Vaping vs Smoking Equivalent Nicotine Intake - Does Vaping Cause Way Higher Nicotine Intake?

[Nancy D]

Well

I just KNEW... WTA's would get brought up!!

Not going to provide any research myself. Enough of that is posted.

But here's the deal. Are you jittery? Waking up in a cold sweat? Getting dizzy with a headache? Can't sleep?

If your answers to all of those is NO, then you're doing good.
If you can answer any of them with a YES, then, you may need to lower your nic some how.. or see you Doc to find out what is really wrong!

Hey, I bought them when I just stopped smoking and thought I was losing it. Supposed to help with quitting et al.
Aside from tasting like not great BBQ sauce, I didn't get any ah-hh-hh I feel great thing from them.
I got some NETs and they're great, btw. Bought them for the taste of tobacco, not alkoloidal goodness btw.
Have a good one.

 

[ChelsB]

Which brand(s) of net are the cleanest tasting in your experience?

I only tried that salt at whatever a juul is, so perhaps it's much different if I was to use it in my regular rtas at 20 watts. Regardless, I'm big on TH, so salts aren't for me personally. It's for those who need hi nic, but cant handle the TH that comes from freebase over 18mgs....I think salts are good, because before them people had to really change the inhale , going from mtl to dtl and use lower nic, but dtl a lot of it to get enough nic . Maybe there is some similarities between nets and WTA, because some nets I have tried also have a weird taste, like smokey campfire. I personally dont like those nets and besides that taste, they gunk coils fast. I prefer very clean nets that dont have that taste and luckily have found a few that are awesome.

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[Nancy D]

Which brand(s) of net are the cleanest tasting in your experience?

I got Kind Juice. They have a Tobacco Ridge line. I love them. But, $27 for 30 mls, ouch!

 

[ChelsB]

I got Kind Juice. They have a Tobacco Ridge line. I love them. But, $27 for 30 mls, ouch!

Thanks!
Yowza, ouch indeed!

 

[Coyote628]

This thread is too funny. From the OP to this last page. Too funny. But then, im easily amused. OP comes in throwing numbers around from some useless calculations about how much nic he thinks hes getting compared to smoking cigs. This subject itself is about as useless as trying to figure the difference between salts and freebase. Dude goes thru 30ml in 3 months and he thinks hes got a nasty nic habit. I totally get it new vapers come here looking for answers and advice. But folks like the OP who overthink the whole vaping thing exaust most of us when we try to explain how it works to help hard core tobacco users stay off cigs. If the OP ever does come back to the thread, all i have to say is stop overthinking and leave the mathematics for your work. You smoked a pack a week. Thats hardly nothing compared to those here who were putting in 2 packs a day. Comparing the amount of nic in vape vs cigs is a completely useless endeavor. The trick here is to use as much or little nicotine as you need to stay off cigs and to enjoy life smoke free. Ive been vaping now going on 2 yrs. Im playing around with pods now and very very high nic salt levels. I still sub ohm with 6mg but with the pod that i bought, im vaping upwards of 55mg juice (had to make it muself). Took pod to work yesterday an left my big mod at home. Vaped about a half ml all day. Math applies to vaping when you're building coils for a mech or when you're mixing juice but when you want to compare cigs to vaping, that is where you run down a rabbit hole and either never come back or show up with rabbit poop on yer face. Vape on!!

 

[kross8]

This thread is too funny. From the OP to this last page. Too funny. But then, im easily amused. OP comes in throwing numbers around from some useless calculations about how much nic he thinks hes getting compared to smoking cigs. This subject itself is about as useless as trying to figure the difference between salts and freebase. Dude goes thru 30ml in 3 months and he thinks hes got a nasty nic habit. I totally get it new vapers come here looking for answers and advice. But folks like the OP who overthink the whole vaping thing exaust most of us when we try to explain how it works to help hard core tobacco users stay off cigs. If the OP ever does come back to the thread, all i have to say is stop overthinking and leave the mathematics for your work. You smoked a pack a week. Thats hardly nothing compared to those here who were putting in 2 packs a day. Comparing the amount of nic in vape vs cigs is a completely useless endeavor. The trick here is to use as much or little nicotine as you need to stay off cigs and to enjoy life smoke free. Ive been vaping now going on 2 yrs. Im playing around with pods now and very very high nic salt levels. I still sub ohm with 6mg but with the pod that i bought, im vaping upwards of 55mg juice (had to make it muself). Took pod to work yesterday an left my big mod at home. Vaped about a half ml all day. Math applies to vaping when you're building coils for a mech or when you're mixing juice but when you want to compare cigs to vaping, that is where you run down a rabbit hole and either never come back or show up with rabbit poop on yer face. Vape on!!

