Vaping is too complicated.

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MacTechVpr

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Yeah, thats why its complicated I guess. You can find both answers as correct on the web. Either way is fine. I use both.

Yep, the science behind vaping might be daunting to some. Like if you've never cooked a meal for yourself beyond a burnt burger. Everything we do right has an effective method…and reasons for it.

Succesful vapers are grateful for the useful observations made on this forum. I know this, firsthand. Once they get beyond the distractions, it is simple.

Good luck and Happy New Year. :)
 

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^ That is the case but this person is clearly having a hard time with it and we are only feeding the fire.

Like @BackDoc says, it’s incredibly easy to start now. I’m a relative newbie and I begun my journey 3 yrs ago and it was so easy then.

Best of luck to you @Caesar77 (good name). Attempt something similar to cigarette smoking until you get the hang of things. When it becomes thoughtless, comfortable and easy then you can decide whether your content with things or you want to upgrade to something different and a little more complicated.

As you can see. The guys here are more than happy to shoot the breeze about pretty much anything (vape related).
Ask away :)
 

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Dunno, but to me a dry hit, even at low watts burns like a bushfire.

I can totally understand that if the op keeps doing dry hits he can get a very bad throat.

Also to high a vape temp can also cause throat irritation.

Perhaps the coils are not the issue, but the wicking may be.

Too tight or too loose can cause issues with dry or high temp hits?

But yes, best in my mind to start with one possible symptom, and try to fix that, and then carry on with other problems, eventually one should find the cause.

But a dry hot hit from a burned coil makes me want to almost die!

And that was always because my watts were too high or my coils were too tightly wicked and the juice cannot keep up


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Why are we talking about hotspots, even spacing and heat distribution?
No wonder the guy thinks this is way too involved.

Buy a coil, screw in the coil, pour the juice, press the button, ta-da

I’ve been there and I know exactly how difficult the procedure is...

We got over to talking about it when discussing his building coils. You're right dropping a coil in a tank is simple and the best way to start out for sure. After vaping a while though, many of us choose not to use tanks, prebuilt coils and/or coil heads.

Some of us just prefer dripping over tanks, some like to tinker, some don't want to spend money on coil heads. Then there's the people who like to change the resistance they are using multiple times a day for different flavors. Some people still prefer a mech mod and depending on type (mod) a lot of tanks aren't safe for them.

Then there's people liking certain wick material over other types, choosing to learn and use building in case of regulation. It's really no different than DIY, it's easier to just buy a liquid and vape but many choose to make their own (generally not right out of the gate though).
 

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Now, I really like to look into the stuff I'm getting into, and I spent a lot of time researching about vaping.But that's me, what person would be willing to spend so much time getting info just to quit smoking/start vaping?People wanna vape, no one wants to research so much stuff just to be able to basically inhale tasty vapor.Most people will have bad vaping experiences, vaping is way too difficult and in early stages that it seems to not be worth getting into because all you do is lose money.
I think of it like this, how much time did I invest into things like finding a lighter or running to the store, I can order a month+ worth of juice and have it delivered to my door for 50$.

Honestly, Just use the tank from the smok stick v8 on the mod that you have and get these coils.. They are dirt cheap and after going through abotu 30 of them I haven't got a dud. They vape great around 60w and last just over a week before I change them but probably could go longer...

$4.26 Replacement V8 BABY-Q2 Coil Head for SMOK TFV8 BABY Clearomizer (5-Pack) 5-pack - 0.4ohm (40-80W/BEST:55-65W) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping at 5$ a month it's not much more expensive than getting a couple bic lighters each month..

Headaches are a common side effect of quitting smoking, it took about 3 weeks of completely quitting smoking for them to go away, tylenol definitely helped.
 

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We got over to talking about it when discussing his building coils. You're right dropping a coil in a tank is simple and the best way to start out for sure. After vaping a while though, many of us choose not to use tanks, prebuilt coils and/or coil heads.

Some of us just prefer dripping over tanks, some like to tinker, some don't want to spend money on coil heads. Then there's the people who like to change the resistance they are using multiple times a day for different flavors. Some people still prefer a mech mod and depending on type (mod) a lot of tanks aren't safe for them.

Then there's people liking certain wick material over other types, choosing to learn and use building in case of regulation. It's really no different than DIY, it's easier to just buy a liquid and vape but many choose to make their own (generally not right out of the gate though).

I understand all those things. I’m currently pulling my heron V1 to bits with many tools and resetting it because I’m losing .1 of an ohm reading on my rdna which reads well. It may be the plate inside,possibly the positive post or maybe an insulator around that post or maybe the 510 has seen better days.
Once I’m done I’m going to take the silver plated contact off my paps and replace it with the copper as I prefer it.
Heron V1 on a paps V4 = mwa. I understand what you mean.

However, I think it is a better idea to simplify things to a guy in a beginner thread when said guy is having difficulties with rba toppers. Not begin to confuse him more by discussing heat distribution and the wicking difficulties he’s having.
A dry hit is one thing. Then we can help him set it up right.
Bleeding from your throat??
It’s my opinion that the guy needs relief from the mechanics of building for the time being
 

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Why are we talking about hotspots, even spacing and heat distribution?
No wonder the guy thinks this is way too involved.

Buy a coil, screw in the coil, pour the juice, press the button, ta-da

I’ve been there and I know exactly how difficult the procedure is...

I tried to encourage op to go this route back on page 2, but based on his response, seems drop in coils are not of interest to him. Wish him good luck with his building, but I can't help with that.
 

