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Mesa

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All this over a single atomizer? I'll paypal ya the $10 just so you will shut up about it :evil:

Brian

It's not about the money. The ecig will not work without it so I guess that makes it a bigger deal than "just" an atomizer.

Besides you seem to miss the point. If it was just an atomizer then why didn't they fix the situation? It's not like I can just go get one at the store.
 

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too be honest mesa ... I know nothing about your own personal case/experience ...

We send replacements daily, and its really not a big issue. If this was something that was not addressed from the get go, I certainly apologize, and assuming it was within our warranty period, it should have been taken care of.

If you need an atomizer, shoot Casey an email, letting her know I authorized to go ahead and shoot you a replacement although the order is quite old. You can reach casey at info@puresmoker.com
 

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Yeah it's absolutely hilarious OMGLMFAO!!$!@! Are you five? Which part is funny? Me spending money to get a product that won't work? Or the part where people act like smug children and give me **** for saying something about it?

I guess I fail to see the humor. :confused:

Nope, you pretty much got a load of crap flung at you because of this post:

Wow... I hate to have to be the a$$hole but damn...

You act like they got into this to help the "community"... They got into this to make a ton of cash. Nothing wrong with that but let's not call them saints just yet. Sure they risk a lot (in this case $100k) on their business venture, but they wouldn't risk it if it weren't worth the return. ;-)

Not to mention I gave them a chunk of my money and had a working product for all of about 2 days. Awesome!
If it had just been that you had a bad part, didn't get it resolved post, you would have gotten some instructions on how to contact them properly, and your situation would have been handled, and maybe your mind would have been changed, or at least you would have come out of this with a better feeling about your purchase. Instead, not only is your situation being handled properly, not only did people offer you sound advice on getting a good resolution to your problem, but you've now opened yourself up to shame and ridicule because of a flippant post. Steve's just in this for the money? You truly are the ignorant one here, and do not know what you speak of.

Your first post was the equivalent of a 5 year old laying in the aisle of Walmart, kicking and screaming, because Mommy won't buy you something. And quite frankly, you deserved to be spanked because of it.

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Yeah it's absolutely hilarious OMGLMFAO!!$!@! Are you five? Which part is funny? Me spending money to get a product that won't work? Or the part where people act like smug children and give me **** for saying something about it?

I guess I fail to see the humor. :confused:
No-I am not five but if I have a problem with a supplier--I contact THEM if I get no response I try again if still unresolved I might make 1 post about service but not go on and on about it especially if it is only an atomizer. I DO NOT go to their forum and continue to trash them and their 'satisfied" customers. That's why there are soooo many suppliers-if you don't like one you buy from others!!!

I found it funny cuz I was thinking the same thing-it would be worth the $10 not to have to hear it.BTW-have all 14 of your posts been on this thread?

You have made many mean comments-looks like you can dish it but can't take it.
 
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Yeah it's absolutely hilarious OMGLMFAO!!$!@! Are you five? Which part is funny? Me spending money to get a product that won't work? Or the part where people act like smug children and give me **** for saying something about it?

I guess I fail to see the humor. :confused:

Steve is a bigger man than me. I'd let my dog pooh in a bag and ship it to you with the attitude you have been showing here. All this over an atomizer? Why do you only have ne atomizer? Didnt you research the products and reviews before purchasing? If you did, then you would know to have a couple spares in case one dies on you.


No doubt, issues may fall between the cracks on occasion with Puresmoker. For such a small company with such a large following, the percentage of those issues seems to be minimal. When they do happen, It seems to me that Steve and company are more than willing to make it right.
 
