Totally Wicked goes underground

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KeepItSimple

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Keep it Simple>>>I was there from the get go>>>>MMM you have been here for around 3 days..Not exactly much of an authority, but preaching like you are..

I suspect that comes from your skills, or none skills as the case maybe in your Professional life. If you can call practicing Law Professional.

You come on here Spouting off like you own the moral high ground.

A joke when you consider the Morality of most Lawyers sucks. You guys for a free will get a Child abuser free. Would you, off course not, not if you knew anyway, but if you suspected...Well i suspect you would.

Regarding a thread or poll on should i close TW usa, i was unaware one was being run. Not ego at all. By the way i deleted my threads then messaged SJ asking himto pull my sponsorship and end my adverts on here.

You did a good job catalysing me, thank you for that..So in essence Keep it Simple, i have you to thank for the crystalization of a decision...It will prove to be off great personal and Professional benefit to me...You take it easy Lawyer boy.

Go free some dead beats>>>For your blood money, i will carry creating a solid respectable business.

And god forbid the supplier who services you...They are in for a hell of a time. POOR bast..Ds.

Aah yes...good job Jason. This post tells it all about who you are. And here I thought you were actually a nice person.
 

pillbox38

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No Keep It Simple, the above posts says something about my character...It does,nt tell the whole story.

Ok, i see you have chosen to open a new thread attacking myself and my companies..Your perogative.

Most users on here know who i am.

For clarification see the link.

Smoke and mirrors - Channel 4 News


But who are you???

You arrive out of the Blue and like a heat seeking missile you zone in on me and my company. What have you posted about E.Cigs??? Bear in mind what platform your on.

Looks to me like nothing.

This in reality is not a debate about my customer service.

IMHO there is something a little more sinister going on.. I can only hazard a guess as to what that is...Disgruntled customer, your another supplier, who knows... I dont truly care that much.

But Keep it Simple...You know who i am, im not hiding behind a user name and tales of My proffession is.

Who are you keep it Simple??
 
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Letzin Hale

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Just to expand on Walrus's comment...
They (TW) are just covering their ... of any liability of someone does overdose while vaping TW juice...but of course we all know that limitations of liability are not worth the ink they're written in.

I think you will find that they and Intellicig were one step ahead of Trading Standards Officers by being the first to make their packaging CHIP Compliant. A number of other UK suppliers had to stop sales of carts and liquid until they got themselves organised with the correct packaging.
There is a distinct difference between what you refer to as 'overdose' and a lethal or dangerous dose of nicotine.
Do you know they were "just covering their ..." as a fact or is it just your opinion?
There are a number of members on here who are like parasitic maggots feeding on a decaying corpse and who have nothing positive to contribute, but such is the way.
Alan.
 

pillbox38

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If someone can cut and paste my above post into the thread it refers to i would appreciate it...

This is a most definte flaw in how the forum has been set up, suppliers can enter only certain debates...

In fact its best to not cut and paste it, and i will step out of this debate as its too close to the bone for me....My emotions get the better of me at times...:)

Dont want people thinking im not a robot....
 
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frogbmth

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Just an update. Pillbox and I have exchanged PMs and cleared the air. Once again I want to be clear that I have never had an issue with TW or TECC products, Jason and I clashed personalities some time ago, we got each other's backs up and it has taken a while for us to be civil to one another. It is now safe for us to be in the same room together without fear of staining the carpet with blood :D

Time to move on.

Andy
 

pillbox38

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And its good to have cleared the air Andy.. My hotheadedness can be my achilles heel, but at least people who know me realise that.

I appreciate your fairness and also your knowledge of the Ecig world, it feels much better to be friends than enemies.

I remember always to try and think of one of my favourite sayings from a great personal development mentor ( "Napoleon Hill" ) when things get ropey.

He advises that "Out of every adversity comes the seeds of an equal or greater opportunity" and how true that is today.

I have been given the opportunity to bury the hatchet with Andy and after sundays loonacy it made me sit back and realise that there is lots to be done still. The Titans stuck in Kentucky held by the FDA, i have now spoken with 4 officials there..

Our decision as a company and we have found a guy to work with who deals with drug registrations for small businesses is to get the Titan and the Wicked fluid FDA approved.

Two seperate elements, 1 .the drug delivery device 2.The drug.. A tall order but if we committ we will achieve.

So thank you Keep it simple, i mean that...I knew something good would happen..