My first thought was my 30mls a day likely send him into shock. Started at 24mg nic,,, now I'm 0 most of the time with visits to 3mg.

 

[vapdivrr]

Well


Hey, I bought them when I just stopped smoking and thought I was losing it. Supposed to help with quitting et al.
Aside from tasting like not great BBQ sauce, I didn't get any ah-hh-hh I feel great thing from them.
I got some NETs and they're great, btw. Bought them for the taste of tobacco, not alkoloidal goodness btw.
Have a good one.

I find heathers heavenly vapes are really clean, luv them....I think black note as well, but dont like their flavors anywhere near as much to hhv. I also heard about kind juice, but like black note, they only go up to 18mg which isn't quite high enough. Also with hhv, you get much more options. They are pricey however but with holiday sales and points you accumulate, it's not to bad

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[vapdivrr]

Yes, maybe, ordinarily.
I didn't suggest any dosage. I just suggested that if he feels like he's using too much to try using less.

Gotcha.....its the first time I ever seen anyone vape so little and worry so much

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[vapdivrr]

Can I ask what NETs you're using? I got a sample pack from Kind Juice and I like them a lot. No smoky bbq taste and they've been vaping clean so far.

I wanted to try Kind but at 18mg it's just a tad to low. I mainly vape Heather's heavenly vapes, been using them for a long time and find their nets really good. They are running 15 and 20 percent off for memorial day and offer sampler packs..if you join their newsletter, you get 20 percent off...plus every dollar you spend equates to points for your next purchase...dragons fire, huntsman, temptation, shadow are my usual favs..

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[DeloresRose]

Since I started vaping, I’ve seen dozens of threads just like this.

There’s a lot more misinformation than information to this very day.

How many mg are in brand X cigarettes (a new number every time you check) divided by how you smoke divided by how much is actually absorbed

Vs

How much nic is in your juice ( room for variables) divided by how you vape divided by nic degradation while being heated in an atty times how many mls per day divided by how much is absorbed by you, personally.

Maybe someone will come up with a calculator to assist those who are terrible OCD about all of this.

Me, I have a simpler approach. Like the coffee analogy. If I switch from one style to another, I could science and math myself into a deep depression.

Or... simply drink the new coffee. I’ll know when I’ve had enough. Just like I know when I’m full and can stop eating, or know when I’m cold, and throw on a jacket.

And similarly, it just takes a bit of getting used to, just as not being cold because I’m wearing a jacket does not function exactly the same as being comfortable in the ambient temperature without one.

 

[Rossum]

Math applies to vaping when you're building coils for a mech or when you're mixing juice but when you want to compare cigs to vaping, that is where you run down a rabbit hole and either never come back or show up with rabbit poop on yer face.

I'll say this: I suspect I have more nicotine in my system now than when I was smoking. I base this on how my system reacts to a piece of 4mg nicotine gum, which I use on those rare occasions when I can't vape (or formerly, smoke). Bottom line: That stuff used to hit me harder back when I was smoking 40+ ultra-lights every day than it does now that I'm MTL vaping ~60 mg of nic per day.

Do I care that I likely have more nicotine in my system now than I did when I was smoking? No, not at all. The god-awful smoker's cough I'd had for decades is gone, I have considerably more energy, and just feel all-around much better.

In fact, I would speculate that one of the secrets to successfully switching from smoking to vaping is to "saturate" your system with nic. Give it as much as it can take, then back off just a bit. It's a known fact that some of the other substances found in tobacco smoke (minor alkaloids & MAOIs) act in a synergistic manner with nicotine, increasing its effectiveness and addictive potential. Most vapor products (with the exception of WTA and NET liquids) are completely devoid of these substances, and one way to overcome that lack may be with higher nic levels in one's system.

