Which one should I get?? Provari Provape or Silver Bullet ?

[Randy C]

I'm getting ready to take the plunge... I want to upgrade from my current Ego 1000 to either a Silver Bullet or Provape. I like simplicity, so variable voltage devices are out of the question for me. My questions are:

Should I order a Silver Bullet or Provape-1? And why????

Will I notice considerable performance gains over my present Ego 1000mah?

 

[GFED]

I'm getting ready to take the plunge... I want to upgrade from my current Ego 1000 to either a Silver Bullet or Provape. I like simplicity, so variable voltage devices are out of the question for me. My questions are:

Should I order a Silver Bullet or Provape-1? And why????

Will I notice considerable performance gains over my present Ego 1000mah?

Hello Randy, I have only been using Ecigs for one week now as of today but here is what I think from what I've learned so far...

1.

Variable Voltage is overrated. In my opinion, it's more of a toy, or something to fiddle around with by bored vaporists. It's just something more that could go wrong or break on your PV. Once you find the right resistance atty to go along with the voltage of your device that creates the power that you prefer to vape at, stick with it.

2.

The Ego-C battery is regulated at 3.3v, so yes upgrading to a PV that is unregulated will give you the full voltage of your batteries thus increasing the power when using whichever resistance atty that you prefer.

3.

I have never seen a bad review about the Silver Bullet. Simple design, durable, and reliable. I haven't looked much into the others but I suggest watching every single YouTube review and/or reading forum reviews until one of them just stands out to you.

 

[Stlphilo]

I like the look and feel to the ProVape and I like the nice solid build of the SB, if I had to choose I would choose the SB. The SB is a nice solid mod that you can change the battery configuration for 3.7v or 6v, I recommend 18650 with LR.

I would recommend a Lava Tube, for the same price as either of those two units you can get the Lava Tube, two 18650 batteries, and a charger and have the option of VV that is as easy as pushing one of two buttons up or down.

Elite Vaporworks has Lava Tube, two AW IMR 18650 batteries, charger, and free shipping for $75.

 

[tj99959]

There are a lot of good choices in the class of PV's that you are looking for. They can be broken down into two sub classes, all mechanical, and wired in switch. Beyond that build quality and form factor are the only differences.
GFED is correct in saying that the SB pretty much sets the standard that others are measured against. For their price one can/should expect mods like the Precise to be of better quality, and mods like the Bolt to be of lesser quality.

I have both a SB and a Mako, and they both function very well.

 

[DaveP]

If you are good at 3.7v and find that you get good performance with all juices, a fixed voltage battery is fine. What I find with variable voltage is that a tenth of a volt up or down makes a difference. With a fixed voltage battery, you get 4.2v at full charge and that drops quickly to 3.7v. Over time, as the battery loses voltage and charge density, the vaping quality changes. The regulated 3.4v from an eGo is good at 2 ohms, but 3.7v is better, especially for some juices.

With a good boost regulated mod, such as the Provari, you get the same vaping voltage on the atomizer from full battery charge down to cutoff. The regulator is able to deliver the selected voltage over time. I can set my Provari V2 to 4.2v and use an inline digital voltmeter to check the output under a cartomizer load in addition to the built-in voltage reading under load. Both meters agree throughout the battery charge life, and I get the same vape after hours of vaping that I get on a fresh charge.

It costs a little more at first, but the satisfaction continues over time with a good VV mod. Good boost regulation is worth the extra cost. At 4.2v on the Provari with a Boge 3.0 ohm carto, I'm getting noticeably better vapor and flavor than I have ever experienced. If I use a 2 ohm Boge, I set it around 3.7v and get virtually the same experience. The difference is that it doesn't change all day. Consistency is the bonus you get from a good regulated ecig.

 

[Tiny]

The two choices you present are both very good and I don't think you'll be disappointed in either.

I like the quality that ProVapes puts into their products, I've got a ProVari and impressed with the build. People who have the Silver Bullet love them also. Seen a couple of bad reviews on both but they are minor to the compared to the favorable ones.

Heck, buy one now, save a few bucks and buy the other in a couple of months. Remember the Vapors' Mantra, backups and backups for your backups.

 

[GFED]

With a fixed voltage battery, you get 4.2v at full charge and that drops quickly to 3.7v. Over time, as the battery loses voltage and charge density, the vaping quality changes.

This is a very good point that I didn't take into account on my opinion of VV PVs.


Thanks Dave

 

[DaveP]

The two choices you present are both very good and I don't think you'll be disappointed in either.

