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And speaking for myself. I have probably gained enough knowledge that I could build a homemade mech mod if my current mods failed. Very carefully.
I actually think I CAN answer that one honestly this second but the answer is no. Hear me out, though, my directional challenges almost 100% guarantee that the baby and I would both expire, so unless it was just kind of gently smoldering, I see no reason for further loss of life.
Anna
Yep, and a generator is a very common thing for people to have here, too. Charging batteries won't be a problem! With more than enough DIY supplies, mods, tanks, wire, factory coils, etc...I'd vape as long as I want to, regulations or not.
Indeed, I have a gasoline generator also...
and for my next home I plan to get one of those huge LP gas generators that gets buried.
Those new tiny inexpensive solar chargers are cool for when you run out of gas...you can charge your 18650's as well as your useless cellphone.. unless the gub'min turns off the sun..
BTW, could you see last night's lunar eclipse from your location?
Regulations!? Ha!
Nic isn't really a problem if availability disappears. Nic isn't the addictive part of smoking. If it was, then people who quit using Nicorette would be hooked for life. It was the cocktail of chemical additives in cigarettes that caused us to go out at 11pm to buy a pack.
PG and VG are used for much more than vaping. They'll be available forever. Most DIY flavors will be here. Lorann's flavorings were only for cake and candy makers before vaping. Tobacco flavors will still be around for DIY'ers because the market can do nothing but grow.
Vaping hardware sellers will make a killing once the announcement about the end of vaping hits the airwaves.
PG and VG are used for much more than vaping. They'll be available forever. Most DIY flavors will be here. Lorann's flavorings were only for cake and candy makers before vaping. Tobacco flavors will still be around for DIY'ers because the market can do nothing but grow.
Vaping hardware sellers will make a killing once the announcement about the end of vaping hits the airwaves.
There is also the stationary bicycle connected to the battery type generator. I don't mind pedaling for my vape.
Batteries are my least concern though, somehow, although maybe they SHOULDN'T be because frankly since I JOINED UP, well, I have noted that dire predictions change ALL the time and unexpected curveballs happen ALL the time.
As Joan of Arc though, transportation will be easy. At least 7 if not more neighbors own horses, many of them tractable, biddable and easy to steal, so that part is the last of my worries.
I'm just not stockpiling batteries though, I'm not. I'm too young for if that issue arises, for me to not have problems there. Etc.
Anna
Batteries are my least concern though, somehow, although maybe they SHOULDN'T be because frankly since I JOINED UP, well, I have noted that dire predictions change ALL the time and unexpected curveballs happen ALL the time.
As Joan of Arc though, transportation will be easy. At least 7 if not more neighbors own horses, many of them tractable, biddable and easy to steal, so that part is the last of my worries.
I'm just not stockpiling batteries though, I'm not. I'm too young for if that issue arises, for me to not have problems there. Etc.
Anna
My neighbor and 1 of my cousins have the big above ground, enclosed, LP generators. They can even run their house AC systems, too. They kick on automatically when power is out for a specified amount of time, and kick off when it comes back on. Around here they run about $4K-8K depending on the size you want.
I don't know 'cause I forgot to out last night to see if I could.
I would keep vaping. It's not like they could stop me. Even if they outlawed it, it would only mean outlawing the sale; it strikes me as highly unlikely it would become a possession crime. I make my own juice now, and I can and occasionally do make my own mods. Atomizers would be a little harder: I don't own the tools. But I could buy them and, if they were outlawed, easily pay for them by making more attys for other people. Gear and consumables can be purchased from outside the country if need be. "Illegal" e-juice "labs" would sprout like mushrooms after a rain. Street corner vendors would be on every corner. (Pssssst! Hey buddy! Wanna buy a vape mod?) No, I am not worried.
If you aren't familiar with the story, look up "King Canute."
If you aren't familiar with the story, look up "King Canute."
It's very simple, I stocked up on gear that will last me well beyond my lifetime so what would I do?
Ignore the law, continue to Vape and use both what I have stockpiled and participate on the Black Market.
People are different. If I was out of e-liquid at 11pm, I do believe I'd go out and get some, because waking up the next morning without my nic would not be pleasant.
However, such a scenario is completely implausible for me. As I said earlier in this thread, I'm fully stocked for a lifetime. In fact, I've never allowed myself to come anywhere close to being out of e-liquid (or having backup hardware) since the first week I started vaping in December of 2013. Back then, I was worried that I'd just grab some smokes if I ran out of juice, and I didn't want that to happen. Now I think I'd just be a miserable grouch, and my wife doesn't want that to happen.
Right, but the King knew he couldn't stop the tide. Unfortunately, it seems that at least some of our politicians and bureaucrats believe they can.
