whats so great about provari?

[Southern Tina]

Been vaping a month now, analog free for that time also.

I occasionally read posts about the provari, but fail to understand how it can be better than an innokin or other mod?

You bring the juice to a heat source, vaporize it, and inhale. It seems the atomizer is the deciding factor on quality, and juice of course, so why the big hubbub over the power source?

This is not an invitation for snobbiness or mean comments, just trying to learn!

I bought mine about a month into vaping too. For me it produces a MUCH better vape. It's super easy to use and I HATE VW devices. It's sturdy and will last years vs so many of the other ones. I think it's the best $$ I've spent. You'll get a lot of opinions on this so beware but I think it's awesome. The vape it produces is amazing. The flavor is great. It's super idiot proof (which I needed, lol)...I could go on and on. If you decide to get one, look in the Blem section on ProVape. Sometimes they have great deals and most of the time the blemish is very small. That's where I'm mine next time (or on the classifieds here...but you have to be verified to go there). That's my 2 cents

 

[FourWinds]

I've seen so many posts that attest to the quality and durability of the things, it's hard for me to imagine that it's simply some kind of American jingoism going on. I just must believe that they are built of f'ing kryptonite. That said however; they are 'only' VV, and so change your coil, or have any resistance change through degradation, and guess again. And also I think the display is second rate and out of date.

When they make one with a power output setting and an OLED display I'll buy one. Until then I'll look elsewhere.


P.S. I think that peeps saying they produce better vapour are deluding themselves.

 

[Mutescream]

I'm not seeing the "provariat" come in here full of ire yet... It will happen, most likely... Full of indignation. I'm sure it is a wonderful device, in the same way it would be if I could buy what is now considered a classic hot rod, built today and by yesterday's standards.

Imagine buying a '65 mustang... Built to the old standards, recently. You just have to ask yourself if you want that, or to buy a modern Acura or Honda today for a fraction of the cost. It's all a matter of taste, and how much you are prepared to spend.

I think a bit of it is a status thing, though.

 

[Southern Tina]

No difference in the vape. Set your Innokin device on 4.1V and your Provari on 4.1V and you'll get the same vape. You're paying for the support behind the product, in my opinion. If I broke one of my Innokin mods or it just stopped working after a while, I'd just throw it away. I consider them to be very well performing devices and great "bang for the buck", but disposable. If you break a Provari or it stops working, you can send it back for replacement or repair. If you have questions about the Provari, you can email or call and talk directly to the manufacturer. For many people, that's worth the difference in cost.

That being said, I'd like to see them update the device soon. It's getting a little long in the tooth and some newer devices have better features. Again, that's just my opinion.

I have to disagree with this. I've had both and I think the Provari produces a MUCH better vape than the Innokin. But, that's just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own.

 

[Southern Tina]

I just started using my Provari yesterday. I also have an itaste VV3. There is a big difference IMHO in terms of the amount of vapor and the taste of the juice. Right now I have a different juice in the VV3 than in the Provari, so I have been on both and I notice the difference between the vape is at least 10 times over. And yes the battery and the mechanics and so on, too. Really there is a huge difference, again in my opinion and experience and the change is much like when I changed from a Halo G6 to the iTaste.

Those of us in the Provari forum know Cbrite pretty well now, and I think she's spot on. I couldn't agree more

 

[PLANofMAN]

There IS a difference I haven't seen anyone mention, the provari puts out a flat DC signal. Many (but certainly not all) VV devices use pulse width modulation for voltage control. This means the atomizer is hit with 6 or 7 volts in pulses that average out to the voltage requested. This can be tasted in the vape, and sometimes even heard (the rattlesnake sound from the atomizer).

I find the vape on PWM devices a bit harsher, but there are devices like the MVP that are also a flat DC signal.

Not entirely true. The ProVari uses PWM, but it does so at 800 Hz whereas most Chinese variable voltage devices do so at 33.3 Hz. The pulse of 33.3 times per second is noticeable, but when you turn it up to 800 times per second it's not. In fact, the output is "almost" identical to a flat DC signal, which results in a very smooth vape.

The fact that it's built to military grade specifications doesn't hurt either, or the fact that of all the regulated vaping devices out there it has the most safety features.

The button is rated for 5,000,000 presses too.

 

[Southern Tina]

I'm not seeing the "provariat" come in here full of ire yet... It will happen, most likely... Full of indignation. I'm sure it is a wonderful device, in the same way it would be if I could buy what is now considered a classic hot rod, built today and by yesterday's standards.

Imagine buying a '65 mustang... Built to the old standards, recently. You just have to ask yourself if you want that, or to buy a modern Acura or Honda today for a fraction of the cost. It's all a matter of taste, and how much you are prepared to spend.

I think a bit of it is a status thing, though.

