Which would you recommend for a first PV: Prodigy or Protege?

[DonDaBoomVape]

Assuming you had to choose from either the Prodigy or the Protege...For someone looking to make the switch from analogs to vaping: which would you recommend for a first PV: Prodigy or Protege?

Preface to the following: I just received my Prodigy yesterday. [Yes, I'm still in that wow-wow-wow, in love stage.] Many of my postings these days (even before receiving the PD) have been touting Puresmoker devices. However...

I don't think either would appeal to a newbie. Do you know any newbie who didn't want their e-cig to look at least something like an analog? I initially was attracted to the Blu, but did some investigating here and stretched myself (and the e-cig length) to a KR808D-1 as my first purchase. Then on to the penstyle (it was long, but elegant looking).

And you all know why I eventually saw the light (constant battery charging, limited throat hit, little vapor, so-so flavor - take your pick). [Actually, I thought the KR808D-1 throat hit and the 801 vapor were pretty good (for the first few minutes with a freshly charged battery).]

I remember my newbie reaction to the photos of the SD, GG, and PD in Elendil's thread in the New Members' forum. Whoa! Weird much?8-o [I won't describe in mixed company my feelings about the Lite Vapor.] I will say that the PD was the least off-putting (somewhat elegant).

A cigar smoker might very well be comfortable with the Protege (based on the sneak peak photo). And a pipe smoker might be open to the Prodigy (although the 601 is the more obvious choice).

I assume that Steve's target market is not newbies but disenchanted mini and super-mini users (thus the available adapters) and that the Protege is going after especially the 510 crowd.

 

[StratOvation]

IMHO... All this talk about learning curves, graduating through different devices, etc. is just that...Talk. All PV devices are going to require some exposure to get comfortable with them.

I have been recommending the Prodigy since I've had mine... For one reason... It produces a vapor that most closely simulates tobacco smoke and due to that, It offers the greatest likleyhood of transitioning from analogs. Not to mention all the headaches avoided by starting with the best designed PV to date.

 

[SharonLM]

IMHO... All this talk about learning curves, graduating through different devices, etc. is just that...Talk. All PV devices are going to require some exposure to get comfortable with them.

I have been recommending the Prodigy since I've had mine... For one reason... It produces a vapor that most closely simulates tobacco smoke and due to that, It offers the greatest likleyhood of transitioning from analogs. Not to mention all the headaches avoided by starting with the best designed PV to date.

That's true Strat, however, I found even after using the 4081, 901 and 510 that when I switched to the mod's I had to learn on a different level. The first three because they weren't manual switches worked well for me as a beginner and I didn't worry about burning out an atty. When I got to the mod's I had to be a little more careful.

However (again), like you I like to recommend the Prodigy even to a beginner because I KNOW they will be satisfied and they won't waste the money I did. But I make sure they realize that they are starting out with a PV that takes a little more understanding and a little more babying then the cheaper models. But, they won't have all the headaches of charging batteries, etc. They will maintain a consistent vapor and hit and will be much more satisfied.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

My stated reservation about recommending either Puresmoker device (also applies to the PT or *any* PT) has less to do with learning curve than receptivity/expectations.

Again my question: Do you know of *any* analog smoker who was open to purchasing a Prodigy, SD, GG, or JS as their first e-cig? [If so, my commendations to that individual for willingness to really stretch their comfort zone!]

I would unhesitatingly tout the advantages of the Puresmoker family of PVs, but I would expect and allow for resistance. Instead, I'd see if I could interest them in the 510 (from which they could easily transition to a P... device).

And I still think the KR808D-1 (e.g., Vapor King) is not a bad choice for a beginner: simple 2-piece unit with no liquid handling required.

IM(not so humble)O

 

[StratOvation]

My stated reservation about recommending either Puresmoker device (also applies to the PT or *any* PT) has less to do with learning curve than receptivity/expectations.

Again my question: Do you know of *any* analog smoker who was open to purchasing a Prodigy, SD, GG, or JS as their first e-cig? [If so, my commendations to that individual for willingness to really stretch their comfort zone!]

I would unhesitatingly tout the advantages of the Puresmoker family of PVs, but I would expect and allow for resistance. Instead, I'd see if I could interest them in the 510 (from which they could easily transition to a P... device).

