What's under your lip/in your nose right now? - Part 2

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I think your internal alarm clock must be on the fritz. Sometimes I wake up on the weekends at the same time I would get up for work during the week. I usually lay back down then.

Yeah - it's done that all my life. I averaged roughly 3 hours a night all during school and touring but being an old coot now, it just doesn't cut it anymore. :)
 

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Good to see you feeling better Roth !!

Things have just been work,stare at the ceiling for 8 hours, work, sleep for an hour and a half etc... Rinse,repeat around here.nothing much interesting to speak of.
I'm currently shoehorning an amp into something it should clearly not be in and just ready for the whole project to be done and gone.

Sleepy tonight and have Wes Anderson movies playing in the background( hoping they knock me out). The parentals are coming for a visit tomorrow....


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I'm going to jump in here for awhile if you all don't mind. I'll soon enough if you do and it's no biggy really. I started snus and snuff last week and already feel a strong commitment to it because I need to save to money and will be using the snus and snuff the way it is rather than messing around and brewing my own WTA kitchen style with the soda bicarbonate, oil, c, and distilled water. No big difference to me. I mean sure I'll get WTA still from my favorite flavor artist but that is not always reliable the way he has to do it all solo and hold down a job so I added snuff and snus and it's everything and more I was lead to believe it was and it's not smoking. To be honest I'm getting off a 10 year Nicorette gum habit! I Do not like smoking and haven't since my early 20s thank god for that. But I would always sart for brief periods and go through the quitting thing until the final time I used Nicorette and never quit chewing it. So now I get to relax, with the. Enefit of the real thing after all these years and I do appreciate it. So that's it and see you next time.
I have Goteburgs Rape loose and it is never under my lip! I only stuff it way back in the top side of my mouth back and forth one side and the other. Does anyone else do that? I tell you, my mouth looks deformed with it under my lip! My mouth must be getting thin and flaccid
But really, I have white teeth too and I can hide the fact it's there more easily my way, and maybe other people's way?
And is it truth or fiction about stomached aches and swelling nic or is it that by the time you want to take a taste the nic has already been absorbed out...that makes sense. I never got stomach aches from the gum.
 

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Hi fay! We're pretty reaxed on this side of the tracks. Kick back and sit a spell. I put mine in the back too. It absolutely shows if I load it in the front. Hope you find a flavor that works ( or several :D) and you can finally get off the merry go round. The stomach ache thing seems to hit me if I haven't eaten yet that day.

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    Good morning. Roth I'm glad you're feeling better and have made it back to suns land.

    Fay, I've never been able to make myself use loose. I've always used portions. I did get on a goteberg kick for a while but mostly use thunder berry and general mint. The first couple years I hardly ever used the same kind twice but have pretty much settled into a routine now. I've never had stomach aches from it but did get a little warm and light headed the first time I tried an extra strong portion. I've also never had any lip or gum problems from it in three years of use. I keep my portions all the way in the back above my molars and it is undetectable. I almost forgot, welcome to the smokeless forum.

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    Good to see you feeling better Roth !!

    Things have just been work,stare at the ceiling for 8 hours, work, sleep for an hour and a half etc... Rinse,repeat around here.nothing much interesting to speak of.
    I'm currently shoehorning an amp into something it should clearly not be in and just ready for the whole project to be done and gone.

    Sleepy tonight and have Wes Anderson movies playing in the background( hoping they knock me out). The parentals are coming for a visit tomorrow....


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    I have projects like that sometimes too. I have one waiting for me tomorrow that I'm dreading. I have to replace a flywheel and charge winding on an old welder generator. I like doing the electrical/electronics work but unfortunately I have to do some mechanical work on the generators. I don't do the internal engine work though. I have a good engine shop that I use for that.
     

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    Thanks. I will.
    I guess only some people get stomach ache. I don't from nic but do from a couple other things sometimes.
    Re loose, I bought some small tea bags to try. They'll probably get here about the time I've got
    it down doing loose. I always like to get a good deal. I suppose it'll depend on how often I end up using it
    Placed a big order and my bank performed a fraud check because it was Sweden. Now I can't do it until I go to
    the bank I guess or probably use a regular credit card not debit/credit. centralsunus place? Dips payment place?