I like the quality that ProVapes puts into their products, I've got a ProVari and impressed with the build. People who have the Silver Bullet love them also. Seen a couple of bad reviews on both but they are minor to the compared to the favorable ones.

Heck, buy one now, save a few bucks and buy the other in a couple of months. Remember the Vapors' Mantra, backups and backups for your backups.

I value all my ecigs and consider them insurance against being out of vapable hardware (which might make me turn to tobacco in the interim). I found myself ordering all the new stuff as it came out. Had I just bought the Provari a year ago, I could have spent the money I dropped on tanks, attys, and batteries on what I eventually found to be the answer.

Two Ego 1000mah batteries will cost you $50. A pair of AW 18650 IMR batteries go for around $22-$24. That's a half price savings each time you need new batts. Cartos and DCT tanks are about all you need with a good VV mod since you can dial in the sweet spot at will. In the long run I view a good VV mod to be cheaper, even if you pay an additional $ amount for a Lavatube. Provari or other VV mod at first.

I like this online catalog. It gives you the specs, MSRP, and reviews of features for virtually all of the mods available and is updated periodically. Click the "Browse by Features" link under the menu to select the list by the features you want in an ecig. There are many ways to view this database.
http://www.ecigarette-mods.com/

 

[Cookster]

Have you looked at Joyetech's new eGo-C Twist? It has the same form factor as your eGo, has Variable Voltage from 3.2-4.8 volts, and is less than $30. I have 2, and I love them

 

[Liv2Ski]

I'm getting ready to take the plunge... I want to upgrade from my current Ego 1000 to either a Silver Bullet or Provape. I like simplicity, so variable voltage devices are out of the question for me. My questions are:

Should I order a Silver Bullet or Provape-1? And why????

Will I notice considerable performance gains over my present Ego 1000mah?

Price range is about the same for either. Performance gains = Yes. You will get the 4.2 volts off the charger vs the 3.3/3.4 you are getting off the eGo.

I have many Mod's and the two in question are both in my collection and hopefully the following will help you:

Build quality: Provape wins
Size: Provape is the diameter of a dime, SB is bigger than a quarter. So if you want small size then Provape
Batts: Provape 14500 only and preferably the AW's, SB 18XXX style batts with various options and ability to drop a Evolv Kick Module in for Variable power using a 18500 batt. Batt versatility and options means the SB wins here
Looks: IMO the Provape wins
Protection circuitry: Provape wins
Pocket friendly: Tough one here. The Provape button is higher than the body and can be fire when in a back pocket, no problems in a shirt or coat pocket. The SB has a recessed button and it is less likely to fire in a pocket. Problem is the SB is chunky and not really pocket friendly. You may want to put it in your front jeans pocket while out at the bar

My preference if I could only buy one and was comfortable with a single voltage would be the Provape. I like the SB but the switch on mine acts up sometimes and the size of it means it is mostly used in the man cave and never really leaves the house. The Provape has been performing flawlessly for more than 18 months. Best of luck with whatever MOD you decide on and happy vapes

 

[ChinMullet]

I had to decide the same thing, and went with the Silver Bullet. The last thing I wanted while quitting smoking was any possible stress from twiddling with my mod, or it breaking. The SB is built like a rock. I just put a battery in, screw in a tank or cart, and go. I've dropped it on concrete a few times. Picked it up, pushed the button, and went on with my life.

 

[Randy C]

WOW! What a wealth of information... Thanks for everyone's replies. Prior to posting this, I would have never considered a VV mod, but I got to be honest... I'm beginning to lean that way now.

One question.... I have fallen in love with the new Visions clearomizer! What would be needed to fit Clearomizers on both the SB and Provari?

 

[Tiny]

A VV mod is a great choice. I bought a ProVari because of the durability, the VV was a secondary consideration, but being able to "tune in" the juices that I use was an unexpected benefit. It made a huge improvement in my vaping experience. It's not difficult to learn how to use it, and it's fun to experiment.

I can't help with the clearomizers, I don't have one yet, but I'm sure someone will be along to help. Best of luck in whatever you choose!

 

[Randy C]

I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for your feedback. Some really interesting info you guys posted.

I made a decision...I ordered the Provari VV today- for a few reasons... I really like the utilitarian, built tough design of the Silver Bullet, but the only way I would have bought the SB, would have been if I found a "Kick" to regulate it's watts. Unfortunately "kicks" have not been available for some time. Also, when I added the cost of the Silver Bullet, 18650 2600mah batteries, the kick sleeve, and the kick- the cost of the Provari wasn't a whole lot more. I'm kinda cheap, so I have a tough time swallowing the cost of the Provari, but staying off analogs remains job#1 for me. And... after all- it really is life or death.

