VERSION 2.5 Vision ViVi Nova Is IN STOCK Now, VIVI NOVA Review Thread

[Briar]

As far as I am concerned people who rush to judgement are missing out on a good thing. I really like the ViVi - and I suspect I'll like it even more as things develop. It's silly, no offense, to expect perfection from new products. And it takes courage to put new products on the market. After all is said and done, I'd rather hang out with the leaders in the industry, hiccups and all - and nice guys to boot.

Viva ViVi!

 

[Briar]

Well, Bad is being *extremely* diplomatic and CS-politically-correct here, but I don't have to be, so without further ado, I have to say that while anyone is entitled to their opinion, fair is fair.

It is almost impossible to bring a new product into the market without initial hiccups. Look at any industry. If you expect perfection, then don't buy the early production runs. Period.

Any reasonable person understands this. Some of us are enthusiastic enough that we don't mind and jump on new stuff anyways - and very often we are *not at all* disappointed. Let's look at the record:

I've been shopping with GV from September 2011. In that time they came out with lots and lots of new products. Of these, Fluxos, Vision Extremes, Vision Grandes, Stardusts, Phoenix, Ultimo, Gripper, and I am sure I am missing some, are considered excellent products by most customers and most reviewers. Look it up. That's not enough?

So, by all means, draw your own conclusions, but don't berate a company that's actually doing a great service to vaping community by being innovative and courageous enough to take the risks that go with *being* innovative. That's neither reasonable, nor fair.

And as far as each new product being advertised as great - *of course* it is! They believe it is, or, else, they wouldn't be bringing it out, for Gossakes! Jeeeeez... Sometimes the testing done under controlled conditions does not carry into the wild - that's exactly the risk of *any* innovation by *any* company. Why isn't that obvious?..

And, btw, this doesn't even apply to the ViVi. Firstly, it's working well for many. Secondly, it's beauty is not in any particular part (head or whatever), but in the idea of a modular tank - again, why isn't that obvious? The design is ingenious. No hiccup with a few heads can take away from that - especially when the rest of it (the integrity of the tank, etc) is working well by anyone's judgement.

OK, getting off my soapbox (still muttering to myself...)

Well I am stepping off of the Gotvapes train for good. I got 4 days off of one head (was the only one that worked good) and less than 24 hours off of the other two that totally sucked ...and no was not running HV through them. out of aprox $160 of C8's, Fluxo's, Micromizers, Stardust and Vivi Nova, all I got that worked well were 5 Phoenix clearos. I have noticed a trend of the "Next Greatest thing" only to turn out dud. For those who don't mind spending money to test products for Gotvapes, be my guest! When I purchase a product I expect it to work as advertised, PERIOD!

To Gotvapes: You might practice some better communication skills to customers by tagging untested products as a Beta products with a warning and then if the customer decides to proceed they do so knowingly. I have not been a customer very long but the time I have been has been a huge let down and waste of my money. A bad product here and there is one thing, as I do understand things can happen.

 

[melloyello]

i have not been shy to express my thoughts on here when a product hasnt worked the way i thought it was going to. i have tried many many of them (almost all) with little to no success.
i finally did find one that works and thats the phoenix xl and 3ml version. i have kissed my beloved boges goodbye and will buy the phoenix's from here on out.

dan and chris, thanks for letting me vent when i get frustrated.

 

[Rickajho]

I am also wondering about this. This tank won't screw into any of my box mods. It's a pain in the .... to get into thread in to an Ego. What about that situation? Are we going to be stuck having to buy a whole new setup? I just ordered another one too because I found a way to fix mine and get them working great! It would be nice to buy one that just works though.

We have a problem...

I caught the LordDavon ViVi tank review on YouTube.. And the warning that they might change the head connector to something proprietary. 2 tanks arrived today. And yeah - they did. The head connector is no longer 510.

Problem is neither is the tank base.

How stupid is this: They not only changed the head threading to something oddball, they made the (formerly) 510 connector on the tank base the same damned threading. I can tell you all the things it isn't: It isn't 510, it isn't 901... The tank connector is so small it bangs around the 510 on my box mod and doesn't even catch the threads. One of the two tanks barely catches the threads on an eGo battery. But you can tell if you proceed any further you risk stripping something.

Looking at it from the side, the spacing on the threading is too close together to be 510.

How do I know the tank base is the same threading as the now proprietary head threading? I took a tank apart. The tank base connector fits the head threading beautifully.

How stupid is this?

I got mine from AltSmoke. I'm waiting on a reply. Of course they are going back. Question is how are replacements going to be handled and when will they be ready.

Crash test dummy not amused. Any vendor that has recent batches in hand from the manufacturer better check what threading they have - both the tank base and the heads - before sending anything out. Looks like there are already two versions of the clear tank model in the marketplace - to be quickly followed with a third, corrected model.