    Hi fay! We're pretty reaxed on this side of the tracks. Kick back and sit a spell. I put mine in the back too. It absolutely shows if I load it in the front. Hope you find a flavor that works ( or several :D) and you can finally get off the merry go round. The stomach ache thing seems to hit me if I haven't eaten yet that day.

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    Hi Fayloo and welcome to the dark side. Don't be afraid to show up, we're always looking for new people. I haven't had or heard anything about stomach ills from snus. I suppose some could have issues, but I certainly haven't. I'm a lest to right sider myself. I basically ship it around constantly. I never had any credit card issues and my orders usually are in the $200-300 range to minimize shipping costs. I've used 3 or 4 different Swedish vendors over the last 3 years.

    Gutter, I don't envy you. I've never had much luck with dealing with stuff that doesn't fit easily into the containers they're supposed to fit in when space is limited. I have a vacuum cleaner handle that needs to be taken apart, re soldered and re-assembled. I've already been told it's a bear to work with and get back together. I bought a new one just so if it doesn't get back together, I know the trash goes out om Tuesday.

    Fay, the tea bags work pretty well and you can size them to fit comfortably in your mouth.
     

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    Ha ha dark side. That's funny. I think of it as the natural side actually but depends on what state of mind your and where your at in your quitting smoking I guess. It feels a little naughty but it works and EXCEPT FOR MY BANK'S policies, convenient. I like that satisfied feeling when I have quantity coming or in....like getting hay or having a years worth of DIY and batteries. I'm that way with toilet paper dog food and shoes too. If I could be that way with $ it would fine
     

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    I've been there. Kola nut. Bitter caffeinated pods you chew. Hunks of meat at the open air market with flies buzzin around, bar hall restrooms to have to splash thru and squat near the hole, warm beer, amoebic dysentery, African dance styles, grassy gravey, peanut butter sauce and catapillars, grayish brown gritty manioc wrapped in leaves, bugs the size of rodents, bats in your room at night, not moths, lots of laughing happy extroverted people, impoverished sick people, not super nice to animals at all and I wouldn't be surprised if that chimp didn't get wacked unless maybe they taught it an it was a set up? Looked spontaneous to me.
    I have enough Rape to last until about 7 days and snuff like 2. That's OK. I've never smoked much and sure wouldn't be tempted just because I didn't have my new stuff. I do believe I'll be getting my order of WTA any day now. It's been about 6 weeks. That sound s right.
    It's ridiculous the Swedish snus isn't everywhere like the American snus. I have no clue why it is the way it is. I just need to give my Bank permission to allow the charge tomorrow and there after I guess it won't be a problem. I don't have any $ on my credit card! Used all on Vaping supplies! But really, I'll be caught in a year or so. And then actually stay quite a ways ahead because Nicorette was costing me no less than than $120 a month. I know cigs cost more but still, and of course all this is more fun. See you next time

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    Thanks. I will.
    I guess only some people get stomach ache. I don't from nic but do from a couple other things sometimes.
    Re loose, I bought some small tea bags to try. They'll probably get here about the time I've got
    it down doing loose. I always like to get a good deal. I suppose it'll depend on how often I end up using it
    Placed a big order and my bank performed a fraud check because it was Sweden. Now I can't do it until I go to
    the bank I guess or probably use a regular credit card not debit/credit. centralsunus place? Dips payment place?

    I still use this method for loose snus. I don't do it exclusively but it works well.

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...bbys-official-how-roll-your-own-portions.html

    I have an order coming on Monday from snuscentral and I got a call from my credit card last week checking to see if it was legit. That was a first for me but apparently because it was international they did a check. At least they are keeping an eye on things.

    Snus is way cheaper then gum....... but then you are paying for that FDA approved seal. That seal just gives me a warm and fussy feeling every time.

