VERSION 2.5 Vision ViVi Nova Is IN STOCK Now, VIVI NOVA Review Thread

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Briar

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Well, see, if you make your own juice, that's a different story - you can tailor it to your equipment preference then. I guess I understand better now. I tried DIY, but just couldn't get into it. It's fascinating to me in principle, but in practice I don't have the patience to wait for juices to steep, only to find out I don't like the variant, and have to dry again, changing percentages drop by drop... At this point, I'd rather have someone else do the work - though I occasionally tweak an "almost perfect" liquid by mixing pre-made ones here and there.

Plus, it sounds like you like more subtle flavor, judging from percentages.

My taste buds are a little weak, and I am always afraid to not get enough flavor. Plus, I'm ridiculously picky with my juices - once I find something I love, I stick with it. Currently, my standard favorite mix is 50/50, though some I like only come in VG. Different mix proportions do change the flavor somewhat, quite aside from strenth...

You are right, different people have different experiences. There is probably a reason as to why yours is different than mine re flooding, but it would take forever to figure out - too many variables. :)

As to why I am not particularly keen on fooling around with long wicks... Short ones work great for me, so why change? I suppose flavor can always get better, though it's hard to imagine with the Stardust - I should try a long wicked one and compare it side-by-side, just for an experiment.

For all the CE2s I have tried, none of them compare to the Stardust in flavor - I actually recently ran a side-by-side comparison with Visions Extreme, the Fluxo, and the standard non-branded CE2. There is just no comparison. I can taste nuances with the Stardust that are just not there in the others, and the flavor is cleaner, more balanced, and stronger. For me, anyway. The only clearo that compares to the Stardust in flavor, imho, is the bc Phoenix (haven't tried the tc Phoenix yet) - and that only with certain juices that taste strong to begin with at low temp, otherwise I get that strange "botton coil" flavor that I'd rather do without.

Another reason is that the short wicks look cute. OK, I'm a *girl*. A 51 yo girl, but still a girl. LOL

I might try the long wick once the ViVi comes out, I suppose, and see if it works for me. I can always cut it down later.

Bottom line, though, is that getting them with long wicks is more flexible: will make people like you happy, and people like me can cut them down and be happy. Everyone happy, it's all good. :)


Briar, I hear you but I still disagree. From my experience with longer wicked clearos when you trim the wicks you actually sacrifice flavor. two to five drops (depending on bottle size of course) of dw or pga is not going to dilute your juice to the point where its watered down or cause substantial flavor loss, but it is enough to make a juice wick better.

I work in all vg, except for flavorings. I make my own juice so maybe its easier for me to tailor it to my taste. Mind you, Im not adding more than 10-15% flavoing in most of my juices. Most often its under 8%. And I never add more flavor to a finished juice.. only dw if it needs to wick better and I never have had the flavor suffer as a result.

If you have no wicking issues with your juices thats a good thing, but that also means you should be getting even better flavor with longer wicks. Why people want them cut is beyond me.

Either way Im glad we will have the option to do as we like. Different strokes for different folks. Once we have them try two of the same ohms heads. One with long wicks, one short, with the same jukce and I think you'll see.

As far as why they flood on me like that I dont know. Ive read and read, done everything including reduce the juice level and blow them out and they still act up. I so find they perform slightly better on VV but not much. Plus the hassle of eolling and tilting is just a pita. Long wicks draw on their own if the juice is right. Hence why I said, fix the juice if its not wicking right.

Stardusts and the ce2 micromizers from mit are the only ones that ever flood on me. Stardust top coil, micromizer bottom coil... go figure.
 

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100% Vg thats too thin? Only if heavily diluted to a percentage below 65-70% by other things. I dont ever hit that range. If anything they would still be too thick but one of the first things I did with diy mixing was learn how to make vg juices at the right precentage to wick well across a variety of equipment. Took me two weeks but I nailed it.

Briar, I decided to order some of the phoenix's,,1.5. & 3ml bottom coil. I wanted to try the top coil cause Im sure its a warmer vape which Im fond of, but then I thought... "hmm, what if its like the vivi", let other ppl work out the bugs this time. No more first runs for me... lol.
 

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Would you please tell me the net percentage of DW you add for wicking dillution? I read where you mentioned 2-drops, but two drops per what volume? I have some tobacco mixes I make that are prone to wick slow and would appreciate your feedback.

My Stardust plastic tubes also crack with cinnamon and strong menthols, or when I use ammonia for cleaning. I believe this is due to expansion of the lower silicone seal ring.