Oh here we go. If someone asks a question, then we will obviously give our opinion. You obviously don't know those of us "Provariat's" very well. We don't start trouble. I think that we state why we love them so much and it's others that have the problem - not us. I get pretty sick of the stigma that others think about us that own and love the Provari's. For me, it's certainly not about status. I think that's silly. If people need to feel like it's a status to own a Provari then that's just sad. I bought mine for the reasons I listed about...surely not for a status. I personally don't need a Provari to feel better about myself.

 

[Cool-breeze]

I have a provari and MVP. I certainly respect mech mods and will most likely get one later. I chose a provari because I wanted mod that wasn't disposable like my MVP. It is quality for sure. I've read many problems people have from other devices, but never seen to many issues from provari owners. On that rare occasion pro vape seems to gladly fix it. Another big contribution was the safety a provari provides vs a mech mod. I will say I notice a difference between my MVP and provari. I don't know why, and it makes no sense but the provari is spot on for me. I have no regrets on it

 

[Runningw235]

Well, they last much longer than most mods. So it's more expensive, but last longer (than any device I personally know of).

The electrical output is consistent, which gives a more consistent vape than say a vamo for example. The mvp2 has the same thing.

You can abuse it and it will work as well as day one. The threads are also better than any unit I've ever used.

When your battery level gets lower, you don't get less output from the device. The last puff on a battery will be as good as the first.


Buy whatever you want, though. There are plenty of good options.

 

[KenD]

There IS a difference I haven't seen anyone mention, the provari puts out a flat DC signal. Many (but certainly not all) VV devices use pulse width modulation for voltage control. This means the atomizer is hit with 6 or 7 volts in pulses that average out to the voltage requested. This can be tasted in the vape, and sometimes even heard (the rattlesnake sound from the atomizer).

I find the vape on PWM devices a bit harsher, but there are devices like the MVP that are also a flat DC signal.

The Provari uses PWM as well, just at a much huge frequency (something like 800 mhz compared to the standard 33,3 mhz of most other vv devices). In effect it might be as good as a flat DC signal (if a flat DC signal is what you want), but technically it isn't a flat DC signal. Just nitpicking

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[FourWinds]

I've seen so many posts that attest to the quality and durability of the things, it's hard for me to imagine that it's simply some kind of American jingoism going on. I just must believe that they are built of f'ing kryptonite. That said however; they are 'only' VV, and so change your coil, or have any resistance change through degradation, and guess again. And also I think the display is second rate and out of date.

When they make one with a power output setting and an OLED display I'll buy one. Until then I'll look elsewhere.


P.S. I think that peeps saying they produce better vapour are deluding themselves.

I should, to be fair, qualify this. If it's true that Provari output is flat and truthful, whilst other mods produce a pulsed output, then it's clear that for a given voltage setting the Provari would in fact be delivering more power to the coil, and would 'appear' to produce better vapour. The solution would be simply to turn the other device up a bit. Not cool I'll agree, but to suggest that the Provari produces better vapour due to this is, I think, spurious.

 

[cbrite]

Those of us in the Provari forum know Cbrite pretty well now, and I think she's spot on. I couldn't agree more

Funny...I thought the same "spot on" thing when I read your post.

 

[jd1978]

OK, I own a itaste SVD, vamo v5, and provari v2.5. First off the SVD was the biggest piece of trash I've tried. Its dead. My vamo is still kicking, however, the adjustment buttons have lost all spring. No warranty on either. I contacted innokin trying to get the SVD repaired. They replied that its the venders problem. Now some differences I've noticed. First of all is size. My provari with an 18490 battery is smaller than either of the other two with 18350s. The provari is the same from the first button push on a battery until the last. I can tell when the vamo is starting to drain. My provari is under full warranty, and when its up, provape offers repair service. The provari is also much tougher than the other two. If you drop a Provari nothing goes flying across the room. Also, depending on who your dealing with, you never really know what your gonna get out of China.

 

[KjAthena]

OK so will post on this issue. I had a VTR and loved it...used it every day all day and it gave a very good vape....until last week when it just died...because I bought it in a co-op there was NO warrantee from Innokin so I paid $70+ dollars for 4 months of use(no it was not abused). I watched the classifieds here and for slightly more than replacing the VTR I picked up a Provari and it give a very good vape, however I know that the durability is much better and if it ever dies I can send it in for repair cheaply.

When I realized that vapeing did work for me and that I was likely to keep vapeing for a long time the Provari just made sense. I still use my Legacy and MoneyPenny and they are great for RBA use...and I still have 2 twists that I will use until they die or PIF...they got me off the smokes.