 

[Bmays]

Rickajho, Can you give me the link to LordDavon's review you are referring? I seen the one he did but I suppose he did another?

 

[badkolo]

We have a problem...

I caught the LordDavon ViVi tank review on YouTube.. And the warning that they might change the head connector to something proprietary. 2 tanks arrived today. And yeah - they did. The head connector is no longer 510.

Problem is neither is the tank base.

How stupid is this: They not only changed the head threading to something oddball, they made the (formerly) 510 connector on the tank base the same damned threading. I can tell you all the things it isn't: It isn't 510, it isn't 901... The tank connector is so small it bangs around the 510 on my box mod and doesn't even catch the threads. One of the two tanks barely catches the threads on an eGo battery. But you can tell if you proceed any further you risk stripping something.

Looking at it from the side, the spacing on the threading is too close together to be 510.

How do I know the tank base is the same threading as the now proprietary head threading? I took a tank apart. The tank base connector fits the head threading beautifully.

How stupid is this?

I got mine from AltSmoke. I'm waiting on a reply. Of course they are going back. Question is how are replacements going to be handled and when will they be ready.

Crash test dummy not amused. Any vendor that has recent batches in hand from the manufacturer better check what threading they have - both the tank base and the heads - before sending anything out. Looks like there are already two versions of the clear tank model in the marketplace - to be quickly followed with a third, corrected model.

what are yout alking about, the vivi heads are 510 and so is the connector, altmoke doesnt have the new heads, so not sure what your ranting about in our forum about altsmokes product and just checked their forum and dont see a complaint form you.

maybe if you showed a picture that would help and I have no problem helping you here.

also lord never said that, what he actually said is to buy the heads now becuase he was worried they might make them not rebuildable.

so once again i have no idea what your talking about since the vivi is 510 top and bottom, if your vivi head isnt fitting onto a different device you need to remove the rubber gromet.

 

[Rickajho]

Rickajho, Can you give me the link to LordDavon's review you are referring? I seen the one he did but I suppose he did another?

This is the one I was referring to:

Vision Vivi Nova Review - YouTube

 

[Rickajho]

The threading on what I received is not 510. The tank base male connector is so small you can bang it around into the sides of a box mod 510 connector. The threading is more closely spaced than standard 510. It's the same problem someone else reported in this thread today about his tanks not fitting any of his 510 boxes and he "forced" it to screw onto an eGo battery. When I saw the difference in the thread spacing I wasn't about to push the issue. Just by feel I could tell the threading was wrong on the one of the two tanks that would even catch the threading on my eGo battery.

You can do whatever you want. But if you are selling them I would strongly suggest you look at at least the tank bases on any new stock you are receiving and see if you still think the tanks bases have 510 threading. This was meant to be a post about a general problem with the current production run of the tanks. My post wasn't a supplier review.

Photos will be up as soon as I can get to that. Probably somewhere else.

 

[badkolo]

sure would like to see them, i have not run into that at all, once you take them please add them here . i saw the other post but without pictures i have no clue, no one has wrote in , 1250 out form us and im not even sure if that other person bought it form us or not, you make number 2 and its not form us, so help me by showing me pics so i know where to go from there.

 

[badkolo]

the vivi have been checked randomly, and all like this, so if you have something different then you definitely need to contact them and handle that with them as that may be a bad run off or god knows what, but what i know is, no change was made and they are 510 bottom and top, not something we are seeing here and have first run and last run. i think this picture illustrates what your talking about minus the issue your having.

 

[DeviantDe]

It is almost impossible to bring a new product into the market without initial hiccups. Look at any industry. If you expect perfection, then don't buy the early production runs. Period.

Any reasonable person understands this. Some of us are enthusiastic enough that we don't mind and jump on new stuff anyways - and very often we are *not at all* disappointed.

This is all true, your whole post is.
The only thing I can say is we hear about great new products and ideas and we want them to work as soon as we get them and yes we get disappointed when they don't. Most just roll with it, knowing that it's new and the bugs are still being worked out and that in the end everything will be fine. But a few get angry that they didn't get that instant gratification, then they throw a fit about it, vow to never do business again or whatever... but more than half the time, if the product is a good/useful one, they'll be back after it has been tweaked or reworked.

My only disappointment with the ViVi has been that the one I received has flaking metal plating right out of the box(well that and the weird extension of the connector, but that is correctable at home) and that I have to send it back without even getting to try it out. The idea itself is a beautiful one and I can't wait to have one that is fully operational.