Pillbox38 rides on:)

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pillbox38

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In case anyoneelse wants to take a look and see what they think...The more heads the better..

Maybe keep it Simple your advocacy skills might come in usefull here...

The Small Business Assistance website is attached with the section on new drug development and review process. Small Business Assistance Attached also is a link to Guidances. The guidances will provide information on the clinical/medical requirements for new drug approval in addition to the basic information on the Small Business Assistance website. Guidance Page
 

Chrissie

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I take my hat off to frogbmth & Pillbox, well done both of you :thumbs:

I doubt you remember me Pillbox but I was one of your first customers last July. Through my eBay group & the ebay forums I've recommended you to so many people but have to admit, as you say, that your hotheadedness & unwilliness to back down can be your achilles heel. Sadly lost a couple of the members of the group (& also lost them to vaping) due to it. However you have just gone way back up in my estimation (Where you rightfully belong) it must have taken a lot of guts to post as you did at #148.

Really hope you don't take this the wrong way Pillbox, I thought long & hard whether to post or not on the issue. But just want to say, well said :)
 

pillbox38

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Chrissie, Hi...

Course i remember you, at least i hope i do..Your ebay name is Chrissy 2 cats..

Thanks for the message i appreciate it, just on your message EBAy was were it started for me. Then i knew most of my customers and handled everything myself. Its not possible to do that now.

Sorry if i upset some of the Group members, i thought we at the time were discussing the price discrepancy between TECCS kits and my unbranded ones on EBay.

Just my mother left selling on there now..The unbranded titans we had left in white i let her sell to clear at £39.99 a kit.. If anyones interested her user name is maves_cave

Pretty cheap really..Even me and Rusty started to communicate via EBay..

Rustys one of the biggest retailers of Super kits in scotland now...So we are all growing which is great..
 

Starlight

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I take my hat off to frogbmth & Pillbox, well done both of you :thumbs:
I'd like to give a "here here" to this too.

I too have had issues with TW, to do with an initial refusal to refund a clearly faulty item as well as with some liquids which eventually got pretty much sorted out, but which I didn't moan about on the forums. As a result, I was so annoyed that I wasn't going to order again but gave in the other day when I saw TW had a new Watermelon flavour I was dying to try ;), the first Watermelon in the UK to my knowledge (but I might be wrong). I also have trouble opening the bottles (made worse by the fact that I'm disabled with MS), as do a few others who aren't disabled, so I hope I manage to open the bottle when I receive it :oops:.

I've also seen Jason admit on his own TW forum that he can be prone to having a "short fuse", same as he's said above about his "hotheadedness". Whereas it's admirable to be able to admit to one's own shortcomings, it still doesn't, to my mind, excuse the attitude towards some customers. But, it does seem that this whole issue has perhaps hopefully led to some lessons and insights for all concerned.

As Chrissie also said, I hope Jason won't take this wrong way. I too had thought about posting earlier, and had even drafted a long post at the start of the topic, by which time so many other posts came in and I had other things to do, that I didn't post it. Probably just as well now.

Once again, well done Andy and Jason, and thank you both. I hope peace may be resumed and no more quibbles and attacks from any side! :)
 

pillbox38

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Starlight>>. Im continually learning lessons and the great thing now or at least its better is that i dont deal with warranty issues.. Im not the best man for the job. Best leaving it to the Ladies.

Its not that i have a bad temper i just get obsessive and this leads to me barking...Which i generally after regret...For sure i care about my customers and my poor attitude on here recently has made me become quite humble, i feel chagrinned at the minute..

Not bad, just a little reflective.

Next time you struggle with a bottle, ring rusty lug, he and his chopper will come to the rescue:)
 
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rustylug

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J.W >>>>Check rusty;s You tube vids out his first is a classic...Rusty post it here lets have a laugh:)


:pI will post mine if you post yours hahahaha .....I bet mine has still had more hit lol lol >>>> Running off to check Jason's youtube videos hee hee hee.
 

Chrissie

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That's made me grin Pillbox :D. LOl, my eBay id isn't Chrissy 2 cats but close, so thank you for remembering me :D

No the upset in the group wasn't anything to do with the price discrepancy. Not going to go into the details here as it is now all water under the bridge.

I guessed from the listings & location that maves_cave was connected to you but hadn't guessed it was your mum :)

Rusty, your video about taping up a couple of holes on the Super mini, to create a better vape, was one of the first links to videos I posted in my eBay group :)
 
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