FDA TVECA post table of contents for Deeming Final Rule

[Oliver]

[EDIT] Despite previously having said they will post their leaked copy of the full deeming proposal online, TVECA are now saying they will not publish it.[/EDIT]

See here: http://tveca.com/tveca_docs/drp_redacted.pdf

Troublingly there's a new section on flavors, and intriguingly one on vape Stores.

I'm hearing from my sources that this is worse than the original.

 

[pennysmalls]

Dislike but thanks for posting this SmokeyJoe.

 

[Kent C]

Standon Glans ‏@ProfGlans 14h14 hours ago

@GregTHR Potential end of vaping as you know it, 11 RTs in 6hrs.Handchecks with boobs set social media on fire. Vapers their own worst enemy


https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic...4i/bad_news_and_i_was_having_such_a_good_day/

 

[FlamingoTutu]

SJ, thank you for posting that.

 

[Oliver]

Glantz tweeted Conley:

Standon Glans ‏@ProfGlans 14h14 hours ago

@GregTHR Potential end of vaping as you know it, 11 RTs in 6hrs.Handchecks with boobs set social media on fire. Vapers their own worst enemy


https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic...4i/bad_news_and_i_was_having_such_a_good_day/

That's "Glans", not Glantz

 

[Kent C]

That's "Glans", not Glantz

lol Thanks SJ... I'll edit :- ) got his pic as well - although I think his conclusion may be right...

 

[classwife]

Ugh.

 

[squee]

Standon Glans ‏@ProfGlans 14h14 hours ago

@GregTHR Potential end of vaping as you know it, 11 RTs in 6hrs.Handchecks with boobs set social media on fire. Vapers their own worst enemy

The worst part is, he's not wrong

 

[zoiDman]

See here: http://tveca.com/tveca_docs/drp_redacted.pdf

Troublingly there's a new section on flavors, and intriguingly one on Vape Stores.

I'm hearing from my sources that this is worse than the original.

It is Troubling. But I think Very Soon we will Know Exactly what we will be Fighting. So in a way, that is Good.

BTW - Great Banner at the Top on all the ECF Pages.

 

[Katya]

Not worried at all. I still have my blue foam and plenty of Lipton tea bags.

Paging Judge Leon...

Thanks for the banner, ECF!

 

[Kent C]

The worst part is, he's not wrong

On the possible deeming - yeah. On the 'vapers are their own worst enemies' - Nope.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

It is Troubling. But I think Very Soon we will Know Exactly what we will be Fighting. So in a way, that is Good.

BTW - Great Banner at the Top on all the ECF Pages.

Agreed, it will be nice to know exactly what we need to fight. Unfortunately, it looks like we'll need to fight just about everything related to vaping. Is great to see the CTAs back. Might be a shock to some of the newer members.

 

[Katya]

What's the status of the HR 2058 bill? Are they going to vote on it? Can FDA proceed without the vote?

 

[Kent C]

Can FDA proceed without the vote?

Yes

 

[Katya]

Yes

Oy........

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Looks like it's been hibernating in the House - Energy and Commerce Committee for 50% of its life?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2058

 

[Katya]

Looks like it's been hibernating in the House - Energy and Commerce Committee for 50% of its life?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2058

I know. I keep checking--nada. It's stuck.

It's so depressing. All that work and we've accomplished nothing. They are going to do what they intended to do from day one. All those hearings, community input, letters written, testimonials submitted, all for naught?

 

[painbowslash]

Damn, I really hope the call to action works. Imagine if 99.9% of your stuff wasn't here, and you had to fork out marked up prices for your gear even in 'murica.

 

[Oliver]

Everyone who's reading this thread - make sure you go to the casaa Call to Action

 

[sonicdsl]

See here: http://tveca.com/tveca_docs/drp_redacted.pdf

Troublingly there's a new section on flavors, and intriguingly one on Vape Stores.

I'm hearing from my sources that this is worse than the original.

Most disturbing.