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to be honest people on this forum have provided you with the information to contact steve and steve himself has offered to correct the issue for you.
Im truly sorry that you didnt have the experience you wanted with your purchase but as it is with any company its impossible to make everyone happy.
No matter what size company there is unfortunatly some issues fall thru the cracks and its never fun to be the person that has to deal with those issues rather your the customer or the supplier.
the one thing i can assure you of is that steve is a honest business man and he wants his company to succeed and he wants his customers to be happy.
Im hoping this works out for you
please let us know how it works out for you
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Nope, you pretty much got a load of crap flung at you because of this post: ----

If it had just been that you had a bad part, didn't get it resolved post, you would have gotten some instructions on how to contact them properly, and your situation would have been handled, and maybe your mind would have been changed, or at least you would have come out of this with a better feeling about your purchase.

Do any of you read before you post? :confused: First off my post didn't say anything that wasn't true. Sorry reality had to come running through your field of butterflies and bunnies.

Now is the part where hopefully you get it. I did get a bad part. I did contact them 'properly' more than once. My situation was not handled, my mind was not changed, and I still don't feel good about my purchase. That is the only reason I commented in the first place.

Instead, not only is your situation being handled properly, not only did people offer you sound advice on getting a good resolution to your problem, but you've now opened yourself up to shame and ridicule because of a flippant post. Steve's just in this for the money? You truly are the ignorant one here, and do not know what you speak of.

I noticed you begin this sentence with 'instead' .... There is no instead. My situation was not handled properly way before I even knew this forum existed. Sound advice? I'm pretty sure I got **** on from the second I posted. As far as opening myself up to shame and redicule... Are you serious? Where exactly would the shame come from? I had a bad experience and I mentioned it. I don't see how that fact is open for debate. The redicule, well I have no answer to that. I find some of you to be a little bit nuts actually.

Your first post was the equivalent of a 5 year old laying in the aisle of Walmart, kicking and screaming, because Mommy won't buy you something. And quite frankly, you deserved to be spanked because of it.

Ivisi

You may not agree with what I said in my first post, but that definately doesn't fit your description of a 5 year old kicking and screaming because mommy won't buy something. I pointed out that fact that this is a business for money not sainthood. I then pointed out that I had a bad experience. The fact that you even compare what I said to what you did shows that something is wrong in your head. Someone not happy because they didn't get a working product when that's what they paid for somehow equals someone ...... off about mommy not buying them something? I'm trying hard to not insult your intelligence (or lack thereof) but you're not making it easy.


For the record I'm sure Steve is cool as hell. As a matter of fact I have no issue with him. All my correspondence has been with a woman. He must have swollen purple hickies from all the ... kissing some of you do though. :D
 

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No-I am not five but if I have a problem with a supplier--I contact THEM if I get no response I try again if still unresolved I might make 1 post about service but not go on and on about it especially if it is only an atomizer. I DO NOT go to their forum and continue to trash them and their 'satisfied" customers. That's why there are soooo many suppliers-if you don't like one you buy from others!!!

I found it funny cuz I was thinking the same thing-it would be worth the $10 not to have to hear it.BTW-have all 14 of your posts been on this thread?

You have made many mean comments-looks like you can dish it but can't take it.

Again, I did contact THEM. More than once. If you look back you'll see that I didn't go "on and on" until I was attacked by your little clan. Every post since then has been reponses to you idiots... much like this post now.

BTW what's with this only an atomizer stuff? These don't work without one so pretend it's any other component if it will make you happier. It's like a $3000 guitar with no strings. Strings cost $5, amazing how quick the music stops on that $3K guitar if you take away those $5 strings. ;) Does that example help you understand better?

I get it. You guys have completely disregarded the fact that I didn't get a product that made it past the 2 day mark. It's apparent that you are biased and really have nothing to add. You say I dish it out but can't take it, but I have only made one comment that insulted someone, and to be honest not only was it a fair observation, but it was in response to an attack made on myself.

So we have 2 possibilities here.
A.) Some of you can't read that well.
B.) Some of you are stupid and I'm a meanie for pointing it out.

I'm going to go with a little of A and a lot of B. Don't flatter yourselves. I can take anything you can throw and so far I've only dished out the obvious. The hardest part about this thread has been trying to put myself in your shoes so maybe I could understand why some of you are even talking. I failed.
 