I really like the idea of Provari's optional 2 year warrantee (which I bought) and Im excited to try my upgraded 18650 2000mah AW IMR batteries.

But I'm also excited to try something else new...since I've been vaping, I've tried everything from carts to atty's, etc, and found the best thing for me (so far) has been the Visions Ego clearomizers. I let a friend of mine talk me into buying DCT tanks and single coil 3ohm carts from Provari's website. My buddy swears by this set up. He said when running these carts in DCT tanks, his carts stay clean and his vape tastes good- right up until the coils give out.

 

[donnah]

The main reason I went with vv is the consistency of the voltage. With my 3.7 devices I was always switching out for fresh batts. I wanted something that gave consistent voltage. The provari is very simple and easy to use and will give consistent voltage of whatever you set till the batt needs recharging. I don't regret spending that money one bit! (Its fun to play with too!)

Now prepare to keep checking the site for your order to be processed and then stalking the mailman lol

I also use 3ohm boges in the dc tanks..love them!

 

[TravTech]

Congrats on a very good choice, you won't be disappointed.

In order to get the clearomizer or any other "Ego only" type device to attach to your new Provari, you will need what's called a "510 to 510 Adapter".

If you go back to the Provapes site and to the Page you ordered from, you'll see down below a pretty long list of optional accessories. It is listed there.

You may be able to get one a buck or two cheaper elsewhere, but then you gotta worry if it might be a little too long and makes a gap.

But if you hurry, you may be able to get them to add one to your order.


I use one to sometimes connect my Ego-C cone and tank. With a little extra power behind it from the Provari, it actually gives a helluva good vape.

 

[jkmtwo]

Really? You've been vaping for a week? And you think VV is overated? Ah, well who could possibly disagree?

No really, if you weren't just a week old noob you would know that VV is 2nd only to VW.

Hello Randy, I have only been using Ecigs for one week now as of today but here is what I think from what I've learned so far...

1.

Variable Voltage is overrated. In my opinion, it's more of a toy, or something to fiddle around with by bored vaporists. It's just something more that could go wrong or break on your PV. Once you find the right resistance atty to go along with the voltage of your device that creates the power that you prefer to vape at, stick with it.

2.

The Ego-C battery is regulated at 3.3v, so yes upgrading to a PV that is unregulated will give you the full voltage of your batteries thus increasing the power when using whichever resistance atty that you prefer.

3.

I have never seen a bad review about the Silver Bullet. Simple design, durable, and reliable. I haven't looked much into the others but I suggest watching every single YouTube review and/or reading forum reviews until one of them just stands out to you.

 

[TravTech]

Really? You've been vaping for a week? And you think VV is overated? Ah, well who could possibly disagree?

No really, if you weren't just a week old noob you would know that VV is 2nd only to VW.

LOL I was originally going to jump on that too, but decided to bite my tongue instead.

Actually, VV = VW cuz when you vary the V you are also varying the W.

I think what you might mean would be a device keeping constant V vs keeping constant W. But I know things are often called something different than what they actually do.

Provari tries to keep the voltage constant regardless of battery charge (until the battery gets too low). The Darwin tries (battery charge allowing) to keep a constant wattage regardless of any load (resistance) changes.

Funny part is, The Dawrin IS actually varying the voltage in relation to the load in order to keep the wattage constant.

Dunno if I'd actually say one is better than the other imo. One is newer to the vaping world but to me it's just a different approach or way to measure the same thing. The goal of both is to keep the vape quaility constant.

Next big thing will be variable current LOL.

 

[jkmtwo]

No VW is not the same as VV.

VV is nice, but is only half the equation, ohms are the other half.

With VW one doesn't worry about ohms and voltage. The device may vary the voltage to achieve the desired wattage, but its very different. As an owner of a Provari, which I love, a Darwin, and a couple of Kicked PVs, believe me, there is no comparing the 2.

 

[jkmtwo]

Let me rephrase a few things here.....

When we talk about VW and VV, it helps to understand certain things, with VV there is a learning curve, where as with VW there is no learning curve. In the case of the Darwin, it takes all the thinking out of the equation of VV, one only needs to set the Darwin to the desired wattage, and that's what it does, no matter what, where as a VV mod will only supply the desired voltage, wattage, or experience, is still a numbers game.