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When you talk about risk of forming new chemicals you're obviously not talking about intermolecular bonds.
Basically, do you think that the Landlord has a legal contract with you (even a verbal one), and that you won't/can't vape inside without permission?
Does the lease discuss vaping or just tobacco use (smoking)? It is not smoking. Period.
So this is about "getting permission" from the landlord?
Best bet is to vape outside.
The next smartest money was on the guy that said "Move and don't bring it up next time."
Next best bet is vape in 1 room anyway and consider blocking off the furnace there or use a real good furnace filter. But you MAY break your word then, depending on exactly what you said. However, depending on the conversation and the lease you may not be bound by strict no-vaping policy if you think it truly does no harm and are willing to scrub walls/repaint before you move out (in that one room).
I like the "use air fresheners" idea. Keep a can on the counter. Blame cooking odors or whatnot.
My experience is that vapor residue dries and basically dusts off eventually...like off tabletops. On many surfaces, anyway. However, the ones that get continual moisture (like condensation on a windshield...no. Film. Also, VG makes more film than PG.) I'm running a clean paper towel around my computer desk. Some stray dust
blush but no "film". And this is where I vape the most, for a couple years now. Could vary by juice recipe I suppose.
Not an attorney.
Does the lease discuss vaping or just tobacco use (smoking)? It is not smoking. Period.
So this is about "getting permission" from the landlord?
Best bet is to vape outside.
The next smartest money was on the guy that said "Move and don't bring it up next time."
Next best bet is vape in 1 room anyway and consider blocking off the furnace there or use a real good furnace filter. But you MAY break your word then, depending on exactly what you said. However, depending on the conversation and the lease you may not be bound by strict no-vaping policy if you think it truly does no harm and are willing to scrub walls/repaint before you move out (in that one room).
I like the "use air fresheners" idea. Keep a can on the counter. Blame cooking odors or whatnot.
My experience is that vapor residue dries and basically dusts off eventually...like off tabletops. On many surfaces, anyway. However, the ones that get continual moisture (like condensation on a windshield...no. Film. Also, VG makes more film than PG.) I'm running a clean paper towel around my computer desk. Some stray dust
blush but no "film". And this is where I vape the most, for a couple years now. Could vary by juice recipe I suppose.Not an attorney.
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I've been through this issue repeatedly with my apartment manager over a 12 year period. He know I smoked when I moved in, as did the majority of the tenants, but still made his displeasure known in subtle ways ...
I had completely scrubbed and repainted the walls and ceilings three times myself, at my own expense, with permission from the property owner. Then I got smart and started using a portable steam cleaner, it removed surface residue and refreshed the paint in between paint jobs ...
The last time I steam cleaned the walls in July, I saw absolutely no brown tar residue on the steam cleaner pad, and none in the cotton cloth pads sued to wipe off the excess moisture. I mean absolutely NONE. This was after I had stopped smoking but vaped frequently indoors, without any filtration system and often with the windows closed. I'm convinced there is no detectable impact on the wall or ceiling surfaces from vaping. Any deposits are from normal household activities, cooking, showering, breathing, etc ...
In the car, there are always deposits on the windows from the outgassing of plastics and other synthetics used in the interior components. Even non-smokers have to clean the windows occasionally ...
There was certainly a noticible amount of brown residual deposit, especially on the windshield, when I smoked in the car. Now I see only the thin grey film that is typical for modern materials used in auto construction ...
I've told my apartment manager that I'm no longer a smoker, and his concerns about "damage" are no longer relevant. Even the residue from tobacco smoking is resolved by a coat of paint, something that is typically done between tenants anyway ...
Its like the "second-hand smoke" drama, much ado about nothing ...
i think i said that back there somewhere.
Best of luck with your landlord OP!! I will like to add that I have a couple sports cars that don't get much driving time and have never been smoked in and if I go a couple months and drive the car, there is a "haze" that is on the inside of the windshield. Someone earlier mentioned this being the materials being used or something but the haze or residue can occur on the interior glass without smoking or vaping inside the vehicle. So.....I'm not totally convinced that the residue or haze on the glass in an automobile is 100% vapor residue IMO!!
Every non-smoker, never-smoker I know has to wash buildup off their windshields. It's from breathing, period. The traffic we breathe is healthier than the days of old, but it's still grimly.
Smokers are used to washing thick yellow disgusting buildup off and assumed that non-smokers always have pristine windshields. Nope. We all have exhale buildup, emissions buildup, dust, and now vapor.
To test for anything else, you'd need a totally controlled lab environment to confirm or disprove your home lab findings. A mirror, a shard of glass, a closed container and a vapor.
Here is a neat test onto Kleenex. We could always go far as to cut the jug in half, set glass inside, tape jug back together, ... Maybe use a vacuume of some kind instead of water..
ECCR Xtra: Tobacco Smoke vs. Vapor - YouTube
Smokers are used to washing thick yellow disgusting buildup off and assumed that non-smokers always have pristine windshields. Nope. We all have exhale buildup, emissions buildup, dust, and now vapor.
To test for anything else, you'd need a totally controlled lab environment to confirm or disprove your home lab findings. A mirror, a shard of glass, a closed container and a vapor.
Here is a neat test onto Kleenex. We could always go far as to cut the jug in half, set glass inside, tape jug back together, ... Maybe use a vacuume of some kind instead of water..
ECCR Xtra: Tobacco Smoke vs. Vapor - YouTube
I had a landlord that told me to stop cooking fish as other people complained. He also told the couple that lived downstairs to stop barbequing outside because of the smell too. I got in trouble twice for making too much noise and I wasn't even home at the times this happened and once for not bagging my trash in a green heavy duty bag (I just used a white one). Needless to say, I didn't live there very long.
Vaping does build up residue. I have to pull the glass off my iMac every few weeks to clean it. I also try not to blow the vapor at my computer. I will try to take a pic of it. I need to clean it again.
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This was before I moved to Florida.
I was out so didn't get back to this thread before now.
Interesting that theory about breathing causing this very light buildup... Makes sense. I think I will clean my car windows tomorrow then only blow the vapor at the side window and see if there is any build up. If it does cause this, it will do it very quickly since the side window is right there with hardly any space between me and the window.
Yep, now I have to test this out!
Install a small window fan pointed outwards.
Install a not-so-small ACLU window sticker ponted outwards.
I get a crazy amount of residue on my car windows. I mostly vape with the windows up and need to clean the windows daily.
This is really odd how some people get a residue and others don't.
Maybe there's something else at play here. Liquid contents, device, vaping style, environmental, etc.
Between laptop and desktop I'm always on a computer and I work at home so there is no daily time away.
Maybe there's something else at play here. Liquid contents, device, vaping style, environmental, etc.
Between laptop and desktop I'm always on a computer and I work at home so there is no daily time away.
I am not allowed to smoke in my apartment either. I've never discussed with the landlord if this means vaping - but I don't want to deal with it so I just go outside. But I had the same fears about smell and residue as you do. Outdoors is just easier.
Couldn't you just blow the vapor into a wad of tissue or something? That would collect any of the possible residue before it ever got a chance of hitting a wall or anything.
I once tried something along these lines to see what would happen, and a lot of vapor went through and around the tissue. *shrug*
Yes, but I'll bet the larger molecules stayed IN the tissue and just the vapor went through.
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