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I am really debating getting the new VS. I like the compact size, but I think they just went too small.
For some of us, part of the attraction of the VS *is* the small form factor. :D

There already are devices in the niche I am looking for, the problem is that the VS does it at a very competitive price point. I mean a VS for 160 vs a Hana for 250? Let's be serious, I don't care what hardware went into it but there is no way that price is not without some serious markup. Maybe it's all in the small scale handbuilding vs "mass produced", who knows.
I own both. Comparing them:

The Hana is machined from a solid block of aluminum; this requires relatively little up front cost, but is expensive on an incremental, per-unit basis. The VS is a casting. I'm not sure what the exact casting technology they're using is called. In any case, casting is expensive up front (making the mold or die or whatever), but once that investment has been made, the incremental cost of making more of them is quite low. The Hana has three expensive-feeling off-board switches. The VS has one cheap-feeling (at least on the older ones) fire switch and uses the dna's on-board switches for the Up/Down functions.

The full-sized Hana is *much* bigger than a VS. The Hana does not make very efficient use of space inside, whereas the VS is packed about as tightly as can be. Part of the reason is that the Hana accommodates an easily user-replaceable.

The VS gets lots of pocket time. If I scratch it, oh well. The Hana remains sitting safely on my desk, partly because I don't want to scratch it, and partly because it's just so darn bulky.

Here's a pic with both (and a Protovapor XPV as well):

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We need a Kayfun type rebuildable in about 19mm. I would be happy with a 2.5-3ml capacity if they can make that happen.
Somebody already mentioned the Aerotank. That's what I run on my VS (see pic in my previous post). And of course the heads in them CAN be rebuilt. I don't bother trying to do dual coils in them, IMO, that's hype. I use a 5/64" ID "micro coil" and wick it with cotton. IMO, this vapes better than the stock dual-coil head. It's also more travel-friendly than a Kayfun, because you don't have to drain the tank to re-wick the coil.

All that said, I'd buy a 19mm Kafun in a New York Second. The Aerotank produces a decent vape, but it's no Kayfun. :D
 

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We need a Kayfun type rebuildable in about 19mm. I would be happy with a 2.5-3ml capacity if they can make that happen. I know, there's the Kayfun mini, if you can get one, but it is about the same diameter of an ego, too thin in my opinion, I would be OK with 17mm to also use in 14500 mods, but about the same length of the KFL.

Get a Spheroid. Most 14500 mods are 16mm, not 17mm. The Penelope is 17mm and sticks out on my Temon 14500.

Spheroid is 16mm, holds 3ml, allows you to rebuild without draining juice, accepts micro-coils easily and is IMO a fantastic atomizer. I own two, and they're basically all I use. I have a Kayfun Lite that sits empty, because it's a pain to fill compared to the Spheroid and holds only about 1-1.5ml more, and I can't rebuild the K-lite without draining the juice.
 

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My status is vs called me on Monday I switched to USB from magnetic charging. I got my tracking the same day, nothing in the mail today, maybe tomorrow.

Has your tracking updated? I did the exact same thing and tracking has never updated. Called and emailed, and they say they double checked and it shipped.
 

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Hey good idea, just went ahead and ordered the Spheroid. I have an odd question. What kind of noise level does the Spheroid put out. Compared to say a Kayfun Lite or anything else you have. I will be stealth vaping and need near silence. The Kayfun is quiet enough but my drippers are way too loud for example. If its too loud Ill still have plenty of use for it on my pipes so Im not overly concerned but if its quiet it will be my VS mate for sure.
 

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The Spheroid's airflow is through two holes directly above the 510 threads, like a cartomizer, so it's about as noisy as a cartomizer, meaning not very noisy at all. Much quieter than the K-lite with its exposed large-ish airhole, and quieter than my only dripper, a Cyclone with AFC.

A small caveat: the draw on a Spheroid is somewhat tight. Some people don't like it, but I got used to it very quickly and it produces fantastic flavor due to the tight-ish draw and the tiny vapor chamber.
 

