VaporShark rDNA

[buffalofloyd]

11 watts was more than enough for my nautilus mini and is adequate for my KFL but it's far from ideal for my magma and I've been looking at a couple of RBAs that reportedly do better with more watts. I don't think my mvp is useless but it's not ideal and I'd rather not go too long with something that's less than ideal, I am considering toughing it out though and the magma is performing better since I dropped to a 1.4 ohm coil the other day.

I considered the istick briefly but I think if I get something it will be more along the lines of a vamo, I'd like to check out a tube mod anyway to see if I like the form factor. Since my main concern is the magma I have also considered getting an inexpensive mech clone to see what all the fuss is with them.

Honestly, the Vamo had it's moment in the sun already, and that was about a year ago or a little more perhaps. There are better and smaller options available. If you want a tube mod with more than enough power, get a Provari in the classies, I still think it's the best tube mod that's regulated out there, my opinion. The Vamo is too big in 18650 mode and in 18350 the same size as a Provari in 18490 mode if I remember correctly. My mom had two Vamo's and they are not built to last. The center pin is kinda janky.

Bare in mind the Provari and even a Vamo won't go below 1.3 ohms I believe. The construction is solid and I've never had an issue with mine and I own 2 and have driven them hard. I believe the istick will go down to 1.0 ohms. Seriously, the istick is a good mod for the price and small as hell. If you really must have a tube mod I'd say go for a Provari and then the VS so if you ever have a problem with the VS the Provari or even the istick is a solid back up.

I used a Provari exclusively for my first year of vaping, then for about a year and a half I only used mechs with Kayfuns. Now, going back to regulated with the advancement and innovation of the DNA40, I don't think I can go back to mechs. The VS is just too compact and feature rich to go back to unregulated vaping. So I'm a reconverted regulated vaper, for what it's worth.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Honestly, the Vamo had it's moment in the sun already, and that was about a year ago or a little more perhaps. There are better and smaller options available. If you want a tube mod with more than enough power, get a Provari in the classies, I still think it's the best tube mod that's regulated out there, my opinion. The Vamo is too big in 18650 mode and in 18350 the same size as a Provari in 18490 mode if I remember correctly. My mom had two Vamo's and they are not built to last. The center pin is kinda janky.

Bare in mind the Provari and even a Vamo won't go below 1.3 ohms I believe. The construction is solid and I've never had an issue with mine and I own 2 and have driven them hard. I believe the istick will go down to 1.0 ohms. Seriously, the istick is a good mod for the price and small as hell. If you really must have a tube mod I'd say go for a Provari and then the VS so if you ever have a problem with the VS the Provari or even the istick is a solid back up.

I used a Provari exclusively for my first year of vaping, then for about a year and a half I only used mechs with Kayfuns. Now, going back to regulated with the advancement and innovation of the DNA40, I don't think I can go back to mechs. The VS is just too compact and feature rich to go back to unregulated vaping. So I'm a reconverted regulated vaper, for what it's worth.

Istick goes to 1ohm and p2.5 to 0.9 and p3 to 0.8 or 0.7-just sayin. The amp limit is what gets you on provari.

 

[buffalofloyd]

Istick goes to 1ohm and p2.5 to 0.9 and p3 to 0.8 or 0.7-just sayin. The amp limit is what gets you on provari.

Yep yep, I think I do remember getting my Provari to fire a .9 ohm coil.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Honestly, I think everyone needs to relax- those who are happy as hell & those who are not.

The theme I'm starting to pick up here is no one, through no fault of there own, should be upset, mad, irritated or ...... off that they aren't rec'g what they paid for in the initial time frame set forth by VS because VS is such an awesome company.

I mean realistically, if many had known in advance it would be 30 business days from date of purchase prior to ordering, they could have made a different choice- but being that it was 15 days they went for it.

Many of the comments directed to or about those who are upset seem very demeaning considering they're coming from people who don't get it cause they already have one or two or three.

As far as checking for updates on FB, I said before- I didn't make my purchase via FB & that be the furthest thought from my mind- that I need to go there.

And as much as people diss ProVape if they had accepted your money and done things exactly as VS, people would be mad about that too.

 

[Brettanomyces]

Honestly, the Vamo had it's moment in the sun already, and that was about a year ago or a little more perhaps. There are better and smaller options available. If you want a tube mod with more than enough power, get a Provari in the classies, I still think it's the best tube mod that's regulated out there, my opinion. The Vamo is too big in 18650 mode and in 18350 the same size as a Provari in 18490 mode if I remember correctly. My mom had two Vamo's and they are not built to last. The center pin is kinda janky.