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Steve is a bigger man than me. I'd let my dog pooh in a bag and ship it to you with the attitude you have been showing here. All this over an atomizer?

Something must be in the water. Are you all stupid around here? How dare I defend myself or say anything negative about this company after my experience. Shame on me! I tell ya what. Let me work on your car for a minute. I will remove 1 $5 part. We'll see if you like the results. It shouldn't matter if it was an atomizer or a battery or... or... The end result is the same. It doesn't work at all without that little part.

Why do you only have ne atomizer? Didnt you research the products and reviews before purchasing? If you did, then you would know to have a couple spares in case one dies on you.

I wanted to try one out and see if I even liked it before dropping more money. I had already spent ~$140. Besides they had a warranty and I could always just buy another one if I did like it. At one point I even offered to buy a new one but there person that responded to me completely disregarded that part of my e-mail. She was like a friendly brick wall. Sounded really nice but didn't not respond directly to what I had said.

No doubt, issues may fall between the cracks on occasion with Puresmoker. For such a small company with such a large following, the percentage of those issues seems to be minimal. When they do happen, It seems to me that Steve and company are more than willing to make it right.

Well try not to attack the guy that managed to fall between the cracks then. It's really easy to be happy and throw rocks when all was good with you. I got my first offer of a replacement now after months of not having a working one. I appreciate the offer, but should i really be happy about that? We've all had a bad experience in a sale at some point so you know it's not a cool feeling.

However, it's very rare to have a bad experience and then have a group of people attack you for not being happy and saying something about it. Even if I had come in here cussing and throwing a fit what I got back was totally off. Someone is ...... because they feel they were screwed and you attack them and fan the flame? You're a classy bunch.
 

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And as for you!

to be honest people on this forum have provided you with the information to contact steve and steve himself has offered to correct the issue for you.
Im truly sorry that you didnt have the experience you wanted with your purchase but as it is with any company its impossible to make everyone happy.
No matter what size company there is unfortunatly some issues fall thru the cracks and its never fun to be the person that has to deal with those issues rather your the customer or the supplier.
the one thing i can assure you of is that steve is a honest business man and he wants his company to succeed and he wants his customers to be happy.
Im hoping this works out for you
please let us know how it works out for you
combovan

It's a shame your company around here isn't better. I was a bit snide on my way in here and I'll admit that. I understand companies make mistakes, we all do. I appreciate the words and thanks for not attacking. This thread could have been much different if there had been more people like you. :cool:
 

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Something must be in the water. Are you all stupid around here? How dare I defend myself or say anything negative about this company after my experience. Shame on me! I tell ya what. Let me work on your car for a minute. I will remove 1 $5 part. We'll see if you like the results. It shouldn't matter if it was an atomizer or a battery or... or... The end result is the same. It doesn't work at all without that little part.

How dare you start throwing stones in a thread it did not belong in. You very well could have started your own thread about it. Dont be an idiot. Its common sense. You did not "defend" yourself, in the first post, you posted something knowing it would create some buzz. Grow up.

I wanted to try one out and see if I even liked it before dropping more money. I had already spent ~$140. Besides they had a warranty and I could always just buy another one if I did like it. At one point I even offered to buy a new one but there person that responded to me completely disregarded that part of my e-mail. She was like a friendly brick wall. Sounded really nice but didn't not respond directly to what I had said.

Then do not complain about getting a defective one. Your fault for not having a spare so being unable to use it is a consequence of your own ignorance and neglect. PM me all the E-mails, I would love to see one where the main complaint is ignored.

Proof or it didnt happen.


Well try not to attack the guy that managed to fall between the cracks then. It's really easy to be happy and throw rocks when all was good with you. I got my first offer of a replacement now after months of not having a working one. I appreciate the offer, but should i really be happy about that? We've all had a bad experience in a sale at some point so you know it's not a cool feeling.

