Vaping at Walmart

[ImThatGuy]

You're projecting this conversation into an alternate reality.

I have never been put in the situations you speak of.

Nor am I aware of any instance where I've caused one.

I suspect those stats are unanimous in this discussion.

You're not speaking to children here.

Tapatyped

You may never have been in those situations, but it doesn't mean it hasn't or won't happen to someone else.
The instance may or may not have happened, but to know you caused one, one must be confronted and most just shrug it off or they may have never told you.
Stats are stats, what relevance is it here?
Exactly, I am not speaking to children here. I can safely assume my thoughts were understood.

I think ^^^THIS^^^ is taking very much of what many here have posted in a very unfair and biased manor. That is the very type of attitude from many non-anything self right persons that makes everything worse for everyone. It is the eptimy of the beginning of
I DON'T LIKE (...) SO IT SHOULD NOT BE!

A single puff/Draw/Toot or whatever does not indicate in any way BLOWING Clouds of Rancid Fragrances in anyone's face.
A drizzle is NOT a Monsoon
An Empty store Isle is not a Restaurant.

I am not saying there are not OBNOXIOUS SELF RIGHTEOUS Vapers that think they can do anything they please. Those type will do whatever, vaping or not. Bad Apples are Bad apples irregardless of the Basket they come in.

People need to try and keep things in context.

Tell your story - Your preferences and ways
Let others decide if your tale adds Value to their life.

Single puff/draw/toot or whatever, but where does it end? What constitutes 'clouds of rancid fragrances' to you? To her? To him? To them?
Correct, a drizzle is not a monsoon. But isn't one offensive instance enough to say it's more than enough?
True, an 'empty' store aisle is not a restaurant. A place to shop, a place to eat, a place to rest, a place to drink, a place to exercise, etc., do you not expect the same personal space you or anyone would like to have in these different places?

Here's a prime example, (bolded in my previous reply), what would stop anyone from vaping in a kinder school? vaping is not illegal, if I can vape at Walmart, why can I not vape at the school where my 6 year old attends? If I can grab a toot at Walmart, I sure can toot at olive garden while eating my pasta, etc. Where does it end? What is the limit? Is there a limit? Can common sense, etiquette, and accountability play a part in this? Who out there has the right to judge you, him, her, them?

 

[stevegmu]

Unfettered vaping has no bounds, other that those set by the vaper and societal norms...

 

[Asbestos4004]

Smoking and vaping are allowed in the red room...

That's like the s&m ISLE

 

[stevegmu]

That's like the s&m ISLE

Yes, it's quite the Island. What's interesting is if I keep my red iridium shades on, with the way it is lit up red, I see gray...

 

[beckdg]

You may never have been in those situations, but it doesn't mean it hasn't or won't happen to someone else.
The instance may or may not have happened, but to know you caused one, one must be confronted and most just shrug it off or they may have never told you.
Stats are stats, what relevance is it here?
Exactly, I am not speaking to children here. I can safely assume my thoughts were understood.



Single puff/draw/toot or whatever, but where does it end? What constitutes 'clouds of rancid fragrances' to you? To her? To him? To them?
Correct, a drizzle is not a monsoon. But isn't one offensive instance enough to say it's more than enough?
True, an 'empty' store aisle is not a restaurant. A place to shop, a place to eat, a place to rest, a place to drink, a place to exercise, etc., do you not expect the same personal space you or anyone would like to have in these different places?

Here's a prime example, (bolded in my previous reply), what would stop anyone from vaping in a kinder school? Vaping is not illegal, if I can vape at Walmart, why can I not vape at the school where my 6 year old attends? If I can grab a toot at Walmart, I sure can toot at olive garden while eating my pasta, etc. Where does it end? What is the limit? Is there a limit? Can common sense, etiquette, and accountability play a part in this? Who out there has the right to judge you, him, her, them?

Do you realize your whole stance is based on imagination and hypotheticals?

And that you're using that to counter real life experiences?

Tapatyped

 

[ImThatGuy]

If you want people to be courteous, that is one thing, if you're going to cry for legislation because someone may hypothetically offend you, that is something totally different.

That is one thing, but who am I or anyone else to tell them otherwise when one's thought can be, "it's not illegal", "it's not smoking", "It's not a cigarette", "it was just a toot", "did it smell bad?"etc. Obviously we can't be left with the responsibility of self-governing.

I'm not crying for legislation, but a bill that has been presented to protect one's choice to not be "bothered" by vape regardless of their reasons, is a pro for me.

 

[stevegmu]

I like the self regulation in Prague. If a hooligan is blowing clouds on a train and people are bothered by it and he doesn't stop, he gets tossed out the window...

 

[ImThatGuy]

Do you realize your whole stance is based on imagination and hypotheticals?

And that you're using that to counter real life experiences?

Tapatyped

You've never went to a vape shop (where everyone in there is vaping freely, legal, and wait for it...) then someone exhales a cloud of vapor toward you, near you, or in front of you, not even directly at you, but gave you a reaction where nothing else can be said but 'W T F is that smell! That's horrible" and then you ask them to please stop vaping that. And or even when they get a dry hit or they're continually hitting an atomizer that needs to be replaced?

It's happened more than once to me. Imagination and hypotheticals are always a possibility without limits.

 

[crxess]

Well, the thread was a bit of fun until the Radical Extremist and diversionary Trolls dug in.