Thanks to all you folks for feedback on the ViVi, as I'm going to try it soon but may wait for an upgrade.
 

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I got my Vivi V2 today. Not sure if this is the final version (run) that will be sold by GV. IMO, I will say that the V2 is much better than V1.
The flavor and vapor is very good.

The configuration is different. The air holes are no longer on the tank, they are now on the part that screws in to the battery (sorry, not sure what you call it).
Even though I have not attempted a rebuild of V2 yet, it appears that they are going to be problematic to rebuild as the coil is enclosed within a cup.

I checked the resistance on the three atomizers that came with the kit, the 1.8 ohm metered at 1.9, the 2.8 metered at 3.2. The 2.4 ohm is way out, it meters at 3.0 ohms.

Currently I am using the 1.8 ohm atty. Very nice. It is performing like a LR atty should. Contrary to some reports that I have read, there does not appear to be a required break-in period.

Last but not least: The wicks are very short and the material used seems to be different from the material used in version 1. I say the material used is similar to what is used in the Pheonix.

Based on V2, I say Vision finally got it right. Yahoo! & about time.
 

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100% Vg thats too thin? Only if heavily diluted to a percentage below 65-70% by other things. I dont ever hit that range. If anything they would still be too thick but one of the first things I did with diy mixing was learn how to make vg juices at the right precentage to wick well across a variety of equipment. Took me two weeks but I nailed it.

Briar, I decided to order some of the phoenix's,,1.5. & 3ml bottom coil. I wanted to try the top coil cause Im sure its a warmer vape which Im fond of, but then I thought... "hmm, what if its like the vivi", let other ppl work out the bugs this time. No more first runs for me... lol.

Sorry, :eyeblink: I misinterpreted what you said. Lack of sleep will do that to me :)
 

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As good as the flavor is right out of the box it does get better and better this thing transformed my cinnamon into a dense creamy vape i have not tasted before and i have used it for weeks dare i say a perfect tank finally.And i almost forgot not a single dry hit in 3 days use so far
 
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Gary its kind of hard to say without knowing the makeup of your juices. In general tho you can add a couple drops of distilled water at a time, shake well, and vape to see if your wicking issues are resolved. As diy'ers know a little distilled water can go a long way. Just today I bought a bottle of 10ml 100% VG virginia at a local vape shop cause I stopped in and had to add .3 ml of dw to get it to wick right. .3ml in a 20drop per ml dropper is 6 drops. Flavor didnt change at all but its viscosity is better.

As far as cinnamon goes I dont vape it, ever. That imo is playing with fire.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...212870-do-you-vape-cinnamon-flavors-read.html

Besides my lungs cant handle it.

Menthol on the other hand at high concentrations will literally melt many plastics including lexan/polycarbonate. I have had it destroy syringes so now I only work with menthol via glass droppers and use glass vials for storage. For caustic (read that as meaning highly acidic) juices your best bet is glass or metal tanks. One good reason to buy a nova and one or two of the metal tanks with it.

I dont know what you are using ammonia for on your equipment but Id stop doing that altogether. Clean equipment with pure grain alcohol/vodka, white vinegar, or plain old rinse under the tap. Ammonia, to my knowledge, is known to leech into plastics and weaken their structure. Not to mention that vaping any of that as residue simply cant be good for you.

I love the idea of glass tanks. HINT to Bad... glass tanks! lol

To everyone, sorry for getting so off topic. Any other questions on this kimd of thing please do pm me.
 

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I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but if I were to get the Vivi Nova now would I be able to use the v2 heads on the old version? Are the metal tanks the same? Or is it a whole re-design? The orange/brown tank looks like a great match for my copper eGo, but I don't want to get the v1 if it's a flawed product...
 

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I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but if I were to get the Vivi Nova now would I be able to use the v2 heads on the old version? Are the metal tanks the same? Or is it a whole re-design? The orange/brown tank looks like a great match for my copper eGo, but I don't want to get the v1 if it's a flawed product...

Better to explain with pics. For both images V2 head is on the left.
 

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Sorry if this has been answered already, but are the V2 heads going to fit the V1? I would hate to have to replace the entire unit when the heads blow out. they appear to be a different size?

Someone said they would fit but after seeing that picture I'm wondering how myself.

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so does the new rubber cap part actually go into the hole on the tank top or does it just push against it when its all assembled?

updated: The new rubber cap does not go in to the tank cover hole, it pushes up against the hole when assembled.
 
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