 

[FourWinds]

I should, to be fair, qualify this. If it's true that Provari output is flat and truthful, whilst other mods produce a pulsed output, then it's clear that for a given voltage setting the Provari would in fact be delivering more power to the coil, and would 'appear' to produce better vapour. The solution would be simply to turn the other device up a bit. Not cool I'll agree, but to suggest that the Provari produces better vapour due to this is, I think, spurious.

Maybe I'm just wrong though. The more I think about it, I guess that the pulsed output from an inferior device 'might' just mess with the flavour. All that hot, cooler, hot, cooler... may give a mean that's the same as a flat output, but would it taste the same? It's an interesting thing. I have to admit that I have no experience, and therefore I retract my statement suggesting delusion.

 

[PLANofMAN]

The reason that the ProVari uses "vintage" LEDs is durability. People have dropped ProVari's in full coffee mugs, swimming pools, etc. and they still worked.

Ejuice alone has killed thousands of oLED screens. It's their weak point. Get one wet and it's toast.

 

[Mutescream]

Oh here we go. If someone asks a question, then we will obviously give our opinion. You obviously don't know those of us "Provariat's" very well. We don't start trouble. I think that we state why we love them so much and it's others that have the problem - not us. I get pretty sick of the stigma that others think about us that own and love the Provari's. For me, it's certainly not about status. I think that's silly. If people need to feel like it's a status to own a Provari then that's just sad. I bought mine for the reasons I listed about...surely not for a status. I personally don't need a Provari to feel better about myself.

As if on cue...

Look, I am not saying the provari is a poorly made device, and from what I can see it's actually a pretty well built item (if a bit antiquated in the features department).

Please take a moment to reflect not just on the post I am replying to, but the two or three of yours preceding it. You are getting defensive and agitated.

I don't think "provariats" start trouble, tbh. But, the chip is noticably upon thy shoulder. Perhaps that is why some are out there that will poke with pointy sticks, so they can get a reaction.

Are you genuinely going to imply that status has nothing to do with it? I know people that do not own their mercedes to make them feel better about themselves, but on the same token would not be caught dead in a hyundai.

 

[evan le'garde]

Over the months of posting in ecf i've disagreed with plenty of members when they praised the Provari. It is an ongoing thing with a lot of people that have the same point of view i had. What i really didn't like was the price. Coming from the uk i couldn't see the benefit of the after sales service provided by provari. That's one good reason not to buy one, for me anyway !. But, seeing as the Provari's build quality is so good, i thought maybe the after sales service wouldn't be an issue. The popularity of the Provari is a good testimonial. Though the way people like pbusturdo wind on about most other devices you'd think they were subliminally endorsing the Provari with every breath. That in itself is enough to turn you off.. It aint working for ya lumpy !. Anyway, who just settles on one device ?. I've got a couple of mods which work fine and i'm perfectly happy with them. As time goes by i'll buy more, back ups for backs if you like. There is one good reason, that i realised, to buy a provari. Unlike other variable voltage devices the Provari will provide consistant vapour even when the battery is nearly flat, when other devices can't. That for me is the selling point. I finally decided, based on that, i would see for myself. I searched the internet and couldn't find what i was looking for, a polished stainless steel Provari v2.5 with green display and LED. The only place i could find one was "Provape" in the usa. So, being in the uk i really didn't want to go to all that trouble, so i asked a couple of uk vendors if they could special order one for me. I didn't get any positive responses. I wasn't prepared to make do with what was on offer in the uk so i just went and ordered one from Provape. Should get it in the next couple of days. If it turns out to be as good as i hope then i'll get another one.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

I'm not seeing the "provariat" come in here full of ire yet... It will happen, most likely... Full of indignation. I'm sure it is a wonderful device, in the same way it would be if I could buy what is now considered a classic hot rod, built today and by yesterday's standards.

Imagine buying a '65 mustang... Built to the old standards, recently. You just have to ask yourself if you want that, or to buy a modern Acura or Honda today for a fraction of the cost. It's all a matter of taste, and how much you are prepared to spend.

I think a bit of it is a status thing, though.

I don't think any of them are going to come in full of ire. I don't feel it is a status thing either. I have no one to show it off to and it does not matter much to show it off to people I don't know in real life.

I wish people had not steered me away from the Provari when I got here. I honestly love using the Provari more than anything else I have tried.

 

[JJOOHHNN]

I've seen so many posts that attest to the quality and durability of the things, it's hard for me to imagine that it's simply some kind of American jingoism going on. I just must believe that they are built of f'ing kryptonite. That said however; they are 'only' VV, and so change your coil, or have any resistance change through degradation, and guess again. And also I think the display is second rate and out of date.

When they make one with a power output setting and an OLED display I'll buy one. Until then I'll look elsewhere.


P.S. I think that peeps saying they produce better vapour are deluding themselves.

Is there any place where you can try one for 15 minutes or so in the UK?