Vaping makes me tired?

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Katmar

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    Not to curb anybodies enthusiasm, but I'd read up vitamin D in particular before taking any large amounts of it. There are quite a few sources that say too much of it is not recommended.
    Not to mention that even I find it very easy to get enough of it out of food, and my eating habits are not exactly as recommended.

    You would have to take HUGE doses before it became toxic. I am speaking like 40,000ius per day for six straight months. There is NO case of toxicity in dosages even at 10,000ius per day.

    I might add that I am in a study group for D3 in high dosages since 05/09. Not one report of ANY toxicity.
    I am not sure what you are reading, but, please check your sources. And the only way you can get it out of your food would be to drink about 45 glasses of milk a day. There simply is not NEARLY enough D3 in our everyday diets.
    Our bodies use up appx. 5000ius per day.
     

    AlexTM

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    My dear, I merely suggested checking things before swallowing. Which is always a good idea. I do however refuse to get into any debates about the one and only right way to eat.

    I also refuse to believe that there is any supplement that is inevitable. Because if it were, how exactly did humans evolve without them? Exactly …

    You may freely believe otherwise.
     

    Katmar

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    Not to curb anybodies enthusiasm, but I'd read up vitamin D in particular before taking any large amounts of it. There are quite a few sources that say too much of it is not recommended.
    Not to mention that even I find it very easy to get enough of it out of food, and my eating habits are not exactly as recommended.

    My dear, I merely suggested checking things before swallowing. Which is always a good idea. I do however refuse to get into any debates about the one and only right way to eat.

    I also refuse to believe that there is any supplement that is inevitable. Because if it were, how exactly did humans evolve without them? Exactly …

    You may freely believe otherwise.

    What you also said was there are quite a lot of "sources" that say too much is not recommended. That is the part I disagree with, along with you being able to get enough from food. Simply not true. And I never asked you to get into a debate about the one and only way to "eat". Have no clue where you got that one.

    Vitamin D3 is NOT a vitamin, but a steroid hormone that our bodies need. What does evolution have to do with it? D3 comes mostly from sunshine, but, there are those of us who do not get enough because of the geographical area we live in, or any of a number of other reasons.
     

    littlelovemuffin

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    Tired is hardly the word......Exhausted, no energy, sleepy is more like it. I have problems waking up in the morning. Even after I force myself out of bed, it takes me an hour to wake up. I have been vaping 8 days and the more I do, the more I can't hardly move. I go from the computer to the bed and can hardly do much else.
    I didn't smoke cigarettes, I quit 2 years ago. I was chewing nicotine gum and addicted to that. So it has nothing to do with smoking and then quiting.
    Something we are inhaling is making us this way. Nicotine increases heart rate which speeds up our energy.
    What is in this making us so exhausted? I will give it 2 more days, then I am going back to chewing my gum...........
     

    V4Lis4me

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    OK,
    I did not read all of the posts here..... I admit that.

    Here is what I will say,

    Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin, which means that you can indeed retain too much of it!
    As opposed to a water soluble vitamin, which you will excrete the excess out in urine.

    Rule of thumb, fat soluble vitamin=toxicity possible
    water soluble vitamin= toxicity highly unlikely

    not to say that the levels of vitamin d to produce toxicity aren't extremely high, but the possibility does exist.

    Now back on vitamin d,
    yes, we as humans do produce our own vitamin d......
    from sunlight.
    Our vitamin d is synthesized in our bodies from cholesterol.

    So you do need cholesterol to make you own vitamin d. That is why people bunkered up in their houses up north for winter should have some vit d (and why lots of milk is fortified with it).
     

    V4Lis4me

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    straight from the mayo clinic,
    one of the most.... if not THE MOST.... trusted medical sources...

    Vitamin D: Safety - MayoClinic.com


    Side Effects and Warnings
    Vitamin D is generally well tolerated in recommended "Adequate Intake (AI)" doses. One study found a greater likelihood of daytime sleepiness for patients given vitamin D analogues.
    Vitamin D toxicity can result from regular excess intake of this vitamin, and may lead to hypercalcemia and excess bone loss. Individuals at particular risk include those with hyperparathyroidism, kidney disease, sarcoidosis, tuberculosis, or histoplasmosis. Chronic hypercalcemia may lead to serious or even life-threatening complications, and should be managed by a physician. Early symptoms of hypercalcemia may include nausea, vomiting, and anorexia (appetite/weight loss), followed by polyuria (excess urination), polydipsia (excess thirst), weakness, fatigue, somnolence, headache, dry mouth, metallic taste, vertigo, tinnitus (ear ringing), and ataxia (unsteadiness). Kidney function may become impaired, and metastatic calcifications (calcium deposition in organs throughout the body) may occur, particularly affecting the kidneys. Treatment involves stopping the intake of vitamin D or calcium, and lowering the calcium levels under strict medical supervision, with frequent monitoring of calcium levels. Acidification of urine and corticosteroids may be necessary.
    Pregnancy and Breastfeeding
    The recommended adequate intake for pregnant women is the same as for non-pregnant adults. Some authors have suggested that requirements during pregnancy may be greater than these amounts, particularly in sun-deprived individuals, although this has not been clearly established. Due to risks of vitamin D toxicity, any consideration of higher daily doses of vitamin D should be discussed with a physician.
    Vitamin D is typically low in maternal milk, and to prevent deficiency and rickets in exclusively breastfed infants, supplementation may be necessary, starting within the first two months of life.
    Methodology Dosing