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I understand all those things. I’m currently pulling my heron V1 to bits with many tools and resetting it because I’m losing .1 of an ohm reading on my rdna which reads well. It may be the plate inside,possibly the positive post or maybe an insulator around that post or maybe the 510 has seen better days.
Once I’m done I’m going to take the silver plated contact off my paps and replace it with the copper as I prefer it.
Heron V1 on a paps V4 = mwa. I understand what you mean.

However, I think it is a better idea to simplify things to a guy in a beginner thread when said guy is having difficulties with rba toppers. Not begin to confuse him more by discussing heat distribution and the wicking difficulties he’s having.
A dry hit is one thing. Then we can help him set it up right.
Bleeding from your throat??
It’s my opinion that the guy needs relief from the mechanics of building for the time being

Agree 100% but he's jumped from plug and play to building. I think a lot has to do with age and such, 22 yr. old male. I remember that age, everything was a measuring contest, lol.
 

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I tried to encourage op to go this route back on page 2, but based on his response, seems drop in coils are not of interest to him. Wish him good luck with his building, but I can't help with that.

Oh ok. Fair enough then.
Me personally? Coughing up my own blood isn’t of interest to me.

Agree 100% but he's jumped from plug and play to building. I think a lot has to do with age and such, 22 yr. old male. I remember that age, everything was a measuring contest, lol.

Lol. Im only a bit older than him but closer to my 30s than my teens.
It’s a shame that vape is measured in volume by so many.
I’m not about that life.
 

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I think I would have been terrified in my twenties if ANYTHING I ingested (and I ingested many things) caused me to cough up blood. I can put up with some side effects but not coughing up blood.

With that said, it does appear the OP isn't interested in returning to drop in coils for the moment, but this is one of those (rare) times where a return to smoking may actually be safer. Maybe when his brain finishes branching and pruning, he can return to vaping in his 30s. I mean, he knows it's there, he's been offered aid of MANY sorts, and if vaping has to occur in an RTA, then I almost think it becomes an "If I can't make this work, I will return to smoking thing." Which is too bad, as with slightly more patience he might be able to make it work, and work in an exemplary fashion.

But you can't help someone who doesn't want the help.

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Agree 100% but he's jumped from plug and play to building. I think a lot has to do with age and such, 22 yr. old male. I remember that age, everything was a measuring contest, lol.
Love this post. :wub:

I'll be 64 in a few weeks. I love plug and play. K.I.S.S is my motto (Keep it simple, Stupid).

I've used ecigs, mech mods, regulated mods, bottom feeders, cartotanks, built my own coils for my tanks and drippers. Vaping has transcended light years from the degree of difficulty when I started in 2012.

I've recently become a LAZY VAPER. I've settled (that sounds negative, but its not meant to be) on using factory made coils for a clearomizer tank* and using that on a regulated mod. It's the best vape I've had in seven years. It's the easiest vape I've had in seven years.

* clearomizer and coil technology today has improved to the point that they rival rebuildable tanks IMHO. (at least the ones that I use)

I just want to vape without hassles. I adjust my vape as my self so desires. Vaping in 2018 can be as easy or as difficult as you want it to be.
 
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I've recently become a LAZY VAPER. I've settled (that sounds negative, but its not meant to be) on using factory made coils for a clearomizer tank and using that on a regulated mod. It's the best vape I've had in seven years.

Me too. I'll build my own when I run out of prebuilt heads. The dead ones are piling up, waiting for that day if it comes.
 

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I like rebuilding....anytime I think back to plug n play, I remember boiling cartos then sticking them in a tube sock for a 20 minute ride in the dryer. Then after all that work, the disappointment of the final result kicked in. They were never as good as new.
But single strand spaced coils are simple enough. I only run single coils anyway, so a new build and wick is only about 5 minutes. If I cared about clouds and fancy wires, I might have a different opinion. Being 50 is awesome!
 

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I'm the odd one that started with a evod and rebuilt them before my first pack of coils was gone. Still have the same ones I purchased ages ago. I build coils and make juice whenever the power goes out. Usually way more then I need between outages. A coil jig is a wonderful investment, can't believe I strained my thumb all that time holding the wire down tight over a $2 investment that makes perfect contact coils everytime with no effort whatsoever.
 

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I feel like people is straight calling me stupid and immature, but I think I have posted enough, even pictures, and I think it's easy to tell that I'm not clueless about the matter but I guess I'm just dumb, and no practice nor research will make me learn anything since my brain is not fully formed it seems.

Also seems that my decisions are all based on my immaturity and stupidity typical of my age. I feel like people isn't even reading the OP at this point.

I think I'm gonna keep trying by myself, all the good advice has been given already and now it's all about disagreeing with me and attacking me.

Thanks everyone.
 
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I apologize. Sometimes safety concerns cause, well, I apologize. I maintain that I'm worried and concerned. :(

Maybe this approach would be better.... What help, exactly, would be most beneficial to you? Would you like specific ideas for your build and wick, or what? Because you've been given lots of offers for help, so I'm a bit confused as to what type of help you would like?

Safety wise, my advice would be to return to your drop in tank. Perhaps you can find someone near where you live who can help you learn to build on an RTA safely? Some vape stores have employees that will do that. Perhaps that might work?

No one can magically tell you what is causing your symptoms though, even with pictures. It's not as simple as "this looks wrong" and wicking? Wicking took me a LONG time to master. So having trouble isn't unusual, but the degree of trouble you are having is concerning, and people DO want to help you, but I couldn't possibly offer a wicking/coiling suggestion based on what you've stated.

Anna
 
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