Vaping at Walmart

[Lessifer]

Reading through the responses in this thread...makes me side with the recent bill that just passed in CA; vaping to be treated as a tobacco product. It limits its use to assigned areas than "I'll do it wherever the hell I want to disregarding your private space, their private space, and everyone else's because it's not smoking so it's not illegal."

Our future is doomed...

If you think that's all the recent bill(group of bills) that just passed out of a committee does, you're in for a surprise.

 

[Thespis]

You can't walk around blowing vapor in every customers face

Why the hyperbole? You've never actually seen this happen, so why is it part of the discussion?

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[Bunnykiller]

I have anxiety, and I'm addicted to nicotine, but I refuse to push my problems onto others. Personally, when I smoked, I hated being around vapers because all I knew was, they were exhaling something that smelled nasty. It still bothers me when I have to smell cinnamon or bad tobacco flavored vapor when I go into vape shops or I'm at Walmart and someone feels like making me uncomfortable for their comfort.

there is an easy solution for your issues... just stay out of those places...

 

[hmar]

I don't think anyone here is advocating blowing clouds in people's faces. Of course there is a line. The question that needs to be answered is "where is that line?"
There is no need to make others uncomfortable, at the same time you can vape indoors without making others uncomfortable. Discretion is key, not hiding. If it gets to the pint that so many are vaping in Walmart that it starts to look like a vape shop then yeah, ban it. And certainly chasing clouds in Walmart will cause those bans. Discreet vaping, respectfully, should not. Until then, let people live their lives, there is no need to ban responsible vaping.

 

[MrAngry]

I've never needed a vape so bad I couldn't wait to get out of the store.

Whether or not it's healthier than smoking has nothing to do with it. It's still rude. It's also going to get the people in general to come crashing down on vaping. Let's face it, some of these laws are coming down because people are doing things like vaping in Walmart.

I don't even bring my mod in places like that. It stays happily locked in the car.

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[Bunnykiller]

I wonder how many vapers who wouldnt vape in an enclosed public space would vape if stuck in an elevator for over several hours and the other people in the elevator didnt mind vaping but one... or better yet no one minded.... would you still vape even tho it was an enclosed public place?

 

[WillyZee]

I wonder how many vapers who wouldnt vape in an enclosed public space would vape if stuck in an elevator for over several hours and the other people in the elevator didnt mind vaping but one... or better yet no one minded.... would you still vape even tho it was an enclosed public place?

The vapers I personally know ... none.

However, there's always that guy with his sub tank ... looking to entertain folks with big clouds.


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[choochoogranny]

Shoot, when smoking was everywhere and banned nowhere, I do not remember ever seeing someone smoke in church, department stores, grocery stores or even when walking on the sidewalks. This was before the days of WalMart when you had "5 and dimes" where you didn't smoke either. There was NO law against it. Was just not done; but then you also didn't wear jeans and sneakers to church, got dressed up to fly....where you could smoke in a comfortable seat wide enough to fit your fanny in with enough leg room you could stretch out.....Think they call the coach of yesterday "first class" today.......and gals had to wear skirts or dresses to school and work. Even those who were really poor, tried their best to look their best and conduct themselves civilly.

With just one black and white TV in the house and one phone, you learned to cooperate and negotiate early! Different times.

 

[440BB]

I wonder how many vapers who wouldnt vape in an enclosed public space would vape if stuck in an elevator for over several hours and the other people in the elevator didnt mind vaping but one... or better yet no one minded.... would you still vape even tho it was an enclosed public place?

Practically speaking, I would ask the person who objects if it would be OK for me to take an occasional puff and hold it in until the vapor dissipates, and demonstrate that to them once. They likely wouldn't object, as my ADV flavor is a mild mint/menthol. If they did, I would refrain, but likely get a little edgy after a few hours in an elevator.

If the elevator remained stuck for an extended period to the point we were considering becoming cannibals, I would of course nominate the person who objected as the first to go.

 

[beckdg]

It's an easy stance to say hey everybody should do everything. But when the government is spending millions of our dollars on advertising campaigns against us, I think we should take a step back and evaluate how we can make sure we don't feed into the image being thrown at the general public.