    heres the background from the mayo clinic....
    Vitamin D - MayoClinic.com

    ..tab though it to see all you need to know on the vitamin.
     

    Bangers

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    My suggestion - exercise! I know that running/working out is the last thing you want to do when you're exhausted and tired but it is the best way to get your energy back. Go kill yourself at the gym and drink a lot of water. It might increase your short term exhaustion but it's a good kind of exhaustion and in the long run you'll have much more energy. You're clearing your lungs, do something with them.
     

    CaptJay

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    My brother says: I gave up smoking 4 years ago. I was tired all the time for weeks but it passed, slowly - how is that linked to vaping? I have never vaped or used any NRT so I think it is soley linked to giving up smoking. the doctor told me to get more excercise, drink more water and eat better. He wasn't worried by my symptoms once he knew I had given up smoking.

    He dictated that lol
     

    sheep

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    Just piping in to say "me too". Ever since starting to vape been feeling really really tired. Yawning right now actually. I think it's the nicotine, and the amount I'm inhaling. Planning to switch off to a no-nic vape in the evenings and see how that goes.

    All in all, I'd rather be tired than coughing my lungs out and stinking of smoke!
     

    Katmar

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    straight from the mayo clinic,
    one of the most.... if not THE MOST.... trusted medical sources...

    Vitamin D: Safety - MayoClinic.com


    No offense, but I have stated what the amounts would have to be to be toxic. The last known case of toxicity from D3 was from someone who took 42,000i.u.s PER day for 7 months. In this case, the person was treated and is fine. So, although it CAN be toxic, you would have to take at least that much each and every day. My suggestion is 2000-5000 i.u.s a day, AND you can have a simple test, called 25(OH)hydroxy to see what your levels are. Most of us are deficient.

    I am in a study for D3, along with thousands of other folks, all taking high doses with NO side effects, well, 2 pee more, and great benefits.

    Mayo Clinic is a great place, but they are NOT the most trusted medical source.
    There is no great profits to be had in vitamin d3. It is very cheap to manufacture.

    Millions of people are treated with 50,000i.u.s once a week for deficiencies, and the older we get, the harder it is to absorb.
     
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    Katmar

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    OK,
    I did not read all of the posts here..... I admit that.

    Here is what I will say,

    Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin, which means that you can indeed retain too much of it!
    As opposed to a water soluble vitamin, which you will excrete the excess out in urine.

    Rule of thumb, fat soluble vitamin=toxicity possible
    water soluble vitamin= toxicity highly unlikely

    not to say that the levels of vitamin d to produce toxicity aren't extremely high, but the possibility does exist.

    Now back on vitamin d,
    yes, we as humans do produce our own vitamin d......
    from sunlight.
    Our vitamin d is synthesized in our bodies from cholesterol.

    So you do need cholesterol to make you own vitamin d. That is why people bunkered up in their houses up north for winter should have some vit d (and why lots of milk is fortified with it).


    Milk does not contain enough vitamin d. You would have to drink appx. 40-45 glasses per day!!

    Vitamin D Deficiency and Statin Drugs

    This article is not just about statin drugs and vit. d, but sort of an overall picture of the problem.
     

    bjc

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    No, that's a really bad idea.
    And wrong information. Sorry

    The referenced article is meaningless. At least, without reading the for-pay paper, I can make neither heads nor tails of the complaint other than "16 experts," which has no value and a list of three potential ailments without any accompanying data.

    FWIW, well over 16 experts believe that MMR vaccines cause autism, and that's complete bunk.
     

    Katmar

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    The referenced article is meaningless. At least, without reading the for-pay paper, I can make neither heads nor tails of the complaint other than "16 experts," which has no value and a list of three potential ailments without any accompanying data.

    FWIW, well over 16 experts believe that MMR vaccines cause autism, and that's complete bunk.

    I will try to find a non pay article for you. However, you can get vitamin A toxicity much quicker than D. That is why I don't think cod liver is the easy answer for getting D3. JMHO

    You say that MMR vaccines cause autism is complete bunk. Actually, there is no definite proof EITHER way. All they are saying is there is no definitive proof as yet. Research is ongoing.
     
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