Ive had a defective(died within 2 days) part from puresmoker. I also had spares so it did not affect my usage. I will also wait for it to arrive and contacted the CORRECT email address and tossed a PM at first.

Im sure having an irrational, impatient, customer who chooses not to follow the advice of a thousand customers before him and wants to blame the company is not a "cool feeling" either.

However, it's very rare to have a bad experience and then have a group of people attack you for not being happy and saying something about it. Even if I had come in here cussing and throwing a fit what I got back was totally off. Someone is ...... because they feel they were screwed and you attack them and fan the flame? You're a classy bunch.

You should have started a new thread about it. This was not the place. You knew that. You did it anyways. You deserve any negativity you get.
Nothing about you posting your garbage in this thread was classy.


Enough of this jerk..Back to the Topic!

1) His ability to handle IDIOTS on a daily basis. :p

2) Customer service is top notch. You get personal service in many cases from the owner himself, even in times where he is the busiest.

3) Being able to see his shortcomings and adapt to them making him a better buisness person, and his company stronger.
 
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Do any of you read before you post? :confused: First off my post didn't say anything that wasn't true. Sorry reality had to come running through your field of butterflies and bunnies.

Now is the part where hopefully you get it. I did get a bad part. I did contact them 'properly' more than once. My situation was not handled, my mind was not changed, and I still don't feel good about my purchase. That is the only reason I commented in the first place.



I noticed you begin this sentence with 'instead' .... There is no instead. My situation was not handled properly way before I even knew this forum existed. Sound advice? I'm pretty sure I got **** on from the second I posted. As far as opening myself up to shame and redicule... Are you serious? Where exactly would the shame come from? I had a bad experience and I mentioned it. I don't see how that fact is open for debate. The redicule, well I have no answer to that. I find some of you to be a little bit nuts actually.



You may not agree with what I said in my first post, but that definately doesn't fit your description of a 5 year old kicking and screaming because mommy won't buy something. I pointed out that fact that this is a business for money not sainthood. I then pointed out that I had a bad experience. The fact that you even compare what I said to what you did shows that something is wrong in your head. Someone not happy because they didn't get a working product when that's what they paid for somehow equals someone ...... off about mommy not buying them something? I'm trying hard to not insult your intelligence (or lack thereof) but you're not making it easy.


For the record I'm sure Steve is cool as hell. As a matter of fact I have no issue with him. All my correspondence has been with a woman. He must have swollen purple hickies from all the ... kissing some of you do though. :D

Your first post in this thread did nothing but prove you have no clue as to what Steve did with this community before he went into business with Puresmoker.com. And that's where people had the issue.

I've seen your other posts in this forum. Your issue was overlooked, that much is true. Steve has even spoke up in this very thread and said that he would do right by you. And in all of those other posts, you weren't nearly as abrasive as you were starting out in this one. Your first post was 80% attack on Steve's motives, followed by an aside that you had something that didn't work.

Your post sounded like this. "I can't believe what I hearing. Whaaaa. He just wants your money, and could care less about anything else. Whaaaa. I had a bad part, and I'm right, and you're all wrong. Whaaaa." That's exactly how it read to me, and I'm sure a lot of other people, as well. You may not have had that intent, but that's how I heard it in my head when I read it.

No one ever stated that he didn't enjoy the benefit of making a little cash (no pun intended, Steve.) in his venture, but to completely dismiss everything else about the man out of pure ignorance is why everyone jumped all over you.

Like I said, if your first post had been simply that you had a bad experience (written exactly, or close to, like your other posts in other threads), then you wouldn't have been trounched on, and Steve would have made things right, seeing as this is a very popular thread at the moment. You had a bad experience, and anyone here would definitely want to see that you come out ahead on that. Steve has already stated, despite your first post, that he'd like to do right by you, so not only did you earn the ire of 'the fanboys', but you're still getting a favorable outcome to a long overdue problem. That is what my 'Instead' paragraph was referring to. Had your post not included a personal attack on an individual, no one would have had a problem with what you had to say.