Bare in mind the Provari and even a Vamo won't go below 1.3 ohms I believe. The construction is solid and I've never had an issue with mine and I own 2 and have driven them hard. I believe the istick will go down to 1.0 ohms. Seriously, the istick is a good mod for the price and small as hell. If you really must have a tube mod I'd say go for a Provari and then the VS so if you ever have a problem with the VS the Provari or even the istick is a solid back up.

I was thinking out loud and mentioned the new 35 watt vamo because I had read good things about it, after a quick search it looks like it would be a bit more than I was expecting from a reputable(to me) stateside vendor. I don't want to spend much because I won't need it once the rDNA gets here and I had planned to decide on a main second device after having the rdna for a while. I figure that once I've had it for a while I'll know if I want even more watts or a moderate wattage high quality device like the P3.

I guess one can never have too many backups, it's just something I've been mulling over since they released info about the delay.

Edit: To be clear I'm not super upset about the delay(apparently due to unforeseen circumstances), just a little disappointed. I do think that they could have been more proactive in communication about the delay but they have been communicating with customers and were very helpful when I called on cyber monday to see if my original order had gone through.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Yep yep, I think I do remember getting my Provari to fire a .9 ohm coil.

Yeah mine fired a 0.8..once but the amp limit screws you up. At a 0.9 I don't think you can get over 3V to fire. Ypimreally need a 1.3-1.4 to get a good vape out of it. Its a great mod. If you like clears, kayfuns or tailfins... other than that its doing a great job at keeping the dust off that 22mm diameter spot on the shelf. Lol

 

[Fir3b1rd]

I was thinking out loud and mentioned the new 35 watt vamo because I had read good things about it, after a quick search it looks like it would be a bit more than I was expecting from a reputable(to me) stateside vendor. I don't want to spend much because I won't need it once the rDNA gets here and I had planned to decide on a main second device after having the rdna for a while. I figure that once I've had it for a while I'll know if I want even more watts or a moderate wattage high quality device like the P3.

I guess one can never have too many backups, it's just something I've been mulling over since they released info about the delay.

Edit: To be clear I'm not super upset about the delay(apparently due to unforeseen circumstances), just a little disappointed. I do think that they could have been more proactive in communication about the delay but they have been communicating with customers and were very helpful when I called on cyber monday to see if my original order had gone through.

If you're looking long term backup... bang for buck, and I hate sounding like and out n out fanboy but 99$ for the vsdna30 is an insane price. My daily grab is the DNA and rdna. Its a lipo but at 22-24w I get 4 hours chain vaping between Charges with just it. Its so small with a low profile dripper it cant be seen in my shirt pocket. That pic above that I posted is it with the rdna/black magma the vsdna30/silver magma. Then again you were thinking tube mod. And most of the higher wattage mods are boxes...

 

[Brettanomyces]

If you're looking long term backup... bang for buck, and I hate sounding like and out n out fanboy but 99$ for the vsdna30 is an insane price. My daily grab is the DNA and rdna. Its a lipo but at 22-24w I get 4 hours chain vaping between Charges with just it. Its so small with a low profile dripper it cant be seen in my shirt pocket. That pic above that I posted is it with the rdna/black magma the vsdna30/silver magma. Then again you were thinking tube mod. And most of the higher wattage mods are boxes...

Yeah I don't really want to spend much on something until I've tried out the higher wattage of the rdna so I know if it's enough for me, if I go to higher watts(big if) I'm assuming it will be a box mod. Getting a cheap tube mod might help me figure out if I like the form factor before plunking down $250 for a P3, then again I'm sure the P3 has a high resale value right now. I've only been vaping for a couple months, so I'm still trying to figure out what works best for me.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Yeah I don't really want to spend much on something until I've tried out the higher wattage of the rdna so I know if it's enough for me, if I go to higher watts(big if) I'm assuming it will be a box mod. Getting a cheap tube mod might help me figure out if I like the form factor before plunking down $250 for a P3, then again I'm sure the P3 has a high resale value right now. I've only been vaping for a couple months, so I'm still trying to figure out what works best for me.

