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I might have to go though my emails and get off the mailing list.
 

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I might have to go though my emails and get off the mailing list.

And unsub from the bargain bin thread. Let's face it, if a good deal does come around that's good enough to post it there (doubt it), the shipping cost is gonna kill it.
 

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Mig Vapor sent an email saying their products will now be available exclusively through vaporfi. Said it's because vaporfi, unlike small companies such as Mig, had the resources to comply with all the PACT Act requirements. If i'm not mistaken, vaporfi is owned by R.J. Reynolds/Nabisco so, not surprising. https://www.vaporfi.com/vape-brands/migvapor/ . Kinda wondering why more small outfits didn't go that route.

Another thing I was thinking as well. If I order from a vendor who is following PACT act would they disclose "track and trace" somewhere in the check out?
Suggest you keep a record of what you purchase then report it however your state requires & pay whatever tax would be due... before anyone comes a'knockin'.
 

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We aren't about nicotine cessation, really. It's about tobacco harm reduction and free choice. Vaping has never marketed itself in the same manner as smoking cessation products. Yes, people managed to quit smoking by vaping and many have boasted about it. But vaping is a safer alternative to smoking, not a safe alternative to smoking, and only a few go on to break the nicotine addiction.
I know that and I agree. Getting off additives in cigarettes was a huge hurdle for me. However from their perspective, the medical addiction model is abstinence. And pharma accepts no competition. It's crazy when NRT's are "safe" for long term use and can be mailed. There's youtube vids of kids abusing nic gums and patches until they throw up. I've encountered ex-vapers who quit using vaping that now think eliquid is harmful and people should be able to just quit. [emoji1751]

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    I know that and I agree. Getting off additives in cigarettes was a huge hurdle for me. However from their perspective, the medical addiction model is abstinence. And pharma accepts no competition. It's crazy when NRT's are "safe" for long term use and can be mailed. There's youtube vids of kids abusing nic gums and patches until they throw up. I've encountered ex-vapers who quit using vaping that now think eliquid is harmful and people should be able to just quit. [emoji1751]

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    There's people addicted to gum and lozenges too. I don't see any bans about them going on, no banning of kid enticing flavors either.
     

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    I don't remember if someone brought this up yet, but what do y'all supposed the PACT Act 10 pound limit on B2C (retail) shipments is all about?

    10 pounds B2C? That's a lot of gear! I suppose it's meant to limit nicotine shipments, but you could get a couple of liters for under 10 pounds.
     

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    Ok @UncleJunkle That is strange. At MFS yes, the nic in the plastic bottle is $65, then there is the same 100mg nic in a glass bottle for $85.99...that's what I was seeing. Strange there would be that much of a difference, I can't see anything in the description to indicate its a higher quality. I don't think I'd be comfortable ordering an entire liter in glass, I'd be worried about breakage.
     

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    Ok @UncleJunkle That is strange. At MFS yes, the nic in the plastic bottle is $65, then there is the same 100mg nic in a glass bottle for $85.99...that's what I was seeing. Strange there would be that much of a difference, I can't see anything in the description to indicate its a higher quality. I don't think I'd be comfortable ordering an entire liter in glass, I'd be worried about breakage.

    And $20 is a lot to pay for one glass bottle.
     

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    I went on a shopping spree from March 21 through the 26th. All but a few of those orders have been delivered. Still waiting for FastTech, which doesn't surprise me. But, I am starting to get concerned about the order from Heartland Vapes, placed on the 21st for my final liter of base and a couple flavors.
    Maybe tomorrow...

    I also feel that, although I'm stocked to the gills on tanks and coils, I should've put more into dual battery mods. I've got plenty of cheap single cell mods, and a few nicer ones, and I may have to accept that format in the future as my standard (if I live that long). I'm putting my pair of quads in reserve for now.

    Does anyone know if the refurbishing service for Provari's is still available? How much it costs and contact info?
     

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    Mig Vapor sent an email saying their products will now be available exclusively through Vaporfi. Said it's because vaporfi, unlike small companies such as Mig, had the resources to comply with all the PACT Act requirements. If i'm not mistaken, vaporfi is owned by R.J. Reynolds/Nabisco so, not surprising. https://www.vaporfi.com/vape-brands/migvapor/ . Kinda wondering why more small outfits didn't go that route.


    Suggest you keep a record of what you purchase then report it however your state requires & pay whatever tax would be due... before anyone comes a'knockin'.
    No, I'm not going that route I'll just go to a vape store where they will charge the correct amount of tax. I have a vape store 1 mile from my house. I don't keep records of anything vape wise. I'm fairly stocked up but I do know buying vape gear is a obsession at times. Whenever, I felt crappy I would buy myself something new. Now I'll have to go into stores where the hipsters hang out. :)
     

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    Ok @UncleJunkle That is strange. At MFS yes, the nic in the plastic bottle is $65, then there is the same 100mg nic in a glass bottle for $85.99...that's what I was seeing. Strange there would be that much of a difference, I can't see anything in the description to indicate its a higher quality. I don't think I'd be comfortable ordering an entire liter in glass, I'd be worried about breakage.
    The glass allows you to put it in the freezer, as is, ready for long term storage. A long time ago I bought some from NN that was prepared for long term storage. I don't know if MFS does it, but mine was even topped with argon gas.

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    I don't remember if someone brought this up yet, but what do y'all supposed the PACT Act 10 pound limit on B2C (retail) shipments is all about?
    I think it was to prevent a black market from developing for eliquids. It doesn't make a lot of sense but then not much about this does.

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    I think it was to prevent a black market from developing for eliquids. It doesn't make a lot of sense but then not much about this does.

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    What's to stop me from making the 2 hour drive to OKC, buying a bunch of liters from Heartland and then going to Dallas, just 1.5 hours from where I live, and selling from my trunk? When the enacted this crazy law, they automatically set things up for a black market. Furthermore, I could dilute that nicotine with cheap industrial grade PG, or something worse, and increase my profits. Then we have another outbreak of something like EVALI.
     

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    Prohibition never works. It forces people to get creative which leads to injuries or deaths. That in turn forces the Prohibitionists to harsher methods (which you cannot convince me they do not enjoy) which in themselves can create injuries and death. Look what the US government did to taint alcohol in the 20s.

    I am not a tin foil hat type in general but EVALI was certainly conveniently timed for the prohibitionists. You cannot convince me they wouldn't relish it as an opportunity to utterly crush us if something else happened. Would they go so far as to engineer something? Most of them probably wouldn't, there is always that one nutcase though and that is all it would take.
     

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    I might have to go though my emails and get off the mailing list.

    I started unsubscribing to them all a year or two ago. Already stocked I don't need people enticing me to try something new, it's never an email about the coils I want on sale.

    All my orders were made before 3/27. If I need anything else now it's too late. I don't feel like spending the money and I don't feel like getting on the government's list. Fortunately for me I shouldn't need anything for another 40 years.
     
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