TSA Approved E-cigarettes Claims Are False

[TribbleTrouble]

I would expect such lies from njoy. "Twice the price and hassle, half the performance, and Liars to boot!"

 

[leaford]

Well, for my part, I never got any answer back when I asked for verifiable documents and a contact number at the agencies in question. So your non-answer is more than I got.

 

[Keltrey]

Well, for my part, I never got any answer back when I asked for verifiable documents and a contact number at the agencies in question. So your non-answer is more than I got.

They are good about the run around. I just like the yeah we have them, but we aren't going to show them to you. If I don't see them, then they don't exist. Of course I sent them 3 emails till I got a reply.

It's gonna bite them in the .... when it's all said and done.

 

[Kate]

This reminds me of Johnson Creek's claims to be FDA approved, they are not. They have registered for something to do with prevention of terrorism but nothing to do with liquid nicotine is FDA approved. There isn't even hygiene inspection of premises.

Deceptive claims from traders will see them out of business I suspect ... and will leave us high and dry in the process. All for a quick buck.

 

[cucurucho]

we are trying to accomplish to get on airplanes.

I took this to mean that they are trying to get their devices sold on airplanes?

 

[CalPilot89]

Keltrey. You stated that: "If they were already approved you would be on the airplanes." Not true..
Now, while I believe that they do not have approval from any of the agencies that they listed, the TSA, FAA, and Homeland Security could approve them, but the airlines themselves could make a company policy to ban them.
The TSA, FAA, and Homeland Security have control over the security checkpoints, and to some degree what is allowed on airplanes. Keep in mind that these agencies could make anything THEY want legal, but the airlines can make what ever THEY want prohibited on board their airplanes.

 

[Keltrey]

Keltrey. You stated that: "If they were already approved you would be on the airplanes." Not true..
Now, while I believe that they do not have approval from any of the agencies that they listed, the TSA, FAA, and Homeland Security could approve them, but the airlines themselves could make a company policy to ban them.
The TSA, FAA, and Homeland Security have control over the security checkpoints, and to some degree what is allowed on airplanes. Keep in mind that these agencies could make anything THEY want legal, but the airlines can make what ever THEY want prohibited on board their airplanes.

Ah, yes you are correct I forgot about that. Continental is one of those airlines I believe that has instructed their flight to not allow them. Thank you

 

[halopunker]

Hmph, how long do they take to respond to email...geeez

 

[Keltrey]

My email to them:

To whom it may concern,

I have seen claims of electronic cigarettes being approved for travel on aircraft by this agency.

I would like to inquire to whether these claims are true or not.

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,
(Edited)

Response:


From: TSA-ContactCenter@dhs.gov
To: (Edited)
Subject: Re: TSA Contact Us: Passenger and Traveler Information <<#280624-377674#>>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:51:41 -0500






[FONT=Helvetica, sans-serif,Arial]Thank you for your e-mail.

[FONT=Helvetica, sans-serif,Arial]The Transportation Security Administration's current security screening procedures require all carry-on luggage and accessible property be screened before passengers take them onboard an aircraft. Regardless of whether an item is on the prohibited or permitted items list, the Transportation Security Officers (TSO's) have discretion to prohibit an individual from carrying an item through the screening checkpoint or onboard an aircraft if the item poses a security threat. [/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica, sans-serif,Arial]Therefore, TSA security screening personnel make the final decision on whether to permit items into the sterile area of the airport. Should you need additional assistance, feel free to contact us at toll free 866-289-9673.[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica, sans-serif,Arial]Please visit our website at [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, sans-serif,Arial]www.tsa.gov[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, sans-serif,Arial] for additional information about TSA. We continue to add new information and encourage you to check the website frequently for updated information.[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica, sans-serif,Arial]We hope this information is helpful.[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica, sans-serif,Arial]TSA Contact Center[/FONT]


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[TropicalBob]

In other words, this person doesn't know what an e-cig is.

Bottom line: It may or may not be permissible. It depends.

 

[sixstring]

"TSA security screening personnel make the final decision on whether to permit items into the sterile area..."

What? people don't have germs AFTER they pass security? The response is apparently a canned one, evidently penned by an idiot...WTF?

 

[Keltrey]

In other words, this person doesn't know what an e-cig is.

Bottom line: It may or may not be permissible. It depends.