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does anyone else's tracking say Signature Confirmation? and does that mean if no ones here to sign for it that they wont deliver it

Yes and yes. Here they leave a slip if no one's home that gives you the choice of re-delivery, or you can pick it up the next day at the post office.
 

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Get a Spheroid. Most 14500 mods are 16mm, not 17mm. The Penelope is 17mm and sticks out on my Temon 14500.

Spheroid is 16mm, holds 3ml, allows you to rebuild without draining juice, accepts micro-coils easily and is IMO a fantastic atomizer. I own two, and they're basically all I use. I have a Kayfun Lite that sits empty, because it's a pain to fill compared to the Spheroid and holds only about 1-1.5ml more, and I can't rebuild the K-lite without draining the juice.

I have a 14500 bagua clone that is 17mm. Spheroid is another one that insterests me, but I haven't been driven to hunt for it. I know it's not a big deal, and it's probably just me being too picky, but I don't want to have to go back to using filler material.
 

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For some of us, part of the attraction of the VS *is* the small form factor. :D


I own both. Comparing them:

The Hana is machined from a solid block of aluminum; this requires relatively little up front cost, but is expensive on an incremental, per-unit basis. The VS is a casting. I'm not sure what the exact casting technology they're using is called. In any case, casting is expensive up front (making the mold or die or whatever), but once that investment has been made, the incremental cost of making more of them is quite low. The Hana has three expensive-feeling off-board switches. The VS has one cheap-feeling (at least on the older ones) fire switch and uses the DNA's on-board switches for the Up/Down functions.

The full-sized Hana is *much* bigger than a VS. The Hana does not make very efficient use of space inside, whereas the VS is packed about as tightly as can be. Part of the reason is that the Hana accommodates an easily user-replaceable.

The VS gets lots of pocket time. If I scratch it, oh well. The Hana remains sitting safely on my desk, partly because I don't want to scratch it, and partly because it's just so darn bulky.

Here's a pic with both (and a Protovapor XPV as well):

Mzem3gw.jpg

It seems that someone enjoys DNA devices quite a bit! That Hana is something special!

I recently bought an aerotank base for my protank 2 to try out, since I used to rebuild the heads, and figured try to resurect them for the VS. By the way, is that the new KFL+ new version on that Hana?
 

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It's here! I finally got a tracking number and was pleasantly surprised to see that it was out for delivery today, but I had to go to work and wasn't going to be home to sign it. I spotted the mailman down the road from my house, and was able to get him to dig through his stacks and find it for me. Crappy pics (I could have at least cleaned off my crusty drip tip), but ah, pics or it didn't happen. This is the DNA30 in gunmetal. So far, I love it. It's even smaller than I expected, and very solid feeling. The spring loaded 510 connector is awesome, there is zero wobble with the Russian on it. We'll see how the finish holds up, but as of now, it looks amazing, very high quality. The laser etched logo adds to the high end feel, it's not going anywhere. I have yet to give it a full charge and see how long it can last me on a normal day, but I bought it knowing I could easily top it off during the day. Very satisfied so far.

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It seems that someone enjoys DNA devices quite a bit!
Yes indeed. The VS was my first DNA mod and it started a trend. FWIW, all three are DNA 20s and I feel no need to upgrade them to 30s.

That Hana is something special!
The Hana is indeed the best looking of the bunch. But for me, it's also the least practical of the three. I doubt I would have bought it new, but it was listed in the classifieds here for under $200\, and I simply couldn't help myself at that price. :D

That Hana is something special!
I recently bought an aerotank base for my protank 2 to try out, since I used to rebuild the heads, and figured try to resurect them for the VS. [/quote]
I came across the Aerotank at a B&M right after the Aerotank hit the market and bought it on a whim. After using it for a week, I decided I liked it enough that I went back and bought a spare. I have not actually tried reviving either of my PT2s with an Aero base, but I'm confident the Aero base would fix most of the PT2's shortcomings.

By the way, is that the new KFL+ new version on that Hana?
Yes, it is. 2014-02 production, bought from Vaperev.
 
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