A hot cup of something (or a decoy cup) works great. Take a puff and then act like your blowing the steam off the top. Works great in hospitals lol....
Tricks for stealth vaping
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That makes even less sense than your first post. Do you never speed? Even when the speed limit is way slower than is safe? Sometimes stupid people make stupid rules. I for one feel no desire to abide by an unjust rule that exists because people are ignorant or greedy. I think you have your priorities pretty backwards if you trust the ignorant and stupid, but hate the indignant and sneaky. What if they government banned nic juice? Would you go back to smoking analogs because those are legal? I bet you think pot is bad because it's illegal, not because of any data. I could keep on ranting how sheep like you are the biggest danger to us, but I have to go to work.
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The ultimate stealth vaporizer ... nobody will say a word
That may be in jest, but I got hold of one of my wife's spent Advair dispensers and am working on one of those "Ultimatos".
I wasn't kidding .. I found an expired one in the medicine cab and thought it would be perfect
Please take pics as you build yours, I don't wanta bust mine by forcing it open. Thinking you could make a really nice mod out of it!It looks like you could fit a 14500 (or 2) inside, along with a fully-recessed carto. You could even close it when not in use. Fantastic, think I'll do it !!!!!
Maybe even a built-in USB charger so you wouldn't have to tear it apart to charge.
Man, that would be nice
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See---here's where you're wrong. Really, people like you are gonna ruin it for the rest of us. And honestly, your claim that the rules are unjust hold little to no weight. Society has certain mores, and they exist because the rest of us have to live and tolerate other people in social situations. What may be acceptable for you, is not always acceptable for others, and showing a minimum of respect to those around you is certaintly understandable. Being a .... for the sake of being a .... is really the heart of ignorance and greed. Your views on speed limits and ......... are even more subjective. Sometimes people interpret their own views in ways that oppress people who don't agree. Sometimes hypocrisy breeds equal hypocrisy. Basically, what you're saying is, because I think these rules are stupid, they must be stupid. And in reality, it's a reflection of the argument that's being made against you. Calling people sheep is the rallying cry of people who have found a way to isolate themselves in order to relieve themselves of social pressures they are far to weak to handle. What you are really saying is, "I don't have the mental capacity to live in a society, and I find it far easier to deal with myself. That way, I don't have to process the fact that there are opinions out there that differ from my own." That, my friend . . . is the greatest danger to all of us.
I stealth vape to avoid problems and to be courteous. Examples: At work, there are no rules for or against vaping as far as I know. But if I had plumes of vapor coming out of my cubicle someone might mistake it for smoke, panic and call 911! It would also be difficult to explain what is actually going on to anyone seeing as most of the people that work at the same time I do don't speak English. I also stealth vape in the movies. I would find it very rude and distracting if someone in front of or around me was lighting an LED and blowing out clouds of vapor while I'm trying to watch a movie.
There are many reasons to stealth vape, not just to break rules. I don't like blanket statements (such as "you should never have to stealth vape"), there are always exceptions.
And I agree with you on your point that rules are there for a reason. If I were ever asked to not vape (depending on circumstances of course) I would be respectful and not do it.
Exhaling is a major part of the pleasure, I think. If you think about it & experiment, there are ways to exhale that can either maximise or minimise the visible vapour, without necessarily reducing your vaping pleasure (now I sound like some sort of ad!) But I have experiemented and it can make a huge difference to the visible vapour. I have pretty well perfected the clarinetist/oboeist exhale.
Look at how a clarinet or oboe player blows into their instrument, their top lip blows the air down over the bottom lip in a concentrated stream. As a vaper, this pushes the air down against your chin towards your chest. It seems to reduce the visibility of the vapour as it goes downwards and disperses against your chest.
Look at how a clarinet or oboe player blows into their instrument, their top lip blows the air down over the bottom lip in a concentrated stream. As a vaper, this pushes the air down against your chin towards your chest. It seems to reduce the visibility of the vapour as it goes downwards and disperses against your chest.
