Vaping and the homeless
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It got deleted. The op of that decided that this subject is worth talking about, after all.
I'm reading through the link you posted and would like to see what he's been up to and possibly contact him.
His ECF account hasn't had any activity in over a year and his (first page)FB links are dead.
I see he has his gmail addy posted and I can shoot to the last page but no valid page links yet.
Are you still in touch with him?
No, I'm not sure if anyone is still in touch with him.
Towards the end of the thread he started getting serious health issues.
But I was a big fan of his efforts.
And his efforts were quite successful for awhile there.
I'm looking at his FB timeline and messaged him.
I'll do sufficient research before offering any aid.
back to that thread now...
I'll do sufficient research before offering any aid.
back to that thread now...
LOL - I saw a name I recognize in his videos
Yes, but she doesn't want credit, so make sure not to mention her name.
ugh.
some of the responses here.
i will tell you from experience, when you're homeless, your vices can easily outweigh your necessities on your priority list. feeling the sting of lifes downs and outs while hungry vs. hungrier, tends to be soothed to a point of almost complacency when your vices are sufficed. not to mention, it's surprising how many people will give a vagabond a cigarette or pour one a shot vs. tearing off a bite of their sandwich and handing it over.
that being said, as a former vagabond in my own right, i wouldn't dream of projecting my experience on another as an assumption. each person is different attempting mere survival of their own plight. often from one to the next, every detail is night and day.
i'm sure many, many would be grateful for whatever they get.
some of the responses here.
i will tell you from experience, when you're homeless, your vices can easily outweigh your necessities on your priority list. feeling the sting of lifes downs and outs while hungry vs. hungrier, tends to be soothed to a point of almost complacency when your vices are sufficed. not to mention, it's surprising how many people will give a vagabond a cigarette or pour one a shot vs. tearing off a bite of their sandwich and handing it over.
that being said, as a former vagabond in my own right, i wouldn't dream of projecting my experience on another as an assumption. each person is different attempting mere survival of their own plight. often from one to the next, every detail is night and day.
i'm sure many, many would be grateful for whatever they get.
If we hadn't of discovered vaping, how many of us would now be homeless due to smoking bans and pet bans, let alone the economy?
The thing to do is to contact your rescue missions and church's and build a community effort for helping the homeless smokers to switch over to vaping. They'll need freshly charged batteries, sterilized drip tips, affordable jooses, decent gear. Once freed from smoking, they stand better chances of getting a job & being able to rent an apt. Unless, they have a pet, which a lot of them do... in fact, that's what drove a lot of them homeless.. Refusing to give up their pet and/or smokes. They are both pertinent for many ailments.
The thing to do is to contact your rescue missions and church's and build a community effort for helping the homeless smokers to switch over to vaping. They'll need freshly charged batteries, sterilized drip tips, affordable jooses, decent gear. Once freed from smoking, they stand better chances of getting a job & being able to rent an apt. Unless, they have a pet, which a lot of them do... in fact, that's what drove a lot of them homeless.. Refusing to give up their pet and/or smokes. They are both pertinent for many ailments.
I imagine my youth a 100 years in the future scrounging for digital butts.
Okay. At this rate, let's say 5 years.
Okay. At this rate, let's say 5 years.
I personally feel good I'm vaping when the homeless come begging for a smoke because they see that vapor coming out of my mouth... All I have to do is show my mod and say I quit and they get it right away. If only I could show them my ATM card and do the same, I could go through downtown in a straight line uninterrupted and guilt free.
I once saw a documentary on regular people (NOT homeless) that actually live without spending money for other than rent or electricity and then spend very little on that too (like 10$ a month on electricity including our frequent sub-zero F winter days). They go around and collect old cigarette butts and re-rolls, food from restaurant garbage containers, furniture left on the sidewalk... The worst part was the one where this guy made a roast with a piece of beef from a trash can he found around 5 a.m.; it had to be lying there for a while and his fridge was also set for like +10C, which doesn't keep meat acceptable for even a day. I was literally thinking road kill sounded great in comparison if you had seen the thing run over. I don't see how these people could get into vaping anytime soon for they'd actually have to spend money on e-juice unless they feed off my sewage feed and can filter out that 1mL juice per half ton of human waste.