What is the time frame on the shortened connection post and the new heads? I can't wait to order one

 

[badkolo]

by the way not sure what issues other have(vendors) but the vivi is 510 on top and 510 on bottom and nothing has changed and it will stay that way, all 4 new nova lines coming are all 510 on top and 510 on bottom

 

[burns_erin]

Your flip attitude toward your customers just cemented that I would never repurchase even the phoenix from you again or do business with Gotvapes period for anything. You don't want my money, fine I will gladly take it to a vendor that treats customers alot better than you do. You have a great day.

Wow, I wouldn't consider that flip, I would consider it managing to be polite when one was rather frustrated, but then again, I'm a red head...maybe I am working from a different scale

 

[vikeme28]

Your flip attitude toward your customers just cemented that I would never repurchase even the phoenix from you again or do business with Gotvapes period for anything. You don't want my money, fine I will gladly take it to a vendor that treats customers alot better than you do. You have a great day.

Wow! ...LOL
Hope you find what your looking for. Just stay away from the stinky's. Have a great day

More gv goodies for us

 

[Aras]

Your flip attitude toward your customers just cemented that I would never repurchase even the phoenix from you again or do business with Gotvapes period for anything. You don't want my money, fine I will gladly take it to a vendor that treats customers alot better than you do. You have a great day.

You couldn't be more incorrect. You tried a bunch of new stuff, you didn't like it. Didn't want to mod it. Go back to poly cartos and dripping then. Personally, I have gotten everything working top notch except for the viva. Waiting for the mailman to bring me wick and wire to build my own coils for that... The phoenix is the only out of the box fillerless carto that works so far for me. GV has listened to me ..... since they opened, always made good on the deal.

 

[Aras]

Wow! ...LOL
Hope you find what your looking for. Just stay away from the stinky's. Have a great day

More gv goodies for us

3 out of 2 people agree with you. One less person to buy stuff before I can!

 

[Dusty_D]

So, back to the Vivi. I just got mine in today, and here's what I've found so far:

The 2.4 ohm head measured exactly at 2.4 on the Provari. Trimmed the top silcone cap a bit to make more room for juice to wick, and removed the "free floating" top wick. Fluffed up the remaining wicks a bit, put it together & filled it to 2.8ml. Nice and easy process. Let it sit for about 15 minutes and then attached it to the Provari. Sits very nicely on the Provari.

Set the Provari to 4.5 (total 8.5Watts) and hit it.

Nice thick vapor, but the flavour did not come through. Vaped it for about 5 minutes, and still not getting much flavour.

After having used it for about 1/2 an hour so far, I'm starting to get a burnt flavour.

Any suggestions on how to proceed with this?

 

[Briar]

What's your juice PG/VG ratio?

Try lowering the voltage to 3.7 - it helped with wicking for my VG juice. I can't think of anything else re wicking off the top of my head...

About the flavor - and, mind you, this is just from my personal experimentation. Opening the wick slots, and loosening the draw in general (and opening wick slots does loosen the air flow even if you do fluff those wick in this unit - it's not quite the same as with a regular CE2, imho, because the wicks are not quite the same) *severely* decreases the flavor. As an example, one of my heads was working rather well with a 70/30 juice. Went through a whole tank with no problems and could taste the juice fine, maybe just a tad soft. I put the trimmed-down hat on it, and the flavor *went away*. I mean *totally*. Put the original hat on, and the flavor returned. So I would suggest putting an un-trimmed hat on and seeing what happens with the flavor.

So, back to the Vivi. I just got mine in today, and here's what I've found so far:

The 2.4 ohm head measured exactly at 2.4 on the Provari. Trimmed the top silcone cap a bit to make more room for juice to wick, and removed the "free floating" top wick. Fluffed up the remaining wicks a bit, put it together & filled it to 2.8ml. Nice and easy process. Let it sit for about 15 minutes and then attached it to the Provari. Sits very nicely on the Provari.

Set the Provari to 4.5 (total 8.5Watts) and hit it.

Nice thick vapor, but the flavour did not come through. Vaped it for about 5 minutes, and still not getting much flavour.

After having used it for about 1/2 an hour so far, I'm starting to get a burnt flavour.

Any suggestions on how to proceed with this?

 

[Dusty_D]

Juice is at 80/20 PG/VG, so I'm pretty sure it's not that. I left the trimmed cap on, but what I did do was throw the free floating wick back on and suddenly, what's that?! Flavour?! Could it be? Yes it is..

I also seem to be getting some vapor in there somehow.. it get's cloudy in there after I take a toot and then dissipates slowly. Anyone experiencing this?!

I'm gonna like this "fiddling" business, cause I'm a bit (just a bit) of a fiddler..

 

[badkolo]

karma, i told you have a nice day and you have options to shop elsewhere, i wont be going back and fourth with you and you wont be doing what your doing or ill keep deleting your posts. thats it, this ends here, if your not happy with us im sorry for that and you have other places to shop if every experience with us a issue.