The shift I work now, I am allowed to vape at my desk. There are no other smokers on this shift, but there are 2 other vapers. The non-smoking co-workers have no problem with me vaping. In fact they have less work to do since I no longer take smoke breaks. However, next week I have to change shifts and I will be stealth vaping on that shift. There are 2 younger smokers on that shift who would make a stink if I would openly vape at my desk while they are forced to go outside to smoke, and they could ruin something good just because they want to demand the same "rights" that I have. Also, I will be working with a larger crew, so there is more of a chance of offending someone who may not understand vaping.
We do things that we may not enjoy or feel is necessary because to do otherwise could create problems. In my many years of life, I have found that people who demand that their rights be honored tend to be much more selfish than those who see the obligations that go with those rights. The ones who stand up for their obligations tend to be more selfless in the long run. I fear that today way too many people see only their rights and not the obligations that naturally go along with their rights.
Well said. I think the problem is that people sometimes believe they have more rights than they actually do. That's where your comments on obligations come into play. There's a balance between the two, and just because you think you have the right to do something, doesn't necessarily mean that it exists as a right.
I guess I just don't get the militant, in your face approach to vaping in public. IMO it totally denigrates the end goal. Changes in society are slow, and analogs have had their place for so long, that the negative connotations associated with them are bound to be placed on pv's and vaping. I really don't think a "hey, screw you, I'm gonna do what I want," attitude is gonna change that. And is vaping in indoor public places really the end goal? If it is for some people, that's fine, but there's better ways to go about it.
I guess I just don't get the militant, in your face approach to vaping in public. IMO it totally denigrates the end goal. Changes in society are slow, and analogs have had their place for so long, that the negative connotations associated with them are bound to be placed on pv's and vaping. I really don't think a "hey, screw you, I'm gonna do what I want," attitude is gonna change that. And is vaping in indoor public places really the end goal? If it is for some people, that's fine, but there's better ways to go about it.
this mindset of "I'll do it anywhere I want because it's not illegal' is getting old and is going to take an already paranoid and idiotic element in society and make them worse. You can't fight stupid rules and regulations by antagonizing those who have made them...
Places have rules. You don't like them? Don't go there. It's pretty damn simple. If your work place has rules against smoking and e-cigs and you get caught and fired because of it, that's your own fault, like it or not.
We don't seem to make it any easier to change peoples mindset by trying to make e-cigs look exactly like regular cigs.. It's not much different that wanting soda pop to be put in something that looks like a beer can and then complaining when a cop pulls you over because you look like you are drinking and driving.
I hate this militant approach that some have adopted... it makes them no better than the militants who have made life miserable for smokers in general and will only perpetuate the idiocy that abounds in society today.
Change is NOT going to be instant... especially if there is an emphases on making vaping indistinguishable from smoking by making the equipment and experience LOOK like smoking...
Red lighted LED on your e-cig when inhaling? What
idiot thought THAT would be a good idea or was going to do anything other than antagonize the anti-smoking jerks?
Places have rules. You don't like them? Don't go there. It's pretty damn simple. If your work place has rules against smoking and e-cigs and you get caught and fired because of it, that's your own fault, like it or not.
We don't seem to make it any easier to change peoples mindset by trying to make e-cigs look exactly like regular cigs.. It's not much different that wanting soda pop to be put in something that looks like a beer can and then complaining when a cop pulls you over because you look like you are drinking and driving.
I hate this militant approach that some have adopted... it makes them no better than the militants who have made life miserable for smokers in general and will only perpetuate the idiocy that abounds in society today.
Change is NOT going to be instant... especially if there is an emphases on making vaping indistinguishable from smoking by making the equipment and experience LOOK like smoking...
Red lighted LED on your e-cig when inhaling? What
idiot thought THAT would be a good idea or was going to do anything other than antagonize the anti-smoking jerks?
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What part of telling someone to mind your own business seems militant? If I'm at a business and they tell me Not to vape I'll ask them if they want me to leave. Its not a cigarette. Well they usually think about one second and say no don't leave I thought you were smoking. I've never had anyone press that issue. They need money. Do you think if everyone was walking around hiding it that they would notice someday and make a policy to include a ban on e-cig because they don't understand, and all they know is that it's a sneaky thing?
Idk bout you but I'm not gonna go around looking guilty.
