VERSION 2.5 Vision ViVi Nova Is IN STOCK Now, VIVI NOVA Review Thread

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Briar

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I'm not quite sure I understand:

Are you saying that you are having wicking problems unless you tilt?

And are you comparing the ViVi to the tanks with regular cartomizers (the ones with filler)?

OK here is my 7 hour opinion. Sorry but so far its a POS. I have tried the stock head that ohmed out at 2.1 and a head I rebuilt using silver wire leads ohmed at 2.1. Now I don't know how much better it is than ver 1 or any other Vision product. What I am comparing to is the Vapeanator tank, Smoktech tank. Even my stock eGo C has better flavor. All three feed the coils better.

I am going to keep trying, since I have invested $21.00. But I can tell you that with any of my other three systems, it was good from the 1st draw.

Sev

P.S. The Smoktech tank cost $9.00 and replacement cartos are $1.98, that last a week. This may very well be the best CE style tank, but so far not the best vape.
 

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I have the metal tanks and have noticed zero metallic taste. Now one thing you may want to check is taking off the silicone cap on the attu and check to see if any of the coil is touching the walls of the atty. If so give it a slight nudge to adjust it to the middle. That might result in a metallic taste but its just a guess.

Sev I know how ya feel for me v1 was a "pos" but the new one is far far better. There are still some minor things as per my last post but all in all ive been vaping it all night. Not one dry hit, even chain vaping and I use only very high vg juices.

What juice are you using and what is the mix? Did you cut your wicks or are they still full?
 

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I would - for I don't know which time - suggest that we don't use derogatory terms, shall we? To call something someone else likes "pos" is just plain rude. I'd personally appreciate if criticism - valid or not - didn't go that far. It gives me a toothache, and I can't afford a dentist. LOL That's pointed at both of you gentlemen, in case you are wondering. Yes, I may be a 50 yo prude, but I am also right.

That said, I agree with what's below - though I didn't have a wicking problem with v1 either. Like I said, I'm vaping Boba's now - chain-vaping, in fact, at 5V - and not a dry hit in sight.

That's why I was asking those questions, Sev. I'm trying to figure out what's going on there... If you expect not to tilt, and hold your tank vertically most of the time, yeah, you might get a lot of dry hits, I suppose... But it's pretty much expected that you tilt CE2-type setups *some*...

And if you prefer cartos with filler over a clearomizer, then you can't expect to like the ViVi, since it's basically a clearomizer.

But it wasn't entirely clear from the comments.

I have the metal tanks and have noticed zero metallic taste. Now one thing you may want to check is taking off the silicone cap on the attu and check to see if any of the coil is touching the walls of the atty. If so give it a slight nudge to adjust it to the middle. That might result in a metallic taste but its just a guess.

Sev I know how ya feel for me v1 was a "pos" but the new one is far far better. There are still some minor things as per my last post but all in all ive been vaping it all night. Not one dry hit, even chain vaping and I use only very high vg juices.

What juice are you using and what is the mix? Did you cut your wicks or are they still full?
 

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Hope you feel better, Bad. And hope it wasn't the fish, or things just might get more "interesting" before they pass, so to speak. Aren't I a doll? :p

ill play with them to see what your talking about then deal with it on the video and get into the vivi in detail, just a little backed up, so many things here to test and make videos for and i have a headache form hell, wodering if its the fish i ate.lolol
 

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An update:

I just cut the wick on one of my heads (this one was supposed to have been a 1.8 Ohm, but ended up being 2.3 :blink:) - and the flavor strength has increased dramatically. In fact, it's almost too strong, and I prefer strong flavor. This is a 70/30 liquid, a fruit tea. Sharper taste than in a Stardust, again somewhat skewed towards the high end, but it doesn't matter with this one.

I'm rather shocked, actually. Had no idea that just cutting the wicks would make such a difference.

Wicking is not effected. I have it at 4V now and it's doing fine. Oh, this is a v2.5 head in a v1 body. It is steaming it up inside a lot...
 

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I know that at this moment, which is still too early to say anything difinitive for my own experience... I'm not having any problems to speak of though on the v1 VN tube using a v2.5 head I have a concern, but no problem really.

First... the new all v2.5 VN. I've just started on my second tankfull in it. Both the flavor as well as the amount of vapor have steadly increased. Unlike Briar, I've only used one flavor ( a RY4 )... so I can't do a nice comparison as she did on the nuances in this area. In fact, I normally only vape 3 flavors ( all tobacco based ) and only venture into deserts, fruits and drink flavors when the mood strikes which is a bit rare for me.

Just to rub it in a bit more ( because it's fun :D ).... I have no idea if my heads ohm out even close to their marked rating... I have a Kick and don't have to worry about it since the Kick adjusts it for me automatically to the wattage I want. ( Don't ya just hate those people that gloat ... lol ). Now to get back to reality again...

On the v1 VN with v2.5 heads... darn it... it is still an airy draw ( duh ). Of course I knew it would be and if I cared enough, I could address that if I really wanted. I can say that my results on it are very similar to the v2.5 VN but I can't compare flavor much since I'm using a different tobacco that has a mild but complex flavor in it... no carmel or vanilla like the RY4. I have almost completely ( but not quite ) vaped a full tank in it. When I first filled it... I laid it on it's side to see if it was prone to leaking that way... no leaks were found. The acid test for leaks will come when I'm taking it to work, carrying it in a hot car etc... so those results will have to wait.