Most likely the OP is getting the answers in which he meant to, meaning he really wants to know how people have stashed items or intends to make their own juices or black market, etc, but I thought it was just a simple question of , would you go back to smoking if you couldn't vape anymore? Yes again, it's hypothetical and not likely to happen, but all I was saying is just to imagine you couldn't vape anymore, would you go back? In this hypothetical senario, forget about why it wouldn't be possible and just think if you would or wouldn't smoke again. I know some don't like to answer hypothetical questions, because they may never happen, so it's pointless, but I have been asked these before and have no problem with them..it's like someone asking me what I would do if I won the lotto? Well I don't play the lotto, so it's never going to happen, but I wouldn't respond like that and although it never would happen, I would actually answer and humor them with an answer.
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No doubt, my friend, but that's the point: the king knew, but his courtiers did not, which is why he did it.
I agree, Im shocked at how vaping nicotine doesnt appear to be addictive like smoking cigarettes.
I can play around with high and low nic levels and vape nic free for days to reset my tolerance to it.
The first time I went nic free I was surprised how easy it was. The hand to mouth, mouth to lung and exhale is a far stronger habit for me than nicotine.
I do enjoy the very mild and sustained euphoria of nicotine use and the way it feels kind of "right" for me but nic doesnt seem to be the "MOST. ADDICTIVE. THING. IN. THE. WORLD. EVER." I was lead to believe for all those years. I think its actually quite piss weak as far as addictive things go when just vaping it.
Everyone is different though.
Well I think hypotheticals are kind of silly, honestly. If my choice was no vaping period, of course I'd smoke. I was only able to STOP smoking BECAUSE of vaping.
I also don't care for the very QUESTION, I don't CARE to inform the FDA Ahead OF TIME how much money they would get back in their COFFERS.
SO, my non hypothetical answer would be, I WILL continue to advance the vaping CHARGE, I WILL continue to vape even MORE fervently than before, and etc.
Because it happens to be true and for god's sakes, EVEN MORE do not answer this question realistically because OF COURSE many vapers would return to vaping.
The lottery's slogan is, "You can't win, if you don't play."
This VAPING THREAD Sloan appears, "If you play, you will LOSE."
I don't like them odds, frankly.
Pfff. (Which somehow seems to me to be the most insulting thing I can say to a thread like this, without, like, using a censored word etc. SO PFFFF, say I! DON'T MAKE ME an FDA statistic over a darned HYPOTEHTICAL.
Anna
I also don't care for the very QUESTION, I don't CARE to inform the FDA Ahead OF TIME how much money they would get back in their COFFERS.
SO, my non hypothetical answer would be, I WILL continue to advance the vaping CHARGE, I WILL continue to vape even MORE fervently than before, and etc.
Because it happens to be true and for god's sakes, EVEN MORE do not answer this question realistically because OF COURSE many vapers would return to vaping.
The lottery's slogan is, "You can't win, if you don't play."
This VAPING THREAD Sloan appears, "If you play, you will LOSE."
I don't like them odds, frankly.
Pfff. (Which somehow seems to me to be the most insulting thing I can say to a thread like this, without, like, using a censored word etc. SO PFFFF, say I! DON'T MAKE ME an FDA statistic over a darned HYPOTEHTICAL.
Anna
I think we all discussed those big LP generators when @Robino1 and her DH bought one,
where they get you ($) is in the installation charges.
There was a big stink up North Central during/after the last 'cane 'cause FPL wouldn't let homeowners run their units even though some neighborhoods had no power for weeks.
Some nonsense about electrocuting linemen.
Yea, I made it a point to make a mental note to go looksie at the eclipse..
then forgot all about it
LOL
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Guess the real question today is — How do you define vaping?
If it means relying on a stash to skulk in the shadows still branded the addicted criminal deviant by the artifice of a new social polity, grateful for a semblance, some crumbs to avail…that is not vaping.
The democracy of normalcy is deliriously seductive. If it can't stop you for your convictions, it constrains you for your speech. Force feeding aids in re-education. If not, there's the door. Without resistance the tide is against the individual.
It's all or nothing. A choice or the brand.
Good luck.
If it means relying on a stash to skulk in the shadows still branded the addicted criminal deviant by the artifice of a new social polity, grateful for a semblance, some crumbs to avail…that is not vaping.
The democracy of normalcy is deliriously seductive. If it can't stop you for your convictions, it constrains you for your speech. Force feeding aids in re-education. If not, there's the door. Without resistance the tide is against the individual.
It's all or nothing. A choice or the brand.
Good luck.
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Allow me to make a counter-argument:Guess the real question today is — How do you define vaping?
If it means relying on a stash to skulk in the shadows still branded the addicted criminal
deviant by the artifice of a new social polity, grateful for a semblance, some crumbs to avail…
that is not vaping.
The democracy of normalcy is deliriously seductive. If it can't stop you for your convictions, it constrains you for your speech. Force feeding aids in re-education. If not, there's the door. Without resistance the tide is against the individual.
It's all or nothing. A choice or the brand.
Good luck.
Why should I -- or any of us -- care what the rest of society -- that "democratic" majority who either actively or passively supports the laws and regulations that would make us "criminals" -- thinks? They're not my parents, and I am not a child. I don't need their "approval" to live my life as I see fit.
I could swear y'all just said the same thing...something about "resistance" to force fed re-education.
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