Idk bout you but I'm not gonna go around looking guilty.
I am all for arguing that because of the nature of e-cigs the smoking bans should not apply to them. However we have to be considerate of how we do it too.
I find it easier to ask owners of small business and usually I get told it's fine. Big chains not so much, managers there are not there to think they are there to enforce rules and fill out paperwork and they don't have a memo about vaping yet(please not I have been a big chain GM before ).
If I am forced to be close to other people I keep tend to stealth just to keep the vape away from them. Safe or not if they don't do it there is no reason to hit them with clouds of it.
We really need show that we are not going to be trapping unwilling people in giant vapor clouds where we vape. We should not hide it as much as possible, but also respect the situations were we need to tone it down. There are some places that do have rules forged in ignorance and we should fight to get the rules changed.
However, I don't see anything wrong with being sneaky if you need to when you are trapped and can't just step outside. Yes it could backfire on us. I just understand that being trapped on a flight for what can be hours and being told you can't do something that you need to do because the people who made the rules were idiots(sorry unlike speeding there rules were not made with any motivation other band wagon jumping and blind fear) forcing your hand.
As for me on flights I just pop off to the bathroom mid flight. Nobody to see and no evidence left behind. If there is a meal I usually run and scream "What did you people do to me!" first. Nobody goes in that bathroom for hours after that.
I find it easier to ask owners of small business and usually I get told it's fine. Big chains not so much, managers there are not there to think they are there to enforce rules and fill out paperwork and they don't have a memo about vaping yet(please not I have been a big chain GM before ).
If I am forced to be close to other people I keep tend to stealth just to keep the vape away from them. Safe or not if they don't do it there is no reason to hit them with clouds of it.
We really need show that we are not going to be trapping unwilling people in giant vapor clouds where we vape. We should not hide it as much as possible, but also respect the situations were we need to tone it down. There are some places that do have rules forged in ignorance and we should fight to get the rules changed.
However, I don't see anything wrong with being sneaky if you need to when you are trapped and can't just step outside. Yes it could backfire on us. I just understand that being trapped on a flight for what can be hours and being told you can't do something that you need to do because the people who made the rules were idiots(sorry unlike speeding there rules were not made with any motivation other band wagon jumping and blind fear) forcing your hand.
As for me on flights I just pop off to the bathroom mid flight. Nobody to see and no evidence left behind. If there is a meal I usually run and scream "What did you people do to me!" first. Nobody goes in that bathroom for hours after that.
Here's my favorite PV for public places. A teeny weenie PV, 14500 batt, black aluminum flashlight mod, easily palmable. The main idea is to have something that doesn't look like an analog.
I think, though, that hiding it makes people think you have something to hide. Instead, use 100% PG with PGA (as vaporless as possible) and don't act like you've got something to hide, you don't. Vape something fruity so it doesn't give off a tobacco smell. And, if asked, it's my "personal vaporizing inhaler" to help you quit smoking. People are actually interested, not put-off like you might think.
Of course, I don't fly anymore so that's one prob I don't have to face. If, however, a store insists I cease using it, I will honor their wishes. I don't burn bras anymore either
I got an even smaller one I am gonna make, a 10440, for which I am gonna get a lanyard to hang it around my neck and replace my clearomizer with a black CE2 and delrin tip. No sense hiding anything, it actually promotes good health and people like to talk about it.
Very professional, I think.
I think, though, that hiding it makes people think you have something to hide. Instead, use 100% PG with PGA (as vaporless as possible) and don't act like you've got something to hide, you don't. Vape something fruity so it doesn't give off a tobacco smell. And, if asked, it's my "personal vaporizing inhaler" to help you quit smoking. People are actually interested, not put-off like you might think.
Of course, I don't fly anymore so that's one prob I don't have to face. If, however, a store insists I cease using it, I will honor their wishes. I don't burn bras anymore either
I got an even smaller one I am gonna make, a 10440, for which I am gonna get a lanyard to hang it around my neck and replace my clearomizer with a black CE2 and delrin tip. No sense hiding anything, it actually promotes good health and people like to talk about it.
Very professional, I think.
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