Ok, I will try to post some thoughts when mine arrives. I did get their charger base...meanwhile the xpv arrives today...I have begun stalking....
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Ok, I will try to post some thoughts when mine arrives. I did get their charger base...meanwhile the xpv arrives today...I have begun stalking....
(sent from Mars, it's not as red as I imagined.)
The convenience of integrated wireless charging is one of the most enticing for me on the new rDNA. So what if I have to replace a 10 dollar battery after a year or two... Wireless charging has been around in mobile tech for a while with no ill effects.
Isn't the normal life span of these batteries one or two years? We were talking about increased heat reducing that life. I know very little about batteries myself, but I would assume that having a cellphone with a constant output would be different then something that allows you to push a huge amount of power out of it. Keep in mind that I know very little about this stuff though. We don't talk about cellphone battery safety, but we do about using batteries in ecigs.
Ok, I will try to post some thoughts when mine arrives. I did get their charger base...meanwhile the xpv arrives today...I have begun stalking....
(sent from Mars, it's not as red as I imagined.)
Thanks, I appreciate it and I am stalking the Opus 40D...
I've been using wireless charging on my Nexus 7 for over a year and it lasts just as long as it did when new. My S3 used an add-on coil just like what VS is selling for it's current DNA and rDNA but it sat inside the battery compartment and that was fine for a few months before I upgraded to a G2. The G2 has built-in wireless charging (from VZW only) and it's been about 9 months(?) and no issues with battery life.
I guess I'd worry about that too -- if the battery weren't replaceable.
The Nexus 7 battery isn't replaceable but I'm not worried about it.
When I first got the Nexus 7, I thought it was gimmicky but the round puck charger was cheap enough to try out. I liked it a lot but it was difficult to find the sweet spot on such a big tablet (comparatively speaking) and a small puck. I did some research and the Tylt Vu was highly recommended but expensive for what it was. I found a discount code so it made it a bit easier to make the decision to buy it. I think it's worth the full retail price since it uses 2 charging coils to make it more compatible with more devices and it works great with the 3 devices I've tried on it.
My S3 used basically the identical charging coil as VS is selling. No issues at all. It can get warm while charging sometimes but not to the point that would make me worried.
Yep. That is another feature that was a deciding factor to get the rDNA 40. Wireless charging is so convenient that when I need to charge my phone in my truck, it's annoying to have to plug it in. It's getting harder every day to wait for reviews, I might just pre-order it.
I might have to rig something up in my truck with a wireless charging puck. Most of them uses a standard microUSB port for power.
The typical 18650 battery can go up to 500 cycles. If you charge when it's half full (or half empty), those cycles double to 1000. If you charge a 50% battery to full every day, it should last about 3 yrs.
If this tech was a battery killer, do u think it would still be around (because it's been around a long time) it is specifically designed for things with batteries in it... I don't there is a problem here unless the heat is getting to the point where you can't pick up the device comfortably
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I know very little about this stuff, but I don't know anyone that actually uses wireless charging with their electronic devices. I do know that heat reduces battery life, that is why cellphone manufactures suggest that you not leave your phone in your hot car. I bought a Belkin charger for my phone and it was making my iPhone really hot, so I don't use it anymore. Problem is that Apple doesn't make a car charger, so now I have to do some research into a new charger for that. I would think that comparing a cellphone battery to a battery used in a ecig capable of pushing out 40 watts of power would not be a fair comparison, but not sure. Does the power put out in a cellphone fluctuate or go to high wattages like a ecig? I would like to better understand the technology behind these batteries and chargers. I would assume due to Evolvs extensive safety features that there is inherent danger in the use of these batteries in this application with heat of the battery being one of them.
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The only time my phone gets warm past the point of being noticeable, still not troubling, is if I get lazy and toss it and it loans half on the sweet spot, it's like it's gotta try harder to charge and gets a lithe warm, I love qi!
So, you think it has to do with the placement? Maybe a larger pad would fix that?