Gotcha! if you have a good shop close to you, maybe see if they'll let you try out a few things to see what you think before making any expenditure. For me it was all trial and error, and I focused on accuracy. Now, with technology an SD, DNA and Provape are all equally accurate on the output, which gives you a nice variety. And with the DNA and sx chips they are just as accurate low as they are high. Innokin has the svd2.0 which is an interestingly shaped 20w tube mode for 80 bucks at 101vape. same wattage as the p3 for a substantially lower investment if you're looking at a trial also. It comes as a kit with tubes for a 350, 490 and 650 batteries. Trying to think of options.

 

[RebelGolfer72]

Honestly, I think everyone needs to relax- those who are happy as hell & those who are not.

The theme I'm starting to pick up here is no one, through no fault of there own, should be upset, mad, irritated or ...... off that they aren't rec'g what they paid for in the initial time frame set forth by VS because VS is such an awesome company.

I mean realistically, if many had known in advance it would be 30 business days from date of purchase prior to ordering, they could have made a different choice- but being that it was 15 days they went for it.

Many of the comments directed to or about those who are upset seem very demeaning considering they're coming from people who don't get it cause they already have one or two or three.

As far as checking for updates on FB, I said before- I didn't make my purchase via FB & that be the furthest thought from my mind- that I need to go there.

And as much as people diss ProVape if they had accepted your money and done things exactly as VS, people would be mad about that too.

... And some of the comments from people who are telling those who are upset to be patient, are people who waited an extra 15 days for a pre-order, and still got one with a bad dna board. We're we happy? No. But we also work in the corporate world, where there is a concept called supply chain...and there are multiple links,that can break...but to crucify someone downstream for the faults that happened upstream is a huge exercise in futility.
- If you walked into KFC for dinner, but they told you "it will be about a half hour or so before we can have any chicken....a truck took out a telephone pole, and we don't have enough power to run the fryers. But we can take your order, and your food will be up as soon as we can restart the fryer. 30 minutes goes by, and you don't have food, no one told you it would be longer,because they are doing everything they can to get things staged, so that when power is fully restored, you can have your food. So you go up and ask, and they tell you "power isn't back on, we were told, however that it definitely will be back on in another 2 minutes. Sorry for your trouble, so as a token of our appreciation for your patience, have a free drink on the house"... Would you walk out at that pin t go on the Internet, and blast KFC because dangit, they are just there getting rich off of your money,and are so shady, they just take the money and are not giving you your food...it's KFCs fault that you are not eating your dinner! Just as you would sound crazy for blaming the restaurant, who is trying to keep you happy for the situation that was out of their control...crying about VaporShark makes about the same amount of sense

 

[KimchiCuresEbola]

Better analogy would be if someone went into a kfc and was told there would be a 15 minute wait. The person orders and is waiting for his food. It's getting close to the 15 minutes and some people who ordered after this guy are already getting their orders....

The guy goes up to the counter and asks how much longer he should expect to wait. The worker matter-of-factly states that the frier is broken and it'll be at least 15 more minutes. But you know what... we'll throw in a couple of sauces for free.

If you don't want to wait you can cancel your order and go somewhere else. Only problem is that you have only 30 minutes to eat lunch each day.

This is a more accurate scenario.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

Better analogy would be if someone went into a kfc and was told there would be a 15 minute wait. The person orders and is waiting for his food. It's getting close to the 15 minutes and some people who ordered after this guy are already getting their orders....

The guy goes up to the counter and asks how much longer he should expect to wait. The worker matter-of-factly states that the frier is broken and it'll be at least 15 more minutes. But you know what... we'll throw in a couple of sauces for free.

If you don't want to wait you can cancel your order and go somewhere else. Only problem is that you have only 30 minutes to eat lunch each day.

This is a more accurate scenario.

So you get fired or in trouble at work if the mod doesn't show when you want?
Really?
Sweet baby Jeseus. Things happen out of our control; at least mine, seriously considering changing my name to Murphy.
If you do feel that way its a good thing you weren't a preorder customer. Or one of us that got the mod after waiting twice as long as expected, and helped everyone discover the board issue. That chicken would have been burnt in oil, tarred then re-feathered.
Then again I deal with technology on a daily basis and maybe knowing the science helps me be more understanding.
I would think after all the complaining of people wanting them to do a better job with QC, and the posts of "i'll wait longer if it means they'll do a better job with qc." ok..they listened now people mad about that.
Ummmm in the words of Tyler Perry..." Helluuuuuurrrr"
To reiterate the issue(repititious)
after the great preorder of 2014 VS learned, in a pavlonian way, to buy themselves as much time as possible in case another hiccup happened.
so lets see
...... off people for waiting a week longer than expected
...... off people for qc not going well enough
...... off people for doublings up on qc, and extending time given but making new deadline
its not like its a 6 month wait like when you order a fancy custom mod, wait 6 months then it shows up with a hairline scratch where the flux capacitor meets the power coupling.
is it a deal where people need to be ...... about something?
Or does anyone have a better option on how they can deal with this suppplier issue?
I'll take a 2piece with a biscuit wen red beans please ..
Is it just me or are some vapors only happy when they are mad about something???

