Vaping in Public

[Razorback]

Ok, I'm a new member, lurker would be more exact and that's why this has to go here. I just read through a few posts in the "vaping in public" forum, and to be honest I'm disgusted for a lack of a better term.

First, I'm a long time vaper myself. Moved from analogs and cig-a-likes combined to just e-cigs, pro-tanks, many different models and my go to right now is a AGA-T2 RBA on a Zmax mini. So... I understand.

However, It seems as if many people who posted in the public vaping threads are treating it as "I'm not smoking, therefor I have the right to do it where ever I choose to, and if you don't like it you are ignorant and wrong". Please... give me a break. There are many people with allergies to PG and even more people with sensitivities to smells like in perfumes and, guess what, vapor. Did you guys switch to vaping because you want to get your fix anywhere you want or because it will save your life? I can't even comprehend how someone can vape in the office or on the bus or at the movies right next to non-vapers and than complain about people complaining. You are the one who is exposing other people to something they don't want to be exposed to. Whatever there reason is, it does not mater please respect that. There is a lot of talk about freedom and the right to do what you want, but you are the one who is forcefully restricting other peoples right to clean, nicotine and PG free air.

Anyway, enough ranting. (Mentally preparing myself for the angry replies I will get)

I agree w/ you. IF you can't smoke in a certain place, then I wouldn't vape there either. At least I wouldn't make it noticeable. AKA stealth vape!

 

[CaseyA]

I agree with you although it would be nice to be able to vape whenever or wherever I like!!!

 

[blues72]

I stealth vape pretty often, but if someone asked me to stop, i would of course oblige.

I was really concerned about any second hand vape concerns for my family and read the report provided by the professor from Drexel University and came away feeling much better about the lack of health risks from the vapor i exhale...

 

[wv2win]

WV, I was not trying to tell you what to do. If I came across that way, then I am sorry. I suppose my second paragraph implied you are an R, and I did not mean to do that.

The rest was simply my thoughts and observations. I agree with what you are saying, all I am saying is when we step into "Democrats do XXXX" territory it has been my experience that people who have been conditioned to support their parties drop all other issues and attack the post (and the poster). So I feel that it is hard to broach the subject in a way that doesn't derail any sort of coalition of vapers. I bet as a group vapers are about equally composed of Democrats and Republicans. So noting that Democrats are more hostile to vaping will infuriate a segment of the vaping population. That is all I am saying. I am not telling you not to do it (and I know you well enough to know it wouldn't do any good).

Is it fair that our population consists of many people that believe either of the political parties are the only thing that will save their way of life? Hell No!

I can't fix that. I am not good enough or strong enough. I wish I could.

I am just trying to conserve my energy by not fighting that fight. If I can help the tiny issue of vaping in between being a father and taking care of my customers and making sure my department remains profitable, i will be happy.

I knew you weren't, Ed and I didn't take it that way. I've just read too many posts claiming that vaping is not a political issue, when unfortunately, a particular cadre of politicians have made it a political issue when it should not be one.

I know a particular state representative who I have communicated with about vaping. She is definitely not of the persuasion who wants government to regulate every aspect of our lives. She told me that from the information she has read, as well as what I have provided her, that vaping should be left out of the political arena. She believes that individuals should be left alone by government to live their lives as long as they are not harming others or society as a whole. We need more representatives at all levels of government like her. I voted for her and glad she got elected. This whole vaping issue has made me realize that who we vote for does matter.

 

[ckn71nm]

I knew you weren't, Ed and I didn't take it that way. I've just read too many posts claiming that vaping is not a political issue, when unfortunately, a particular cadre of politicians have made it a political issue when it should not be one.

I know a particular state representative who I have communicated with about vaping. She is definitely not of the persuasion who wants government to regulate every aspect of our lives. She told me that from the information she has read, as well as what I have provided her, that vaping should be left out of the political arena. She believes that individuals should be left alone by government to live their lives as long as they are not harming others or society as a whole. We need more representatives at all levels of government like her. I voted for her and glad she got elected. This whole vaping issue has made me realize that who we vote for does matter.

I absolutely agree. She nailed it.

 

[LDS714]

This whole vaping issue has made me realize that who we vote for does matter.

Just the tip of a massive iceburg.

It doesn't matter what letter they wear on their jersey - you have to look at the individual and their core values (if they have any).

 

[kappsta]

I just started vaping / quitting cigs and have had no problems vaping in public (bars, waiting for the train, etc). I've been doing it at my desk as well (just not when my manager is near) and will continue to do so until someone says I can't. It has been very helpful to not have to go outside in the cold during this first week of quitting analogs. Unfortunately, I live in Chicago and our mayor has banned public indoor vaping effective in April. Grrr.

 

[EddardinWinter]

I knew you weren't, Ed and I didn't take it that way. I've just read too many posts claiming that vaping is not a political issue, when unfortunately, a particular cadre of politicians have made it a political issue when it should not be one.

I know a particular state representative who I have communicated with about vaping. She is definitely not of the persuasion who wants government to regulate every aspect of our lives. She told me that from the information she has read, as well as what I have provided her, that vaping should be left out of the political arena. She believes that individuals should be left alone by government to live their lives as long as they are not harming others or society as a whole. We need more representatives at all levels of government like her. I voted for her and glad she got elected. This whole vaping issue has made me realize that who we vote for does matter.

Unbelievable. Well here is an interesting letter...

No commentary. The letter speaks for itself. The link is to Senator Durbin's official website.

Members of Congress Call for Ban of E-Cigarettes on Capitol Grounds - Press Releases - Press Office - U.S. Senator Dick Durbin

 

[ckn71nm]

Unbelievable. Well here is an interesting letter...