The concern I mentioned, and I'm uncertain if this indicates a problem or not... is that it looks like inside the tank is condensing... I don't recall seeing this on the all v2.5 tank. I also can't say if it even a problem really. I only suspect that the top seal isn't as good as on the v2.5 tank but that is only a guess at this point. I did also have a few moments where I got vapor into the tank and I readjusted the top seal a second time to eliminate that.

Things are certainly looking good for the v2.5 all in all at this time and right now I'm very happy ( but reserve the right to flame bad and danno at any moment ) ...

Sev... listen to what Briar said... I second it for what it's worth. I know... it's hard for you young whippersnappers to listen to us more... eh... experienced folk ( just to stay away from giving away my own age ) :D
 

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I would - for I don't know which time - suggest that we don't use derogatory terms, shall we? To call something someone else likes "pos" is just plain rude. I'd personally appreciate if criticism - valid or not - didn't go that far. It gives me a toothache, and I can't afford a dentist. LOL That's pointed at both of you gentlemen, in case you are wondering. Yes, I may be a 50 yo prude, but I am also right.

That said, I agree with what's below - though I didn't have a wicking problem with v1 either. Like I said, I'm vaping Boba's now - chain-vaping, in fact, at 5V - and not a dry hit in sight.

That's why I was asking those questions, Sev. I'm trying to figure out what's going on there... If you expect not to tilt, and hold your tank vertically most of the time, yeah, you might get a lot of dry hits, I suppose... But it's pretty much expected that you tilt CE2-type setups *some*...

And if you prefer cartos with filler over a clearomizer, then you can't expect to like the ViVi, since it's basically a clearomizer.

But it wasn't entirely clear from the comments.

I have edited my post from initials to this "as advertised or reviewed for me". I expected to tilt, just not after each puff. Also if the PV is standing I though it would wick enough to get one toot. I think I will try the wick cut.

Sev
 
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Sev... listen to what Briar said... I second it for what it's worth. I know... it's hard for you young whippersnappers to listen to us more... eh... experienced folk ( just to stay away from giving away my own age ) :D

I'm actually not that young (44). Married 23 years. Two boys 18 and 19. Maybe its a Texas thing. However I have edited and said the same thing in a PC way.

Sev
 

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Yep, that's exactly what happens. Mine are going down too.

I cut the wick down to just longer then the width of the tank, so they are bent a little. And I gotta tell you, it's something... First of, the head reads between 2.0 and 2.1 Ohms now. Second off, I just had it up to 5 V - not a single dry hit, mind you (ok, the tank is pretty full right now) - and I had to turn down the voltage to 3.7. Not because it was too hot, or was not wicking, or the juice was burning, or anything like that, but because I couldn't handle the flavor intensity. It literally felt like I was drinking the stuff, the taste was into my tongue and all over the place, and all without an iota of distortion. Wow. I've never experienced anything like it before. I now understand why some people are into high power vaping... Too much for me though.

Ive only used the 2.4 head but it started at 3 ohms, as ive used it tonight its now down to 2.5 ohms. As you use them the coil tightens up and the resistance gets down to what its supposed to be.

How much of the wick did you cut off briar?
 
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Yep, that's exactly what happens. Mine are going down too.

I cut the wick down to just longer then the width of the tank, so they are bent a little. And I gotta tell you, it's something... First of, the head reads between 2.0 and 2.1 Ohms now. Second off, I just had it up to 5 V - not a single dry hit, mind you (ok, the tank is pretty full right now) - and I had to turn down the voltage to 3.7. Not because it was too hot, or was not wicking, or the juice was burning, or anything like that, but because I couldn't handle the flavor intensity. It literally felts like I was drinking the stuff, the taste was into my tongue and all over the place, and all without an iota of distortion. Wow. I've never experienced anything like it before. I now understand why some people are into high power vaping... Too much for me though.

I think its the Capillary action. Here is an interesting read that may shed lite on wicking dynamics.

Capillary action - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Capillary action can be defined as the ascension of liquids through slim tube, cylinder or permeable substance due to adhesive and cohesive forces interacting between the liquid and the surface. When intermolecular bonding of a liquid itself is substantially inferior to a substances’ surface it is interacting, capillarity occurs. Also, the diameter of the container as well as the gravitational forces will determine amount of liquid raised.
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I have edited my post from initials to this "as advertised or reviewed for me". I expected to tilt, just not after each puff. Also if the PV is standing I though it would wick enough to get one toot. I think I will try the wick cut.

Sev

Thank you, Sev, I appreciate it. :) My teeth feel better already. LOL

As for tilting: The best way to think of it is that you tilt as you vape. Period. Not after each hit, not once in a while, but as a default position. Just hold it at an angle, as you would a cig. Not as much of an angle, obviously, most people hold their cigs horizontal, but enough so most of at least one wick is always in the liquid. And if your PV is vertical when you are not using it for a while, dip the wick for a bit before you start vaping. That should, in most cases, cure dry hits, I'd think. At any rate, that's how I vape this pup, and no dry hits, or even close, so...
 
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