A question for you, and this is a serious one, so don't take this as an attack. In one of the other threads, it was written that during the course of their move (which seems to have been underway about the time of your initial problem, which may explain some things, at least) that there were invalid email addresses in the puresmoker.com domain, and to either open a customer service ticket on their website or send an email to info@puresmoker.com. Did you happen to do either of those things? I only bring this up because, depending on your answers, this may help Steve identify any other CS issues he can look at resolving so scenarios like yours don't occur again in the future.

I like Puresmoker as a supplier, and I like Steve as an individual. He has proven himself time and again to be honest, forthright, and very transparent in his business practice, as well as extremely helpful to everyone in the community regardless of if they purchase from him or not. Your experience is unfortunate, but it is also an anomoly.

Ivisi
 

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How dare you start throwing stones in a thread it did not belong in. You very well could have started your own thread about it. Dont be an idiot. Its common sense. You did not "defend" yourself, in the first post, you posted something knowing it would create some buzz. Grow up.

Wow, slightly melodramatic there? Who threw stones? I'm in here browsing and see a thread devoted to things you love about Puresmoker with someone leading the charge that you'd think was gushing over their favorite celebrity. I figure if we're gonna be talking about how great they are I'll interject why I don't align with this. The world is a rough place guy. If what I said affected you that much you've got a long tough road ahead of you. So now I'll return this as I believe it belongs to you. Grow up.

Then do not complain about getting a defective one. Your fault for not having a spare so being unable to use it is a consequence of your own ignorance and neglect. PM me all the E-mails, I would love to see one where the main complaint is ignored.

Proof or it didnt happen.

Your logic is bad. I should have a spare to make it through a trial period? I don't think so. If I buy a car tomorrow should I go ahead and get a spare car as well even though I have a warranty? Would that be bad planning on my part? By your logic I should have extras of everything. Perhaps they should include a disclaimer that lets you know it may die in a couple days if they are that unreliable. For what it's worth they were sold out of atomizers when mine died. I put in for a notification when they were back in stock which I never got and then one day after a while the whole site had changed and there was no mention of the model I had bought or it's atomizers or anything else. Only information on this prodigy that was coming out.

So I guess if you want to be that way I could say it's pretty crappy to sell me a product when they are discontinuing it and no longer offering anything that goes with it. That's right you idiot. From the time I received it there were no atomizers or anything else available to even buy from them. Then BAM buy the prodigy. How's that for neglect?

Ive had a defective(died within 2 days) part from puresmoker. I also had spares so it did not affect my usage. I will also wait for it to arrive and contacted the CORRECT email address and tossed a PM at first.

You should realy quit assuming things. I e-mailed them via the e-mail us part of the website and was assigned ticket numbers.

Im sure having an irrational, impatient, customer who chooses not to follow the advice of a thousand customers before him and wants to blame the company is not a "cool feeling" either.

Irrational. That is exactly the word I would use to describe a lot of the responses I've gotten here. I have had several excuses handed to me. It's from china, you should've bought spares etc. Does no one else see a problem with something dying in 2 days and then having no support? That is the issue at hand. Doesn't matter if I bought 1 or 1000. Even if I had a ton of spares if they screwed me on the 1 they still screwed me on the 1. It's not about an atomizer. It's about trusting someone, giving them my money, and then as far as I'm concerned being told my issue isn't important enough to right.

Impatient. I paid for this mid-april. How long do I have to wait before I'm officially not impatient? The best support I got was from a few forumites on here. With their help I was able to get some atomizers from china which took over 2 weeks to get here. I waited a long time before ever coming here, looked for atomizers for a while, waited while they came from china. All of this managed to happen before ever getting an offer for a replacement which came after all the BS in this thread.

Now again.. we are months into this and my support came from people that had nothing to gain and china. I went through the right channels. I waited patiently. I didn't even care about getting a free atomizer. I couldn't even buy one. Now tell me...am I really impatient? That's great that they've helped thousands before me. This does not change a single thing about MY experience.