What does the general public know about vaping? I won't assume, because you keep throwing that around at me like it's some sort of insult. So let's, the both of us now, assume that it's not a great deal. Most people ask me if I'm doing drugs, or tell me it's poisonous. And more dangerous than cigarettes. It's true. My girlfriends stepmother, she's closer to your age. She won't even let vape near her. So I don't. It's not a big deal to me. But my point is, if this is the majority, how in the world does vaping in stores help our cause? You talk a lot about forcing people, but you're forcing them to smell your vapor. Oh, that's right, you stealth vape. So you only condone stealth vaping, and agree with me on regular vaping and that people should consider other people's potential feelings on it? How stealthy must it be to be considered stealth enough? I don't just walk into my friends house and start vaping, and then say oh it's ok I stealthed it.

Your insistence there's an insult is in itself an insult.

Your insistence you're speaking to discourteous, selfish people is an insult.

Your understanding on why the gooberment is passing anything is laughable.

Your answer to curtail our pursuit of health and happiness is even more laughable and somewhat sickening... and extremely insulting being it's dependent on the aforementioned assumptions/insults.

Have you spoke to the general.public? I do every day. In all 48 states. About vaping. Out of several hundred people, presumably over 1000, I've met 4 with a negative outlook on vaping. I've succeeded in changing 2 of those.

Negative public perception as a whole is a farce.

It's the few, the driven, the agenda we're up against. How and where and when you vape isn't going to put their lobbying purses back on the shelf.

The general public you've been dealing with obviously does not represent the larger portion. Introverted idiots are everywhere. Unfortunately there are places with a larger concentration.

Maybe moving to a new area will lighten your judgemental mood.

Nobody's forcing anyone here. But some folks are trying... and now trying to turn the table.

We see you. We know better.

This is childish whining. Little Johnny doesn't like what little Janey is doing and wants big bad daddy to put an end to it.

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

Here in the Philippines, we are allowed to vape at our local Walmart ....

I love that picture.

/thread

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

Why the hyperbole? You've never actually seen this happen, so why is it part of the discussion?

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Because that's the whole premise of that side of the argument.

Imagination is all they got.

Tapatyped

 

[skoony]

In my state it's illegal to vape indoors, where smoking is prohibited. I'm not against the law. I'm against people who break the law. I'm also against people vaping indoors where it's legal just because your legal system hasn't caught up yet. The more of you who do it, the quicker they will make a law against it. While they're at it, they might also tax you, or ban it entirely. The problem with vaping indoors, it's only good for you when only you do it. It's ultimately a selfish act.

why,where and,how we vape is not,was not and will not be the reason vaping will
be restricted and taxed.
after all the myriad arguments pro and con are said and done,it all boils down
to the money and who gets to control the money.

I'm just trying to understand why people insist on vaping in stores! Maybe I have a sensitive nose. I've had a temporary roommate because she came back to the country and had no place to live, and every time she cooks it irritates me. Maybe that's it? My friend vapes some cinnamon disgusting fireball type flavor and it grosses me out. It grosses everyone out actually. I can't imagine him being able to conceal that at all. And if he's blowing that around in a store, God help the customers.

i am trying to understand why just because it annoys you it means that every one
else on the planet is annoyed according to you.
have you asked every one on the planet if it annoys them?

Why do you type that way? I skip posts with that type of structure 90% of the time.

what type of structure are you referring too?
does it have a name?
regards
mike

 

[Vapez]

You

why,where and,how we vape is not,was not and will not be the reason vaping will
be restricted and taxed.
after all the myriad arguments pro and con are said and done,it all boils down
to the money and who gets to control the money.





i am trying to understand why just because it annoys you it means that every one
else on the planet is annoyed according to you.
have you asked every one on the planet if it annoys them?



what type of structure are you referring too?
does it have a name?
regards
mike

You're talking
like this
it doesn't make any
sense
It's just really annoying
Why do you do that?

 

[HauntedMyst]

Is this the new album cover for "The Unemployables"?

 

[skoony]

You

You're talking
like this
it doesn't make any
sense
It's just really annoying
Why do you do that?

sorry about
that.
when i get time
i will get my major in english.
until then
it is what
it is.
regards
mike

 

[bman1977]

Why would anyone hang out in Walmart?

 

[crxess]

It's an easy stance to say hey everybody should do everything. But when the government is spending millions of our dollars on advertising campaigns against us, I think we should take a step back and evaluate how we can make sure we don't feed into the image being thrown at the general public.