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    I'm going to try long roll in tea bag. I'm probably going to feed them both into each top back sides. It seems as three sessions day of the largest portion I can manage to keep up there way back on one side will be plenty. And snuff is more like 6 a day and I think I'm probably doing about 2 x more than average per sniff for Torque. When I first tried it last week I remember I tried it ages ago and we dumped it on th web by the thumb joint. It was a moist snuff back then....right, very mild almost unnoticable nicotine since i was smoking at that time i guess. So I dumped my Torque there and snorted it so I'd get it all and not spill. WOW! I'm convinced now my first try was probably 4 times more than average! AND to it that way would make me have to quit pretty soon down the road due to sinus passages being assaulted like that. So....I carefully sniff as much as I can without it falling back out but not to the back of my throat for heavens sake. It's actually pretty funny what a fiend I am. So did I mention here about snus being qualified as food substitute and how appropriate it is the Swedes put it as food in their system? This will be addicting. This I can assure you will be difficult to quit. I've quit many things that aren't good long term. Prescriptions, alcohol, cigarettes, too many sweets, too much butter, too much processed foods and breads. You know all the good stuff that too much of it ends up backfiring and making you feel like crap. I just don't see this happening with snus. The feeling like crap. And as you said, roll a pri and place away from the gum line. Who uses the most per day around this thread? How much is too much? Just the snus I'm asking about. Or sure snuff too. How much is too much of that and why? I don't always ask a bunch questions, I figure it out for myself but I want to know what you guys thing. I've been reading a lot of your posts in various threads, mostly old threads and some the stuff is really really helpful. I wasn't able to get near as much help by reading snuson forum. Must have missed a couple hot threads. Will still look.since this is new to me I'm blabbing everything but I settle down. Thanks ahead!
     

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    Good morning. As far as "how much is too much", You will know by how you feel if you are using too much. I have cut back some. It wasn't necessarily on purpose but I guess what I needed to stay level changed. I used to use 2-3 extra strong portions a day along with 4-5 regular or strong portions. Along with that I was vaping 1-2ml a day of 24-32mg liquid and at one point was using 6-8 pinches of snuff. I've pretty much stopped using snuff except for the occasional pinch and have been using one es portion in the morning with mostly regular portions the rest of the day for a total of around 7-8 portions a day. I'm still vaping about the same and some of it is wta.

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    Good morning. As far as "how much is too much", You will know by how you feel if you are using too much. I have cut back some. It wasn't necessarily on purpose but I guess what I needed to stay level changed. I used to use 2-3 extra strong portions a day along with 4-5 regular or strong portions. Along with that I was vaping 1-2ml a day of 24-32mg liquid and at one point was using 6-8 pinches of snuff. I've pretty much stopped using snuff except for the occasional pinch and have been using one es portion in the morning with mostly regular portions the rest of the day for a total of around 7-8 portions a day. I'm still vaping about the same and some of it is wta.

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    I think many snus users do more then they really need. I am doing 5 to 6 regular strength portions a day but have gone days with using only 4. I felt no ill-effect from using less and had no cravings. The nicotine from smokeless stays in the system a lot longer then from smoking so I can actually go for a good period of time between portions before I feel the need for another one, though I do feel something is missing when I don't have a portion in.

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    Fay, that's an interesting question. If you have caught my posts, you know I was a 43 year, 2-3 PAD smoker when I started this journey over 3 1/2 years ago. In 11 days, I'll have gone 3 years without a single drag on a cigarette. Once I found snus, the cigarettes were history. I have been consistently a 4-5 portion a day snuser for those three years except the last couple weeks when the flu/cold made any use of snus unbearable. When I smoked, it didn't matter how sick I was, I'd smoke. Maybe not as much, but I smoked.

    I have had a day or two that I use six portions but that is extremely rare. I'm almost exclusively a WTA vaper and, at most, I vape 1-2 ml per week. Snuff is very occasionally and just a wonderful little "something else" when I do it. If I were to give any comparison, I'm probably doing about 10% of the nic I was doing when I smoked. I have no concerns, health wise, with what I do today compared to what I was doing to my body before quiting and my body tells me I'm right.

    That being said, I expect my history may catch up to me at some point and I accept that. I made it 65 years with no adverse effects other than wheezing and coughing once FSC was added to the cigarette paper and that only lasted for a year or so before I found e cigs and disappeared whithin a few weeks of dropping my cigarette intake to about a half dozen a day.
     

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    I've always considered myself to be in the category that needs a lot of nic and a lot of alkaloids. I do agree with stubby that sometimes I might use a bit more than I need but most days its just about right. I have cut back from using so many es portions and am using more regular ones now. Not to mention my snuff consumption is almost down to zero. I was a 1.5 pack per day smoker. I smoked newport for a long time and then switched to camel menthol. I tried switching to a cheaper brand but found myself smoking more so went back to the camels. It was a little while after I was up to 1.5 ppd that I realized I needed to do something different. I found out about vaping and did good with that for a few months until I could never get the satisfied feeling I needed. Snus does what regular nic liquids can never do for me.

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