No commentary. The letter speaks for itself. The link is to Senator Durbin's official website.

Members of Congress Call for Ban of E-Cigarettes on Capitol Grounds - Press Releases - Press Office - U.S. Senator .... Durbin

That letter makes me sad. I have rarely seen that much misinformation compounded in such a short piece of text (I'm glad I managed to write "text" and not what I was actually thinking).

 

[wv2win]

Unbelievable. Well here is an interesting letter...

No commentary. The letter speaks for itself. The link is to Senator Durbin's official website.

Members of Congress Call for Ban of E-Cigarettes on Capitol Grounds - Press Releases - Press Office - U.S. Senator .... Durbin

Thanks for posting, Ed. From the statement:

"To ensure that visitors and staff are protected from the potential dangers posed by electronic cigarettes and their vapor, U.S. Senators .... Durbin (D-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Edward J. Markey (D-MA), Tom Harkin (D-IA), Barbara Boxer (D-CA), and U.S. Representative Henry A. Waxman (D-CA) today called on the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration and the House Office Building Commission to include electronic cigarettes in existing prohibitions banning smoking in all public places on Capitol Grounds and within twenty-five feet from entrances."

We are so fortunate to have these nanny-state leaders protecting us from our misguided ignorance.

 

[LDS714]

Unbelievable. Well here is an interesting letter...

No commentary. The letter speaks for itself. The link is to Senator Durbin's official website.

Members of Congress Call for Ban of E-Cigarettes on Capitol Grounds - Press Releases - Press Office - U.S. Senator .... Durbin

A public display of ignorance. Or is it?

Ladies in gentlemen, in this corner we have, weighing in at billions of dollars in campaign contributions - The Tobacco and Drug Lobbys!

And in this corner, weighing in at a mere pittance in campaign contributions - The Vaping Lobby!

Wow, that was a short fight...

ETA - So where do you think Big Tobacco started spending their advertising dollars once advertising was outlawed? Now, I'm not saying that the politicos made those laws expressly to funnel that money into campaign contributions instead of the advertising industry. It was obviously because of their concern for the public's overall health and happiness, right?

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

[WASHINGTON, D.C.] – To ensure that visitors and staff are protected from the potential dangers posed by electronic cigarettes and their vapor, U.S. Senators .... Durbin (D-IL), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Edward J. Markey (D-MA), Tom Harkin (D-IA), Barbara Boxer (D-CA), and U.S. Representative Henry A. Waxman (D-CA) today called on the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration and the House Office Building Commission to include electronic cigarettes in existing prohibitions banning smoking in all public places on Capitol Grounds and within twenty-five feet from entrances.

Well, I know some here say this is all about a politician's character and not really about political affiliation but there sure are a lot of D's next to those bill sponsor's names.

Unsurprising to say the least.

 

[EddardinWinter]

I am tempted to drive up and vape 10' from the entrance. I am only two hours away.



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[Hypatia]

My roommate doesn't want me vaping in our apartment but I'm wondering if I should just do it anyway in my room when my door is closed. She wouldn't notice anyway

I'd tell her I'd stop vaping in the apartment if she stops farting, burping, cooking stinky food, wearing perfume I hate, you get the picture. But I'm sassy like that, lol!

Actually, I find the vaping in public debate intriguing. I would say I'm one that lives in a "live and let live" sorta place, I've come to realize. I vape inside buildings at my university. We're still a "smoking outside is okay pretty much anywhere" campus, and no policy about ecigs (even checked with campus police in a neutral way--not asking permission--that's like asking if I can nuke my leftover Chinese take-out in the cafe's communal microwave--umm, why are you asking that? Eat what you want.)

Nobody, I mean, nobody minds one bit or even notices. Shrug--I guess people 'round these parts are generally not bothersome/easily bothered people.

 

[TheVapingNinja]

i agree with the OP...when i vape, its usually not in the presence of others unless they're vaping too

 

[SleeZy]

When i was at the local pub here in sweden, i got permission to smoke indoors.
Quite a few got interested in what e-cigg is. It's not that big in sweden yet, not in public atleast.
Yet our customs is trying to prevent them from coming into our country, because of the nicotine.

They're not illegal yet, but still our customs takes some of the packages -.-'

 

[EddardinWinter]

When i was at the local pub here in sweden, i got permission to smoke indoors.
Quite a few got interested in what e-cigg is. It's not that big in sweden yet, not in public atleast.
Yet our customs is trying to prevent them from coming into our country, because of the nicotine.

They're not illegal yet, but still our customs takes some of the packages -.-'

That is terrible. Do they let smokes into the country?



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[Mutescream]

I'm less angry than compelled to point out a flaw in the OP's logic. There are a myriad of odors that I personally suffer through, that give me migraines. I am expected to suck it up, because hand lotions and perfumes/colognes are more socially acceptable. If I have the temerity to point out that it would be nice if the scent were more subtle, I'm looked at like I'm nuts. Consideration is something that is an ideology, not a convenient weapon to stigmatize and marginalize something on a whim.

Perhaps if everyone were consderate, and manners applied universally, your position would have merit. The problem is, the rules only apply when one is not socially accepted, even when the end result is the same as the socially acceptable behavior.

 

[SleeZy]

That is terrible. Do they let smokes into the country?



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Yeah max 2 boxes (200 cigg each box)
They're still debating if they should classify it as medical equipment. As of now private people are allowed to order because it's not banned yet. However customs found some way around that so they stop them anyway. "Unknown substances"

 

[faboom]

I tend to ask before vaping in public places...my local waterhole allows it...I also like to go outside with smokers where, inevitably, we start up a conversation on vaping!