I once saw a documentary on regular people (NOT homeless) that actually live without spending money for other than rent or electricity and then spend very little on that too (like 10$ a month on electricity including our frequent sub-zero F winter days). They go around and collect old cigarette butts and re-rolls, food from restaurant garbage containers, furniture left on the sidewalk... The worst part was the one where this guy made a roast with a piece of beef from a trash can he found around 5 a.m.; it had to be lying there for a while and his fridge was also set for like +10C, which doesn't keep meat acceptable for even a day. I was literally thinking road kill sounded great in comparison if you had seen the thing run over. I don't see how these people could get into vaping anytime soon for they'd actually have to spend money on e-juice unless they feed off my sewage feed and can filter out that 1mL juice per half ton of human waste.
That is verging on mental illness. And evidence of a suicidal tendency on the part of people who live like that.
I messaged him on FB and messaged a couple of posters in that thread.
One of the guys lives within 20 miles of me but he hasn't posted in quite a while.
I hope he pops in to read once in a while.
I'd like to get something going around here or get involved in something ongoing.
I have friends (live & dead) that suffer(ed) from mental illness and it's heartbreaking.
If there's a thousand hurting people and someone helps just one it matters the world to that one.
I 100% agree with you, but you go try and convince them you're not insane for buying stuff. They are totally convinced that because they don't know anyone who got sick on that crap because they have taught themselves to discern what's good and what's not safe for eating, proof being that they don't have any friends that have been sick using this knowledge, except 'Charlie' who took a little chance once and they can tell they wouldn't have chanced it... but they haven't really seen the piece of meat themselves...
I'd pay to see a private one-on-one with those people who march to close down slaughter houses and try to make sense for more than 5 minutes... or seconds!
At least, with 50%+ PG content, you are not likely putting your life in jeopardy
I wouldn't support the cause for 'vaping for the homeless' but respect those who have thought about such topics and decided to share, keeps these forums interesting for a lurker like myself. I find it impractical to give homeless people ecigs and would be inclined to believe that some of them would inevitably abuse the ecigs as a instrument to get drugs into their system. The media would be all over that and so would the big tobacco industries.
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No joke, Nashville used to offer 1 way tickets to Miami in the winter
needles to say, that stopped.
I used to sleep in my car, and couch surf from time to time.
The problem with being homeless and vaping wouldn't be charging the equipment, though that would be an issue, the problem would be acquiring liquids. Acquiring liquids would present much the same issue as acquiring a pack of smokes, money. Except liquids would put another strain on a homeless person with availability. Sure you could get liquids at some liquor stores and tobacco shops, but there's a far better chance that the person next to me has a cigarette, if not, I know that if I search certain areas of the city, I can acquire cigarettes.
A homeless person that smokes spends most of their time sniping cigs, looking for food, and a place to relax/sleep. I don't think a homeless person that smokes would keep up with the troubles of vaping for very long.
Just my
The problem with being homeless and vaping wouldn't be charging the equipment, though that would be an issue, the problem would be acquiring liquids. Acquiring liquids would present much the same issue as acquiring a pack of smokes, money. Except liquids would put another strain on a homeless person with availability. Sure you could get liquids at some liquor stores and tobacco shops, but there's a far better chance that the person next to me has a cigarette, if not, I know that if I search certain areas of the city, I can acquire cigarettes.
A homeless person that smokes spends most of their time sniping cigs, looking for food, and a place to relax/sleep. I don't think a homeless person that smokes would keep up with the troubles of vaping for very long.
Just my
I think maybe bman1977 is dyslexic, and thought it said HEARTLESS.
Just because you were a thief when you were homeless, do not assume all homeless people are thieves.
They're not.
When I lived in New Haven a bunch of homeless guys (ex vietnam veterans) lived behind my parking lot. One night somebody tried to rob my truck (NOT a homeless person, just a garden variety thief) The homeless guys assailed him and one got hold of the police, as the thief was carrying away my car stereo, fishing poles, etc. Thankfully I got everything back. The homeless guys kept an eye on the neighborhood. They were nice people, but with alcohol problems. None of them stole anything from anyone. They once fought for us in the armed services for us....honorable men.
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