Vaporshark releases the DNA 40 (DNA not rDNA)

[KTMRider]

I just think they missed the mark on price a bit. In the $100-120 range I would of gladly bought one as a back up to my rDNA 40 in case it ever needs to be sent in for repair. I'm loving the temp limiting so want another dna 40 device for backup. The smaller size seams great to take on the go or to work but if you add on the $25 for eventual battery replacement (I wouldn't do it myself) plus the shipping to send it in I may as well just order another rDNA that isn't all that much bigger. Being it's rough to shell out another $190 just for a back up I was thinking of getting one of the $60 dna 40 clones that could also be used as a night out device that could get beat up and I wouldn't mind so much. But $120 or under and I would have bought the authentic in a heartbeat instead.

At $160, it's the cheapest Evolv DNA40 device available. The LG battery should last at least a year of daily use before it needs to be changed out. LiIon batteries have a 300-500 charge cycle.

No wireless charging hurts.... If I buy another vaporshark in the near future, it will have to be the rDNA 40.

In fact I love the wireless charging so much that I don't think I'll buy another mod without it. So nice to just drop it down on my nightstand when I go to bed each night with a full charge each day.

I'm sure they'll come out with a wireless charging card for it. I thought I'd use my wireless charging more but I find it easier to just swap batteries with the magnetic door.

 

[stanleybb50]

At $160, it's the cheapest Evolv DNA40 device available. The LG battery should last at least a year of daily use before it needs to be changed out. LiIon batteries have a 300-500 charge cycle.




I'm sure they'll come out with a wireless charging card for it. I thought I'd use my wireless charging more but I find it easier to just swap batteries with the magnetic door.

I hear ya - I just leave mine exclusively in the shark skin though (which we of make using the card more viable I guess too though).

And also agreed on the longevity of the battery. I just figure I might as well spend the slight extra $ for the rDNA.

 

[Robinowitz]

Hi folks! Got a bit of BD $ to spend on vaping gear and am starting to do some research on VS. Perhaps you might be able to shed some light on a couple questions?

A brief history: I always buy Made in the US mods and have never been disappointed. I am a Reo enthusiast when at home but have not been able to get them to be pocket friendly enough for me. When out and about I use a tube and KFL. I have come to really enjoy how my mechanical mods work with my Kayfun V2. (Quick vapor, similar to smoking). I also like the smaller size (18350 in tube and Mini in the Reo. I've consider the P3 for the power boost (loyal P owner) but have come to like a smaller footprint recently. I'm not really into sub-ohming . I rarely reach 11. This may change (never say never) but I've been at my happy spot around 9 for a long time now.
That said:
Does the VS have anything like a power boost? Any comparisons from those of you who like mechanicals, VS, Kayfuns?
Appreciate any thoughts you might have.

 

[CBCstillmatic]

At $160, it's the cheapest Evolv DNA40 device available. The LG battery should last at least a year of daily use before it needs to be changed out. LiIon batteries have a 300-500 charge cycle.




I'm sure they'll come out with a wireless charging card for it. I thought I'd use my wireless charging more but I find it easier to just swap batteries with the magnetic door.

I'm not saying it's not a great mod and it probably is but for $30 more I don't have to ever worry about spending $25 later or buying a wireless card all to get the only advantage of a slightly smaller mod.

It's just in my opinion it could have been cheaper.


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[tc1]

I don't understand why they would even use a 18650 in this if it isn't user serviceable ... seems like a step backwards.

I mean the whole point of using 18650 vs LiPo is so that users can pop out the battery and replace it with a new one. Otherwise, LiPo is the way to go as you can maintain longer battery life per charge in relation to size difference in the actual cell.

 

[Croak]

Probably saves a few bucks going with a commodity 18650, for one thing. And most (not all, but most) people who don't understand the differences in battery chemistry would see 2500mAh and just assume it's more than twice as good as 1100mAh in the old unit, so it's an easier sell.

 

[Eric Auer]

Probably saves a few bucks going with a commodity 18650, for one thing. And most (not all, but most) people who don't understand the differences in battery chemistry would see 2500mAh and just assume it's more than twice as good as 1100mAh in the old unit, so it's an easier sell.

Educate me please?

Eric

 

[Croak]

Educate me please?

Eric

The old VSDNA30 had a LiPo battery, and LiPo is (generally) more efficient and can be discharged more than a Li-Ion 18650 before out of usable voltage.

In the case of most regulated DNA-based mods, an 18650 could have as much as 20% of its charge left (this varies based on the board), but not be able to output enough voltage for the mod to fire (low battery warning).

In a 2500mAh 18650 IMR battery, that means you're "wasting" as much as 500mAh capacity. A LiPo can (usually) go much lower on charge % and still provide usable voltage, so the gap between 1100mAh and 2500mAh isn't really 1400mAh, and that doesn't count for the greater efficiency of LiPo.

LiPo batteries also have a greater tendency to fail catastrophically, so there's that.

 

[dr g]

The old VSDNA30 had a LiPo battery, and LiPo is (generally) more efficient and can be discharged more than a Li-Ion 18650 before out of usable voltage.