 

[MyMagicMist]

Do I care that I likely have more nicotine in my system now than I did when I was smoking? No, not at all. The god-awful smoker's cough I'd had for decades is gone, I have considerably more energy, and just feel all-around much better.

I think that's all that matters for any of us. Do you feel better not smoking but vaping? Apologies too, my friend, I'm not ghosting you. You've just made a few points I can agree on or had conversation I can "hook" in, then step out.

Got a bad insomnia though I did rest a few hours. I probably watched too much science fiction crud again. Nope, take that back a western, Louis L'Amour based one that had Sam Elliot in it.

 

[Falconeer]

It always amazes me when some folk either get the bone between their teeth or mount up on their hobby horses and ride the poor things to death ... usually about very little!

I think we all know the symptoms of Nic Overdose and that if you drink gallons of water it mitigates them which keeps you that busy trotting back and forward to the toilet you don't have to worry about vaping 30 mils a month or whatever.

I can neither see what the OP's worrying about not why he needs to fester on about it ... unless of course The Officer wheeled the next one in while I was out yesterday!

 

[Vapntime]

It always amazes me....
Nicotine is the demon...
I wish I was like you, easily amused...

 

[Letitia]

It always amazes me....
Nicotine is the demon...
I wish I was like you, easily amused...

Just easier to ask us the same question over and over until they get the answer they're already looking for.

 

[Nancy D]

I wanted to try Kind but at 18mg it's just a tad to low. I mainly vape Heather's heavenly vapes, been using them for a long time and find their nets really good. They are running 15 and 20 percent off for memorial day and offer sampler packs..if you join their newsletter, you get 20 percent off...plus every dollar you spend equates to points for your next purchase...dragons fire, huntsman, temptation, shadow are my usual favs..

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Thank you, I was looking at HHV for NETs. The prices are great compared to KJ!
And thanks for the flavor recommendation! The sampler packs look good, but no nic in them?

 

[vapdivrr]

Thank you, I was looking at HHV for NETs. The prices are great compared to KJ!
And thanks for the flavor recommendation! The sampler packs look good, but no nic in them?

Oh that's right. Sometime ago they did that to the samplers....they use to do 4ml bottles with nic to try, but stopped...now 15ml is the smallest you can get with nic...

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[Nancy D]

Oh that's right. Sometime ago they did that to the samplers....they use to do 4ml bottles with nic to try, but stopped...now 15ml is the smallest you can get with nic...

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Grumble! But at $9 for 30mls, it's a third of the price of Kind!

 

[ChelsB]

Totally agree. That’s exactly why I started my husband at 18 mg last thanksgiving when he finally quit. He’s had 1 cigar since. I’m thrilled

I'll say this: I suspect I have more nicotine in my system now than when I was smoking. I base this on how my system reacts to a piece of 4mg nicotine gum, which I use on those rare occasions when I can't vape (or formerly, smoke). Bottom line: That stuff used to hit me harder back when I was smoking 40+ ultra-lights every day than it does now that I'm MTL vaping ~60 mg of nic per day.

Do I care that I likely have more nicotine in my system now than I did when I was smoking? No, not at all. The god-awful smoker's cough I'd had for decades is gone, I have considerably more energy, and just feel all-around much better.

In fact, I would speculate that one of the secrets to successfully switching from smoking to vaping is to "saturate" your system with nic. Give it as much as it can take, then back off just a bit. It's a known fact that some of the other substances found in tobacco smoke (minor alkaloids & MAOIs) act in a synergistic manner with nicotine, increasing its effectiveness and addictive potential. Most vapor products (with the exception of WTA and NET liquids) are completely devoid of these substances, and one way to overcome that lack may be with higher nic levels in one's system.

 

[vapdivrr]

Grumble! But at $9 for 30mls, it's a third of the price of Kind!

That might be 9 bucks for 15mls....I now only buy 100mls at a time, so I forget what 30mls costs

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