Exactly, from what I can tell. Either an agent at the checkpoint or a janitor at the office saying yeah you can take it on the plane does not constitute approval, which after dealing with this so far is what seems to have happened. If there was a document of approval from this agency then that should have been what they replied with.

As a side note it is not listed on the prohibited items list, or on any search on the TSA Website.

 

[ProStreet]

I was just talking to my wifes friend who is a head flight attendant for american airlines and she said there are more and more pilots that use them now. My wifes other friend is dating a pilot and he said the same thing when I asked him. They have become very popular among pilots.

 

[Keltrey]

I was just talking to my wifes friend who is a head flight attendant for american airlines and she said there are more and more pilots that use them now. My wifes other friend is dating a pilot and he said the same thing when I asked him. They have become very popular among pilots.

That's good to know and could be a step in the right direction!

 

[CalPilot89]

Right on ProStreet!

 

[Daniel@P.S.]

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Now we have a more info. But i haven't had a chance to call yet. Anyone else feel up to it?

 

[gep]

Oh dear! I hope all these inquiries don't mess up my trip to Texas next week. I'm taking my juices and e-cigs carry-on with a few extras for my sis. My luck they'll confiscate all of it.

 

[leaford]

Oh dear! I hope all these inquiries don't mess up my trip to Texas next week. I'm taking my juices and e-cigs carry-on with a few extras for my sis. My luck they'll confiscate all of it.

Gep, get a couple of these: Disposable Electronic Cigarettes, Vapor Guys LLC

They're lousy, but they'd get you through a flight, and at $9.99 you wouldn't worry about them being confiscated.

I'll have a review coming up soon.

 

[SpaceCadet]

I was just talking to my wifes friend who is a head flight attendant for american airlines and she said there are more and more pilots that use them now. My wifes other friend is dating a pilot and he said the same thing when I asked him. They have become very popular among pilots.

I can see why. Seems like every time I've landed back in the UK from a long haul flight, by the time I've got my bags and gone outside for a cig, the whole crew from the flight I was just on seem to be out there with me chuffin' away on their cigs desperately!

I think the whole point with TSA is that it may be that they will let these items through security as they do not fall within the list of prohibited items (sharp objects, liquid over 100ml etc), but that has absolutely no bearing on what you can and can't do aboard an aircraft. You can take cigs and a lighter through - doesn't mean you can spark up on the plane.

 

[devonschmoker]

I can see why. Seems like every time I've landed back in the UK from a long haul flight, by the time I've got my bags and gone outside for a cig, the whole crew from the flight I was just on seem to be out there with me chuffin' away on their cigs desperately!

I think the whole point with TSA is that it may be that they will let these items through security as they do not fall within the list of prohibited items (sharp objects, liquid over 100ml etc), but that has absolutely no bearing on what you can and can't do aboard an aircraft. You can take cigs and a lighter through - doesn't mean you can spark up on the plane.

All lighters are no longer allowed in the sterile area (Beyond the Checkpoint)

I am a former TSO (Transportation Security Officer they are no longer called “Agents”) myself. As far as the TSA is concerned all E-Cigs are accepted as carryon as long as you keep your fluid in a marked bottle in a quart sized zip-loc bag that is fine too. If there is any concern just take it out and put it in a bowl and send it through the X-Ray.
I even know of a few TSO’s that vape on breaks! Despite what some people think the Airlines have little to no bearing on what the TSA allows or disallows. The FAA does have a bearing on what TSA takes and they can also force the airlines to allow the use of E-cigs in flight (Doubtful). The Airlines DO have a say on who goes to the dreaded “Selected lane” for additional screening. So don’t piss off ANY of the airlines (At ticket counters especially as they talk to each other). I know that they are allowed at PDX but if any other airport tries to take your cig ask for a supervisor if you get nowhere with that ask for a floor manager. (That will make the supervisor’s hair stand up.) As for this company being “TSA Approved” it is a bogus claim. The only thing that TSA approves is carryon containers and luggage locks currently. Oh and one more word of advice, they aren’t kidding when they say “DO NOT PUT ANY USED OR UNUSED FILM IN YOUR CHECKED LUGGAGE” It WILL be destroyed or at best heavily hazed. (Below 800 is truly safe to go through the carryon X-Ray. However if it is above you can request a hand check.)

Well I hope that helps. -Devon