's history
All the cells we use have a designed lifespan that falls between 300 - 500 discharge cycles.
As cells age used or not they lose capacity, storing cells fully charged lessens lifespan, rate & depth of discharge plays a large part in lifespan, heat is the biggest factor.
Yup, fixin to hear about all the batteries folks have that are 4+ years old & still work 'fine'.
What started as a 20a CDR cell may be 16a after x amount of cycles, or, it could have very easily degraded into a 4a cell in the same time frame. Heat, rate & depth of discharge.
Trying to ring out every last cycle from a battery before it is recycled & replaced is IMO an unnecessary risk to take for the most important single item in vaping safely.
For your normal vaper, no, there really isn't a semi accurate way of determining battery health, and if you did have a way to accurately test under load it would further reduce cell life doing so.
As cells age used or not they lose capacity, storing cells fully charged lessens lifespan, rate & depth of discharge plays a large part in lifespan, heat is the biggest factor.
Yup, fixin to hear about all the batteries folks have that are 4+ years old & still work 'fine'.
What started as a 20a CDR cell may be 16a after x amount of cycles, or, it could have very easily degraded into a 4a cell in the same time frame. Heat, rate & depth of discharge.
Trying to ring out every last cycle from a battery before it is recycled & replaced is IMO an unnecessary risk to take for the most important single item in vaping safely.
For your normal vaper, no, there really isn't a semi accurate way of determining battery health, and if you did have a way to accurately test under load it would further reduce cell life doing so.
From what I read, the Hohm Base will do that. It has a "battery doctor " function as well. Maybe @Shawn Hoefer can chime in.
Yeah. The Hohm Base will refresh cells and even charge fully depleted cells. I got mine during the Black Friday sale, and it's already paid for itself by resurrecting about 8 cells destined for the recycle bin.
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Some folks are comfortable with taking more risk than others.
If a cell has been over discharged it is internally damaged, how damaged is impossible to know, having one vent or worse isn't predictable or fun.
Bad things can and do happen in less than a blink of an eye, Batteries are cheap.
---> Is it safe to use a charger's "recovery" feature to bring back an overdischarged battery? | E-Cigarette Forum
If a cell has been over discharged it is internally damaged, how damaged is impossible to know, having one vent or worse isn't predictable or fun.
Bad things can and do happen in less than a blink of an eye, Batteries are cheap.
---> Is it safe to use a charger's "recovery" feature to bring back an overdischarged battery? | E-Cigarette Forum
Those damn enablers. You know who you are.
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