You should have started a new thread about it. This was not the place. You knew that. You did it anyways. You deserve any negativity you get.
Nothing about you posting your garbage in this thread was classy.


Enough of this jerk..Back to the Topic!

1) His ability to handle IDIOTS on a daily basis. :p

2) Customer service is top notch. You get personal service in many cases from the owner himself, even in times where he is the busiest.

3) Being able to see his shortcomings and adapt to them making him a better buisness person, and his company stronger.

You are a grade A ..... buddy. I don't expect you to take anything from my post. Obviously rationalizing doesn't work, and there is no reason to explain my points if you are going to disregard them anyway. You are set in your ways and supporting details need not apply. Check.
 

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Your first post in this thread did nothing but prove you have no clue as to what Steve did with this community before he went into business with Puresmoker.com. And that's where people had the issue.

Ya know what? You're right I have no idea what he did. If he really is doing all of this for some other reason beyond being a capitalist then good on him. Again I don't know the guy, but I know where my situation ended up. As I said before I'm sure he's a cool guy and no I don't believe someone set out to piss me off. However, I've yet to meet the business man/entrepeneur that does it all for the people with his financial gain totally secondary. If this is the case I apologize for what I said.

I've seen your other posts in this forum. Your issue was overlooked, that much is true. Steve has even spoke up in this very thread and said that he would do right by you. And in all of those other posts, you weren't nearly as abrasive as you were starting out in this one. Your first post was 80% attack on Steve's motives, followed by an aside that you had something that didn't work.

He did make an offer to do right by me and I appreciate it. On the other hand though the whole situation still has me annoyed. You're write. I didn't start out abrasive. As you saw in my other posts I had already began searching for an answer myself as I didn't receive any worthwhile help when I tried to get it. That's why my posts weren't abrasive at all.

Try to see from my view though. I got no help and had to solve my own problem because of it and then I see a thread devoted to how great they are. Think of a situation where you were let down completely by someone or some company. Now think about seeing something singing their praises talking about how great they are and how much they care. That did hit a nerve with me.

Your post sounded like this. "I can't believe what I hearing. Whaaaa. He just wants your money, and could care less about anything else. Whaaaa. I had a bad part, and I'm right, and you're all wrong. Whaaaa." That's exactly how it read to me, and I'm sure a lot of other people, as well. You may not have had that intent, but that's how I heard it in my head when I read it.

If that's how it came across I apologize but that was not my intention. I had planned to leave it at the original post until I got those responses. For what it's worth given my situation, how would you have viewed the company? Unfortunately I can't judge based on your experiences when I've had my own that was nothing alike.

Somewhere in the world today someone was screwed over by someone else. The person that got screwed is not happy. Should they really care if he is nice to someone else? No. It doesn't change their experience at all although I'm glad to find out mine was a fluke and not just how things go. Seriously though, how am I supposed to know? If your girl cheats on you are you gonna say she's a loyal awesome girl because she's faithful to the new guy? :p

No one ever stated that he didn't enjoy the benefit of making a little cash (no pun intended, Steve.) in his venture, but to completely dismiss everything else about the man out of pure ignorance is why everyone jumped all over you.

I didn't dismiss anything out of ignorance. I can only judge what I see. Everyone's got a backstory. Do you know mine? Of course you don't. You are basing your words on what you see and assume from my posts that are right here right now. All I can do is the same.

Like I said, if your first post had been simply that you had a bad experience (written exactly, or close to, like your other posts in other threads), then you wouldn't have been trounched on, and Steve would have made things right, seeing as this is a very popular thread at the moment. You had a bad experience, and anyone here would definitely want to see that you come out ahead on that. Steve has already stated, despite your first post, that he'd like to do right by you, so not only did you earn the ire of 'the fanboys', but you're still getting a favorable outcome to a long overdue problem. That is what my 'Instead' paragraph was referring to. Had your post not included a personal attack on an individual, no one would have had a problem with what you had to say.