Efficient wireless charging was first introduced to the consumer market in 2006. In 2009, Palm introduced the Touchstone wireless charger for the Pre. IEEE formed an alliance to standardize wireless charging in 2012 and Qi wireless charging was that standard. Nexus 4, Droid DNA, Droid 3 and 4 all supported Qi wireless charging since 2012.
Wireless hasn't been around that long, 5 yrs. 2 yrs in more main stream devices but there hasn't been any dangerous risks involved. There are disadvantages to wireless charging but not any that are dangerous to the end user or device. There is no adverse effects to the batteries. The benefits of convenience and wear and tear to the microUSB port outweigh the disadvantages of a little more heat, slower charging (10-15%) and not as efficient as direct contact.
I've been in the tech industry for over 20 yrs and am very skeptical of new technologies and company claims. I've learned that I don't like dealing with the problems with bleeding edge technology. Some might even say I'm a luddite and slow to accept new technologies. If I never got a Nexus 7, I probably wouldn't be using wireless charging now but I'm really glad I did.
It's normal to be afraid of the unknown but don't try to say it's dangerous or harmful w/o knowing facts. Do some research and you'll find that Qi wireless charging is almost the same as charging from a plug, just not as efficient. Battery type doesn't matter.
Wireless hasn't been around that long, 5 yrs. 2 yrs in more main stream devices but there hasn't been any dangerous risks involved. There are disadvantages to wireless charging but not any that are dangerous to the end user or device. There is no adverse effects to the batteries. The benefits of convenience and wear and tear to the microUSB port outweigh the disadvantages of a little more heat, slower charging (10-15%) and not as efficient as direct contact.
I've been in the tech industry for over 20 yrs and am very skeptical of new technologies and company claims. I've learned that I don't like dealing with the problems with bleeding edge technology. Some might even say I'm a luddite and slow to accept new technologies. If I never got a Nexus 7, I probably wouldn't be using wireless charging now but I'm really glad I did.
It's normal to be afraid of the unknown but don't try to say it's dangerous or harmful w/o knowing facts. Do some research and you'll find that Qi wireless charging is almost the same as charging from a plug, just not as efficient. Battery type doesn't matter.
Yeah there's a sweet spot, but also qi's are generally rated by how many coils they have, well must get by with a single coil, some have 3, I doubt there anything sub par in your case a bit of heat is normal but you may have better results if you are sure your on the sweet spot. With the phone it turns on and off when is removed or set on the pad so you can tell where the center is by moving it around.
Inherent danger of the batteries used in this application, not the QI charging. I am like you are especially when safety is concerned. The problem is I was unable to find any research data on wireless charging in the application of ecigs, because it is not being adapted by other companies distributing ecigs like VaporShark is.
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Battery charging isn't any different on high discharge batteries. Qi wireless chargers charge batteries the same way. In the case of VS, the Qi adapter plugs into the microUSB port just like a regular corded power supply except it's plugged in all the time. The only time it actually charges is when the coil comes in close proximity to a charging coil. Think of it as an extension cord plugged into your toaster. When the other end of the extension cord isn't plugged in anywhere, the toaster doesn't get power. When it's plugged in, you get power (charging). The extension cord has some loss due to the length (wireless coil to coil).
The reason the ecig industry hasn't used it before is because they're not that innovative in the power department. Even cell phone companies haven't widely accepted Qi charging. VS is thinking out of the box with wireless charging and I think its great.
It has been around for longer than that. Electric toothbrushes have used this since the early 1990's.
I have a rechargeable sonicare toothbrush- been using the same battery for the last 12 years! Granted I only use the thing for 5 minutes per day ... but the rest of the time it sits on the charger/cradle. Inductive charging is definitely proven tech.
Heh.
If you want to be technical, wireless power transfer was around in 1891 when Tesla (some smart dude) was able to transmit AC power over thin air.
That's true. He was a genius.Heh.
If you want to be technical, wireless power transfer was around in 1891 when Tesla (some smart dude) was able to transmit AC power over thin air.
I was thinking more about main stream devices.
Ah, good. Has anyone had any issues with the ribbon breaking like Phil Basardo did?
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