What does the general public know about vaping? I won't assume, because you keep throwing that around at me like it's some sort of insult. So let's, the both of us now, assume that it's not a great deal. Most people ask me if I'm doing drugs, or tell me it's poisonous. And more dangerous than cigarettes. It's true. My girlfriends stepmother, she's closer to your age. She won't even let vape near her. So I don't. It's not a big deal to me. But my point is, if this is the majority, how in the world does vaping in stores help our cause? You talk a lot about forcing people, but you're forcing them to smell your vapor. Oh, that's right, you stealth vape. So you only condone stealth vaping, and agree with me on regular vaping and that people should consider other people's potential feelings on it? How stealthy must it be to be considered stealth enough? I don't just walk into my friends house and start vaping, and then say oh it's ok I stealthed it.

First, educate yourself on Vaping, Not being a Vaper, Vaping.
Start Here:
Why It's Called An 'E-Cigarette' And 'E-Smoking'
Then hit the ECF Library of information on the subject.

Then instead of assuming you have Become a Leper in society because you Vape and need to Cover yourself from all, learn to communicate with people.
Communication is education.<<<<<<<<<<<<,See what I did there? Government Communicates what it wants people to be educated in.(Facts or Lies)

As I said and you ignored, I carry a device you may not even understand. I use a Flavoring you may not even understand(I DIY). I Vape outside my home in a way you may not even understand.
I communicate with people I come into contact with while vaping in ways you surely do not understand.
I do what Government does only on a one-on-one basis.

While I have only converted some 25-30 smokers, I have educated 10 times as many Non-Smokers and I rarely leave home.

I meet their misinformed statements with polite responses and strike up Valuable conversation eventually leaving them with an understanding and curiosity to learn more.

This is what is important. Educational Combat.

If one acts as a smoker, one will be 100% treated as a smoker.
When you may only Vape in a Home you own and stand outside by Dumpsters in a designated Smoking area full of Stinking damp Tobacco with a dozen Smokers puffing away, maybe you will come to realize you Quit Smoking to get away from its Health Risk, Stench and Stigmatism. Then it will be to late.

Government Propaganda will have created the next public health risk in its efforts to keep tax money rolling in.

Pssst............Did you know Flavorless E-liquid has no smell?

 

[Lessifer]

sorry about
that.
when i get time
i will get my major in english.
until then
it is what
it is.
regards
mike

I like it, it's a bit like reading an e e cummings poem with every post

 

[crxess]

First, educate yourself on Vaping, Not being a Vaper, Vaping.
Start Here:
Why It's Called An 'E-Cigarette' And 'E-Smoking'
Then hit the ECF Library of information on the subject.

Then instead of assuming you have Become a Leper in society because you Vape and need to Cover yourself from all, learn to communicate with people.
Communication is education.<<<<<<<<<<<<,See what I did there? Government Communicates what it wants people to be educated in.(Facts or Lies)

As I said and you ignored, I carry a device you may not even understand. I use a Flavoring you may not even understand(I DIY). I Vape outside my home in a way you may not even understand.
I communicate with people I come into contact with while vaping in ways you surely do not understand.
I do what Government does only on a one-on-one basis.

While I have only converted some 25-30 smokers, I have educated 10 times as many Non-Smokers and I rarely leave home.

I meet their misinformed statements with polite responses and strike up Valuable conversation eventually leaving them with an understanding and curiosity to learn more.

This is what is important. Educational Combat.

If one acts as a smoker, one will be 100% treated as a smoker.
When you may only Vape in a Home you own and stand outside by Dumpsters in a designated Smoking area full of Stinking damp Tobacco with a dozen Smokers puffing away, maybe you will come to realize you Quit Smoking to get away from its Health Risk, Stench and Stigmatism. Then it will be to late.

Government Propaganda will have created the next public health risk in its efforts to keep tax money rolling in.

Pssst............Did you know Flavorless E-liquid has no smell?

A co-worker:
Name is Ed. He is a Tea Party member, Male chauvinist and 100% ANTZ.
He and I have had many conversations, often while I vape. Much time was dedicated to breaking down myths and assumptions on his part.
He Sees Vaping in a different light now and he is very active person in Politics.
Well, to be fair - maybe he is now 99.8% ANTZ.