In the case of most regulated DNA-based mods, an 18650 could have as much as 20% of its charge left (this varies based on the board), but not be able to output enough voltage for the mod to fire (low battery warning).

In a 2500mAh 18650 IMR battery, that means you're "wasting" as much as 500mAh capacity. A LiPo can (usually) go much lower on charge % and still provide usable voltage, so the gap between 1100mAh and 2500mAh isn't really 1400mAh, and that doesn't count for the greater efficiency of LiPo.

LiPo batteries also have a greater tendency to fail catastrophically, so there's that.

Latest generation 18650s have closed the gap a lot. The gap may not be that exact number, but between a 1100mah lipo and 2500mah high drain 18650 the gap is massive.

 

[Garemlin]

I agree the price is a little high. And the non-swappable battery isn't exactly practical. I will be able to justify the cost a bit more once they come out with a new coupon code though. But to me $25 to swap the battery out is better than constantly spending $50 on Chinese mods that will more than likely fail in less than a year. I'd rather have a quality device that will last many years than have to be constantly be trashing failing devices.

 

[Garemlin]

Another thing to consider with a LiPo battery option is it has to be specifically made for this device. Strictly proprietary. How long do they want to keep sourcing those out?? And how much would that affect the cost??? There will always be an abundant supply of 18650 batteries. And by the time you are ready to replace this one there are probably going to be better ones that they can put in.

 

[jmarkus]

replacing the lipo in my vsdna30 was a snap, and the batteries are easily found at hobby king...
Turnigy nano-tech 1200mah 1S 15C Round Cell

 

[SavePaperVapor]

I agree the price is a little high. And the non-swappable battery isn't exactly practical. I will be able to justify the cost a bit more once they come out with a new coupon code though. But to me $25 to swap the battery out is better than constantly spending $50 on Chinese mods that will more than likely fail in less than a year. I'd rather have a quality device that will last many years than have to be constantly be trashing failing devices.

lol. I agree with you but also find it funny that I have 3 mvp mods that still work and I've been through 3 DNA 40 devices until I gave up.

 

[Eric Auer]

The old VSDNA30 had a LiPo battery, and LiPo is (generally) more efficient and can be discharged more than a Li-Ion 18650 before out of usable voltage.

In the case of most regulated DNA-based mods, an 18650 could have as much as 20% of its charge left (this varies based on the board), but not be able to output enough voltage for the mod to fire (low battery warning).

In a 2500mAh 18650 IMR battery, that means you're "wasting" as much as 500mAh capacity. A LiPo can (usually) go much lower on charge % and still provide usable voltage, so the gap between 1100mAh and 2500mAh isn't really 1400mAh, and that doesn't count for the greater efficiency of LiPo.

LiPo batteries also have a greater tendency to fail catastrophically, so there's that.

Very helpful.

Thank You

Eric

 

[alistairs]

Does the VS have anything like a power boost?

"When the DNA 40 is used with a temperature sensing atomizer, an additional feature called Preheat is activated. No vapor is produced when the temperature is below the boiling point of the liquid. Preheat applies extra power until the heating coil is up to operating temperature to shorten the delay between pressing the fire button and generating vapor. Because the preheat is temperature based, it will not overheat or burn the vapor."

http://evolvapor.com/datasheet/dna40.pdf

 

[Heespharm]

Posted this in the wrong thread so I'll post it here

Got my dna 40 today

Comparison pics: rdna 40, dna 40, and dna 30 with a retrofitted dna 40 inside







Skin and internals






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[jmarkus]

Posted this in the wrong thread so I'll post it here

Got my dna 40 today

Comparison pics: rdna 40, dna 40, and dna 30 with a retrofitted dna 40 inside

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how long did it take to get? how do you like the new soft grip feel?

 

[Heespharm]

how long did it take to get? how do you like the new soft grip feel?

It's the same as the rdna... I bought it when they announced it around 6p so not long at all ~4days


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[stanleybb50]

It's the same as the rdna... I bought it when they announced it around 6p so not long at all ~4days


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Think that battery can be replaced with a little solder/effort?

It's impressively small on that side by side. More impressive than on paper.

I'm getting the bug to want another mod - haha. Trying to be patient as I've only had my rdna 40 for like 4 weeks! And only had my Provari 2.5 mini for like 3-4 months, but I got the itch! Haha

 

[Robinowitz]

"When the DNA 40 is used with a temperature sensing atomizer, an additional feature called Preheat is activated. No vapor is produced when the temperature is below the boiling point of the liquid. Preheat applies extra power until the heating coil is up to operating temperature to shorten the delay between pressing the fire button and generating vapor. Because the preheat is temperature based, it will not overheat or burn the vapor."

http://evolvapor.com/datasheet/dna40.pdf

Appreciate the info greatly Alistairs! Do I understand it correctly. In order to get a Kayfun to be a "temperature sensing atomizer" i would need to use nickel?
Just wanting to make sure that I'm looking at a purchase that has more bells and whistles than I need, as I'm much into sub ohming personally.

Thanks for your patience