I never meant it as an attack but rather a chill out on the overbearing ... kissing. Even if he is a great guy I still found the first post pretty nauseating. Just like you heard the way my post came out in your head, I heard something from that one in mine. :D

A question for you, and this is a serious one, so don't take this as an attack. In one of the other threads, it was written that during the course of their move (which seems to have been underway about the time of your initial problem, which may explain some things, at least) that there were invalid email addresses in the puresmoker.com domain, and to either open a customer service ticket on their website or send an email to info@puresmoker.com. Did you happen to do either of those things? I only bring this up because, depending on your answers, this may help Steve identify any other CS issues he can look at resolving so scenarios like yours don't occur again in the future.

info@puresmoker is where I got all of my contact from. All of my contact also had ticket numbers. I got responses, just none that helped even though, as said before, they were friendly.

I like Puresmoker as a supplier, and I like Steve as an individual. He has proven himself time and again to be honest, forthright, and very transparent in his business practice, as well as extremely helpful to everyone in the community regardless of if they purchase from him or not. Your experience is unfortunate, but it is also an anomoly.

Ivisi[/quote]

Well I'll take that for what it's worth. I have no animosity towards him or even puresmoker honestly and if they really are as great as you say I would still buy from them. I understand that **** happens. I moved on and got over that before i even ended up here. I think I ended up here while searching for replacement atomizers if I'm not mistaken. However, the original poster still annoyed the **** out of me. Then the responses I got annoyed the **** out of me and here we are. I'm glad we're finally at the point where we can talk like adults though.

BTW completely off topic but I noticed the guitar in your avatar. Do you play? It's what I live for. That's why I need e-cigs so I can stop killing myself. :(

Here's my main rig. :evil:

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Mesa,

I'm glad we were able to get past the initial animosity. Everyone can only react to things as they see them, and it's very difficult to gauge someone else's POV from an Internet post. To Steve's chagrin, I don't buy exclusively from him. I do mix it up, so to speak, with several suppliers on these forums, and have yet to have a bad experience with any of them. But I do encourage you to give him another shot. He doesn't sell the same products that he did before, but the way things are looking, he may have a very solid product offering in his new line.

And to answer the off-topic, my Jem is my workhorse, and handles about 98% of anything I throw at it. I play 13 instruments, but guitar is my main instrument, and has been since I was 8. I used to do the whole 'professional musician' thing, but it really was just a step up from 'hobo', so I got a real job.

Surprisingly enough, since I stopped doing music for a living, I've accomplished more musically than I did when I was touring constantly. Topped a local radio show contest for best band, played to 3 sold out crowds at Hard Rock Live, played a huge festival in downtown Orlando to 11k people, and I'm currently scoring a movie. Of course, it still pays ****. :lol::lol::lol:

My rig is made for versatility. The Jem with the addition of a Roland GK pickup, and I run that through a Line 6 Vetta combo, a Roland VG-88, and an ART SGX2000 rack unit, plus a Morley Bad Horsey wah and a bunch of other little pedals mixed in here and there. All of it designed to eek out as many different sounds out of a small amount of equipment. Of course, like any musician, it's not enough, so I've turned to building my own instruments, too. In additions to a couple of guitars and a bass that I have for backups of my Jem, I've begun carving my own solidbodies in my woodshop, all based somewhat on my original Jem. None of them are near finished, though, as married life and a full time job doesn't give me the time I'd like to have to devote to it.

Ok, enough of a threadjack, if you feel like chatting me up some more on musical things, send me a PM or start a thread somewhere else and maybe we'll get more people in on it. Time to let these fine people molest Steve's ego some more. :D

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Wow, slightly melodramatic there? Who threw stones? I'm in here browsing and see a thread devoted to things you love about Puresmoker with someone leading the charge that you'd think was gushing over their favorite celebrity. I figure if we're gonna be talking about how great they are I'll interject why I don't align with this. The world is a rough place guy. If what I said affected you that much you've got a long tough road ahead of you. So now I'll return this as I believe it belongs to you. Grow up.