Like everything in life - someone has to ruin it for everyone else

Think I'll look for a greener pasture thread.

Thread is starting to look like a day at Walmart(right before Christmas)

 

[beckdg]

You've never went to a vape shop (where everyone in there is vaping freely, legal, and wait for it...) then someone exhales a cloud of vapor toward you, near you, or in front of you, not even directly at you, but gave you a reaction where nothing else can be said but 'W T F is that smell! That's horrible" and then you ask them to please stop vaping that. And or even when they get a dry hit or they're continually hitting an atomizer that needs to be replaced?

It's happened more than once to me. Imagination and hypotheticals are always a possibility without limits.

Anywhere worth mentioning?

Tapatyped

 

[440BB]

I just vaped at an Olive Garden last weekend, in the men's room. With a little discretion, one can vape at a church, an ER, nursing homes, art museums, most anywhere. I have been able to do so without my habit violating anybody's bubble of personal space.

 

[skoony]

so let me get this straight.
my rights end where all the mysterious non existent non vapors
noses begin. on the off chance that someone maybe,perhaps,
just might be annoyed?
just where are all these people? i check the cereal isle every time
I go to the store. I check at the bus stop and on the bus. I check
at the big box store. I check every where. I have yet to find the
elusive offended bystander. I know they must exist as people here
have assured me they do exist. alas my search continues perhaps
in vain.
but maybe,just maybe it's because even though we have no ban
here it's a non-issue.
regards
mike

 

[tony7432]

we already had the battery exploded in mod thread closed because some people got rambunctious which is a shame because there was some good info being given to battery noobs like myself..while i dont see much valuable info here on mod usage other than why we shouldnt vape in stores but we should still not step on toes of the forum rules and get this one shut as well..it will just make the mods and admin enforce stricter rules and lock this one as well and for most it may not mean much but for new folks looking to join and see bickering and child like fighting it may make them move on to other forums to get their info instead of joining us.

 

[rgerber]

Reminds me of an old Irish blessing...."OYE!"

 

[HauntedMyst]

Pretty sure that's a typical Walmart experience many of us have had, but more importantly, did you vape?

No, I was in a store and didn't feel the need to vape. For pete's sake, we should have some self control and not feel the need to vape in stores. We're not drug addicts.

 

[Bunnykiller]

No, but I saw a show about deodorant once. Everything has a surprising amount of chemicals. One study found something like 20000 chemicals in bottled water...

Im betting that there are only a maximum of 80 elements in Ejuice at best

 

[Ou2mame]

No, I was in a store and didn't feel the need to vape. For pete's sake, we should have some self control and not feel the need to vape in stores. We're not drug addicts.

'merica! I do what I want!

Seriously though, I'm glad not all vapers are out there making us look like drug addicts who can't be without a fix long enough to get 5 quarts of motor oil, cat food, and some toilet paper.

 

[crxess]

No, I was in a store and didn't feel the need to vape. For pete's sake, we should have some self control and not feel the need to vape in stores. We're not drug addicts.

Thought I was done, but maybe not quite yet.
No disrespect. I generally leave my Mod in my cubbie on the floor of my Pickup when I Run into a store for a few Items.
If I know I will be confined within the walls for a long period of time I usually place my Out and about backup in my pocket. It is mostly a Pacifier and usually gets me by just knowing I have it handy.

Maybe it is the 45+ years of Heavy Smoking and the Long Term, Slow reversing Damage that has been done to MY body and MY mind(MIOA's) and a little(lot) of Claustrophobia on MY part.
Who is to say the true addiction has worn off at what length of time?

Think about it. All these ME, ME, ME people assuming they have any clue what someone else really need or not and should do or not. Geniuses I tell you, absolute Geniuses. They have the answer for everyone. Sound(ANTZ) Familiar?

Do people even realize I have suffered smoking for longer than many posting have even existed? Could they even begin to understand the difference that length of time Smoking could have had on me personally or anyone other than themselves?

Are they being at all Objective? I really do not think so.
Judgmental maybe, but not Objective
Defensive, but not Objective.

I still get all when my wife lifts her IPV mini/Kayfun for a quick puff but no one else has said anything so neither do I.

Yet here we are with people judging me and others like me while assuming the worst conduct from us rather actually thinking about what has been said.

One cannot offend anyone if no one is offended.
One cannot honestly Judge anything you have not personally experienced - Good/Bad/ or otherwise.

Explanations teach!
Assertions {a confident and forceful statement of fact or belief} are often rooted in personal assumption.

 

[Bunnykiller]

I wonder if there are people who go into a sushi place, order the california roll ( since there is no "fish" in it) and someone was sitting there at the bar ( who had been there even before the california roll person showed up) and when the persons sushimi was placed in front of them, the person who ordered the california roll got disgusted because they smelled fish ( which totally smelled horrid to the CR person)... and the CR person raises a fuss because the smell was unbearable from the sashimi plate sitting next to the CR person.... what happens now?? does the CR person move, or force the sashimi orderer to move? or better even yet, make the sashimi orderer re-order another plate that doesnt smell like fish.... ohohoohhh heres the out come of the situation... the sushi bar is no longer allowed to serve raw fish.... just because some one (1) detests the smell of fish....
this is how its all gonna end...

 

[Bunnykiller]

think Ill go have another beer.... if no one minds...