 

[KTMRider]

I hate when I get a hairline scratch near my flux capacitor. I have to do 89mph then.

 

[NOVA jon]

I wasn't part of the pre-order but did have to return my first device because of the board issue. It sucked having to contact VS and let them know the problems I was encountering, reading as much as I could to make sure it wasn't something I was doing wrong or if it really was the device.

After several emails I returned it and waited for my new rDNA40. I wanted it to be back in my hands the next day but at the same time didn't want the same scenario of having to return a second unit.

If it takes a little longer to insure I get what I paid for, so be it.

It's easier to say that on this side of the fence because I have a fully functional device, and I truly understand the people that are now stuck waiting longer than originally anticipated but in reality, it sounds like VS is really trying to make things right and make sure the product that gets sent to everyone is correct!

Burning up the interwebz with bitterness about being unsatisfied with how a company is dealing with a faulty part of their product is a little crazy. If you want what they have and can wait for it, great. If you need something now, drop your order and look for something else that will get you where you need to be.

If you know this is what you want, knowing what you know about the delays and the steps VS is taking to ensure a quality product to the end user, then a few days longer isn't really that much to ask!

I do have a second one I ordered on cyber Monday so I'm waiting as well and I do want it yesterday!

 

[RandyF]

Better analogy would be if someone went into a kfc and was told there would be a 15 minute wait. The person orders and is waiting for his food. It's getting close to the 15 minutes and some people who ordered after this guy are already getting their orders....

The guy goes up to the counter and asks how much longer he should expect to wait. The worker matter-of-factly states that the frier is broken and it'll be at least 15 more minutes. But you know what... we'll throw in a couple of sauces for free.

If you don't want to wait you can cancel your order and go somewhere else. Only problem is that you have only 30 minutes to eat lunch each day.

This is a more accurate scenario.

Why is receiving your rDNA a time sensitive matter, other than impatience? It was already explained why a few people received theirs ahead of others, we know why it is taking longer than expected to ship them. At this point I think it is safe to say everyone understands. That doesn't mean you have to like it, or accept it for that matter, but I'm pretty sure we don't need any more analogies.

 

[caged]

Why is receiving your rDNA a time sensitive matter, other than impatience? It was already explained why a few people received theirs ahead of others, we know why it is taking longer than expected to ship them. At this point I think it is safe to say everyone understands. That doesn't mean you have to like it, or accept it for that matter, but I'm pretty sure we don't need any more analogies.

I'm impatient because I'm stuck on my backup mod, but I'm willing to wait -- especially if it means that all the issues are ironed out.

 

[RandyF]

I'm impatient because I'm stuck on my backup mod, but I'm willing to wait -- especially if it means that all the issues are ironed out.

I get it, I was irritated when the delayed the initial release a week. I was using a 15watt ZMax, with a button that only fired half the time, while waiting for my rDNA.

 

[caged]

I get it, I was irritated when the delayed the initial release a week. I was using a 15watt ZMax, with a button that only fired half the time, while waiting for my rDNA.

To be fair, my backup is a Manhattan mech clone which hits decent but doesn't have a lock for the firing button and as with all mechs, the vape is inconsistent since its not regulated.

On a side note, at what point does the vape quality suffer as the battery drains? Can you notice a drop off when the battery hits 3.7 volts like the Chinese mods?

 

[KTMRider]

To be fair, my backup is a Manhattan mech clone which hits decent but doesn't have a lock for the firing button and as with all mechs, the vape is inconsistent since its not regulated.

On a side note, at what point does the vape quality suffer as the battery drains? Can you notice a drop off when the battery hits 3.7 volts like the Chinese mods?

I've vaped down to less than 10% showing on the battery meter and there's no noticeable difference.

For everyone waiting - It's definitely worth the wait. The device is just amazing.

 

[alicewonderland]

i think people are just here to vent, it seems like the ones replying (people complaining about people complaining), are trying to do some jehovah witness conversion onto them to try to bring them to the other side.