TWO Years into Vapping AND.....

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ukeman

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Worry??? (discouraged?)
Been here almost a year... and from the start i was hooked, line and sinker.
I'm a number 2 ... too Cil... my wife is a number 1 too. haha

I absolutely "OCD" (according to her) love vaping.

To me vaping is "all the above"... i have all the best gear (which cost substantially less than my uke habits btw), read ECF for sometimes hours every day (at least check in a few times a day), vape easily 6ml a day (going through 1 1/2 to 2 18650 batts a day.
I think you're bang on, people fall into two distinct camps;
1/ I just want a hassle free alternative to smoking.
2/ I want something that I can tinker with, change flavours, make my own bits and pieces, be a bit geeky and that can be a hobby.
I'm number 2, my wife is number 1. This is perfect for me as I get double the hobby and can also try and make vaping as easy for her as possible. :)

Just because OP has 2 years may seem intimidating to some newbies (and vets too)... it shouldn't.
This is a new sport.
We all now have a front row seat in the evolution of a unique era... sit back and enjoy the ride.
 

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My Dad died of lung cancer twenty years ago. I quit for 6 months and craved smoking all of that time. I started again and justified it with "well he smoked a pipe so it probably wasn't the smoking".

But I still wanted to quit. Tried the patches, tried the gum, was afraid to try the drugs. They all helped me quit for a short time. Just because I was so determined. And it was that craving a cigarette that always won in the end. I would just get so angry that I would start again. So tired of the craving it would win again.

But a short time ago a friend came over who had tried vaping at a mutual friends house. He said it tasted good but what I picked up on was he didn't jones for a cigarette. That day I looked online for an electronic cigarette and placed my order.

But I was so enthused I couldn't wait for the mailman so I called around and found a local smokeshop that sales e-cigs. I went there and they actually let me try one with a clean condom over the mouthpiece. I knew at that moment it was close enough to smoking for me. And I am still NOT CRAVING cigarettes in any way.

I think that's what discouraged me about this thread. I was afraid after a year or two vaping would let me down like those other products. That the craving would rear it's ugly head again. But I don't think that will happen and I am happy as hell.

Thanks to all you fine folks.
 

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I think you're bang on, people fall into two distinct camps;

1/ I just want a hassle free alternative to smoking.
2/ I want something that I can tinker with, change flavours, make my own bits and pieces, be a bit geeky and that can be a hobby.

I'm number 2, my wife is number 1. This is perfect for me as I get double the hobby and can also try and make vaping as easy for her as possible. :)

For me, im both.

When im on the go i dont want to tinker with anything as i just want my fix.

But when im at home, i can tinker with whatever.

What i have been doing is trying to streamline my vaping equipment to the simplest form as much as i can. Im using a tube mod and dripping. I also want to decide what voltage i want to vape with (3.7v or 5v), as i dont want to keep switching between LR attys and what not. The 510-T attys, which im trying out right now, seem to simplify things a bit more as i dont have to keep constantly dripping and seems to be perfect for on the go. Its this kind of stuff that i want to see more of.
 

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Excellent testimonies and posts here. I also tried all the quit smoking products (several times) and each time found some justification in returning to smoking. Over the years, every time I returned to smoking, my breathing got worse and worse. When I was younger, I used to be able to smoke and jog. This year, my goal is to be able to walk 18 holes of golf. The effects of smoking seem to creep up on one over the years.
 

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I'm not going to knock the NRT products even the scary dangerous chantix as a good friend of mine stopped smoking using it.

I think, for me, I wanted to stop smoking and the easiest way for me was changing to vaping, but had this not been available I would have used the gum. (bizarrely I like the taste of the original gum, sort of hot and ashtray...ish :))

Previously I had stopped for three years, then a year, then 6 months, then a year and half all in a 10 year period so I was really ready.

I shall stop vaping eventually but what I do know is if I fall of the wagon it will be onto vaping and not cigarettes.

I'm very angry at the tobacco companies as they know they are peddling death, so for me to stop hits them were it hurts, in their pockets, plus also stops me paying our government a ludicrous amount of TAX, which is always pleasing.
 

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No - no suicidal thoughts, but a former colleague of mine said she "almost lost her mind", though I'm not sure if it meant she had those suicidal thoughts. On the other hand, another former colleague successfully quit using Chantix.

In February, the FDA posted a 'black label' on Chantrix due to the alarmingly amount of people with suicidal tendencies and suicides, period. No thanks Chantrix!

Zyban or Welbutrin is another prescription med used for smoking cessation that apparently doesn't cause as drastic of side effects as Chantrix but when Welbutrin is used as a MAOI or an anti-depressant, it's been shown to cause younger folk to have suicidal thoughts. Gee, learning is fun, isn't it?
 