Your logic is bad. I should have a spare to make it through a trial period? I don't think so. If I buy a car tomorrow should I go ahead and get a spare car as well even though I have a warranty? Would that be bad planning on my part? By your logic I should have extras of everything. Perhaps they should include a disclaimer that lets you know it may die in a couple days if they are that unreliable. For what it's worth they were sold out of atomizers when mine died. I put in for a notification when they were back in stock which I never got and then one day after a while the whole site had changed and there was no mention of the model I had bought or it's atomizers or anything else. Only information on this prodigy that was coming out.

So I guess if you want to be that way I could say it's pretty crappy to sell me a product when they are discontinuing it and no longer offering anything that goes with it. That's right you idiot. From the time I received it there were no atomizers or anything else available to even buy from them. Then BAM buy the prodigy. How's that for neglect?



You should realy quit assuming things. I e-mailed them via the e-mail us part of the website and was assigned ticket numbers.



Irrational. That is exactly the word I would use to describe a lot of the responses I've gotten here. I have had several excuses handed to me. It's from china, you should've bought spares etc. Does no one else see a problem with something dying in 2 days and then having no support? That is the issue at hand. Doesn't matter if I bought 1 or 1000. Even if I had a ton of spares if they screwed me on the 1 they still screwed me on the 1. It's not about an atomizer. It's about trusting someone, giving them my money, and then as far as I'm concerned being told my issue isn't important enough to right.

Impatient. I paid for this mid-april. How long do I have to wait before I'm officially not impatient? The best support I got was from a few forumites on here. With their help I was able to get some atomizers from china which took over 2 weeks to get here. I waited a long time before ever coming here, looked for atomizers for a while, waited while they came from china. All of this managed to happen before ever getting an offer for a replacement which came after all the BS in this thread.

Now again.. we are months into this and my support came from people that had nothing to gain and china. I went through the right channels. I waited patiently. I didn't even care about getting a free atomizer. I couldn't even buy one. Now tell me...am I really impatient? That's great that they've helped thousands before me. This does not change a single thing about MY experience.



You are a grade A ..... buddy. I don't expect you to take anything from my post. Obviously rationalizing doesn't work, and there is no reason to explain my points if you are going to disregard them anyway. You are set in your ways and supporting details need not apply. Check.

Ok, Blah blah, Noone cares for your plight anymore. You are just going in circles crying about how hard of a life it is without a 10$ atomizer. I understand your job as a subway floor sweeper may not pay much...but im sure a couple hours of work can make up for it.

Yeah, I am a grade A ...... Wouldn't it be more moronic to call someone a ..... when you do not know them? You have no points. You just ramble and ramble and ramble about how bad you got screwed over. Get over it already. :D
 

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Ok, Blah blah, Noone cares for your plight anymore. You are just going in circles crying about how hard of a life it is without a 10$ atomizer. I understand your job as a subway floor sweeper may not pay much...but im sure a couple hours of work can make up for it.

Yeah, I am a grade A ...... Wouldn't it be more moronic to call someone a ..... when you do not know them? You have no points. You just ramble and ramble and ramble about how bad you got screwed over. Get over it already. :D

Can we agree you guys don't agree, and get on with the thread at hand?

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Can we agree you guys don't agree, and get on with the thread at hand?

Ivisi


I had already got on with it...hence posting the 3 things I love about Puresmoker a few posts down. :) How about you?

Enough of this jerk..Back to the Topic!

1) His ability to handle IDIOTS on a daily basis.

2) Customer service is top notch. You get personal service in many cases from the owner himself, even in times where he is the busiest.

3) Being able to see his shortcomings and adapt to them making him a better buisness person, and his company stronger.


Also, I believe you were involved in the derailement as well so you really need to unbunch your panties.
 
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