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Here's a cheap analogy I used to recite to myself: I enjoy smoking, if I had a choice to be rich and live to 30 or be in miserable pain and live to 60, I'd choose the latter. Of course, that in itself was my justification or one of them to continue smoking, I was just enjoying myself and that was that.

To each their own! Respect and understanding!

I'm 30ish ;) and in constant intolerable pain to the point I've been on Fentanyl (it's a very powerful pain med in patch form usually reserved for cancer patients) for 3 years now and on a host of breakthrough meds for well over 10years now. Trust me when I say, I believe in "To each their own! Respect and understanding!" but trust me again when I say you would NOT want to take that as a life choice...EVER! NEVER EVER! Pain like this is not something you can forget about for a time and enjoy yourself. Trying to enjoy yourself/life means even more pain...which just makes life un-enjoyable!

I can see where the OP and others haven't been able/don't want to give up analogs completely. I'm just at two weeks in and I still crave analogs...but if I ever want to be able to enjoy my life and my child I have to do somethings that will help improve my life despite the pain...thank God I found PV's! It hasn't stopped the pain at all...but seeing my son so happy that I don't smoke anymore is enough for me to find ways to deal with the pain! IDK just my :2c:

oh and I have only read the 1st page so far so my :2c: may mean nothing at all?!
 

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@Cil - Yes, you're right. A study of depressed people of all ages would be monitored. One side using a placebo the other the drug and then they'd do psychological evaluations along with brain scans to determine how the drug affects the age sample, etc etc.

@Bert - While I agree that everyone should do as they please without being judged harshly, I also believe that we should be able to post what we want (as long as it doesn't insult or harm another member). That includes coming here and sharing his story. I don't believe that he posted this to incite irrational conversation, I think he just came to share. This is a place where we can come, smokers or vapors or both for conversation, support and advice. I believe he has every right to post what he did and I applaud his courage. It takes a pair to come out and be honest, I don't believe he's rubbing it in our face.
 

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I'm 30ish ;) and in constant intolerable pain to the point I've been on Fentanyl (it's a very powerful pain med in patch form usually reserved for cancer patients) for 3 years now and on a host of breakthrough meds for well over 10years now. Trust me when I say, I believe in "To each their own! Respect and understanding!" but trust me again when I say you would NOT want to take that as a life choice...EVER! NEVER EVER! Pain like this is not something you can forget about for a time and enjoy yourself. Trying to enjoy yourself/life means even more pain...which just makes life un-enjoyable!

oh and I have only read the 1st page so far so my :2c: may mean nothing at all?!

Your opinion will always be valid and accepted (as long as you're not insulting someone, lol!), I agree with you. The comment you quoted was a justification I used to recite to myself when I smoked, now that I don't smoke (no cigarettes since Mar. 5th :) ) I see the obvious wrongings of that quote.
 

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@Bert - While I agree that everyone should do as they please without being judged harshly, I also believe that we should be able to post what we want (as long as it doesn't insult or harm another member). That includes coming here and sharing his story. I don't believe that he posted this to incite irrational conversation, I think he just came to share. This is a place where we can come, smokers or vapors or both for conversation, support and advice. I believe he has every right to post what he did and I applaud his courage. It takes a pair to come out and be honest, I don't believe he's rubbing it in our face.

I understand what you are saying. I just happen to disagree. I have read enough of his posts on more than one forum, to come to the conclusion that it is most likely a troll post.
 

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Your opinion will always be valid and accepted (as long as you're not insulting someone, lol!), I agree with you. The comment you quoted was a justification I used to recite to myself when I smoked, now that I don't smoke (no cigarettes since Mar. 5th :) ) I see the obvious wrongings of that quote.

well I surely hope to NEVER insult anyone here!!
yes we make up lots of justifications to do things we know are wrong...that one is just very close to my heart and I would hate for someone to actually have to make such a choice. Death is a huge fear of mine (I know 20yr smoking, go figure) but I do think I would still choose no pain/short life over pain/long life!
 

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Hi Amy,

Sorry to hear you're suffering, I hope they find something that helps you. All I can do is send a bit of love....................................................................................................that's it sent :)

awww thanks Cil, that was very, very sweet...and yet another reason I am in :wub: ECF!!!
 

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well I surely hope to NEVER insult anyone here!!
yes we make up lots of justifications to do things we know are wrong...that one is just very close to my heart and I would hate for someone to actually have to make such a choice. Death is a huge fear of mine (I know 20yr smoking, go figure) but I do think I would still choose no pain/short life over pain/long life!

Oh okay - I see where you're coming from. Yes, optimally, we all hope for long lives with no pain. But I agree, I'd choose short/no pain over long/pain. What's the point of living if you're not actually living, right?

@Bert - Right on man, I obviously only have this post to go off of, sometimes when someone posts something that's borderline eye ticking (not saying that you do OP, just making a generalized statement), it's almost better to ignore it - though of course you know this, I am not telling you anything new. Thank you for understanding why I posted what I did. :)
 
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