And I still think the KR808D-1 (e.g., Vapor King) is not a bad choice for a beginner: simple 2-piece unit with no liquid handling required.

IM(not so humble)O

Don, I started with a penstyle for this simple reason ... It did NOT ressemble an analog. Had I been aware of the SD last year, I would've prolly gone that route. Remember, I wanted a device that would be easier to pass off as something other than a tobacco product. I was hoping to avoid any hassles when used in public non-smoking venues.

I use the Prodigy as my primary device when out 'n about, So if someone approaches and asks Me what I'm using and what device I would recommend, I make the assumption that they are not put-off by the form factor or size.

However, If someone asked my opinion for a smaller, cylinder shaped version? I'd prolly refer to the 510 style, based strictly on the reviews I've seen.

 

[Mr_Slippery]

If I had it to do all over again, I would get an 801 or 901 manual usb passthrough a couple of atomizers, juice, and replace my "at home" cigarettes with this.

You can find them for 15-20 bucks or so just check the vendors area.
Get the one without the battery.
They work best from a wall charger or kensington portable power pack. (optional, but recommended)
They usually break after a week, but it's money well spent to test the waters.

This way you can decide if you like vaping in the privacy of your home.
I think its important to determine if vaping in any form is feasible before going all out and wasting money.

After that if the manual passthrough is satisfying enough, get the protege.
If you need more ooomph go with the Prodigy.

Either way you have your atomizers and juice already, so the only wasted money is the cheap usb passthrough...

 

[tescela]

IMHO... All this talk about learning curves, graduating through different devices, etc. is just that...Talk. All PV devices are going to require some exposure to get comfortable with them.

I have been recommending the Prodigy since I've had mine... For one reason... It produces a vapor that most closely simulates tobacco smoke and due to that, It offers the greatest likleyhood of transitioning from analogs. Not to mention all the headaches avoided by starting with the best designed PV to date.

My sentiments exactly. You nailed it on the head.

Strat, I'm starting to think that you are my "brother from another mother."

 

[tescela]

If I had it to do all over again, I would get an 801 or 901 manual usb passthrough a couple of atomizers, juice, and replace my "at home" cigarettes with this.

You can find them for 15-20 bucks or so just check the vendors area.
Get the one without the battery.
They work best from a wall charger or kensington portable power pack. (optional, but recommended)
They usually break after a week, but it's money well spent to test the waters.

This way you can decide if you like vaping in the privacy of your home.
I think its important to determine if vaping in any form is feasible before going all out and wasting money.

After that if the manual passthrough is satisfying enough, get the protege.
If you need more ooomph go with the Prodigy.

Either way you have your atomizers and juice already, so the only wasted money is the cheap usb passthrough...

When you refer to a newbie getting a usb passthrough, is it safe to assume that you are NOT suggesting that they purchase a USBpass?

I'm asking, because if a newbie starts with a USBpass and likes it, then would the Protege be a disappointment due to its lower voltage?

 

[Robert]

Protege you say? is there a link?

 

[StratOvation]

My sentiments exactly. You nailed it on the head.

Strat, I'm starting to think that you are my "brother from another mother."

LOL T. We do seem to come down on the same side of many fences.

 

[Mr_Slippery]

When you refer to a newbie getting a usb passthrough, is it safe to assume that you are NOT suggesting that they purchase a USBpass?

I'm asking, because if a newbie starts with a USBpass and likes it, then would the Protege be a disappointment due to its lower voltage?

Yep that's what I meant, get el-cheapo passthrough for 15-20 bucks or so, then decide if you want more power or not.

You could go with the PS USBpass as well. Its only $40 bucks and built to last. If it's too strong, get a protege, if just right get the Prodigy.

So either way really you won't be in bad shape.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Don, I started with a penstyle for this simple reason ... It did NOT ressemble an analog. Had I been aware of the SD last year, I would've prolly gone that route. Remember, I wanted a device that would be easier to pass off as something other than a tobacco product. I was hoping to avoid any hassles when used in public non-smoking venues.

I use the Prodigy as my primary device when out 'n about, So if someone approaches and asks Me what I'm using and what device I would recommend, I make the assumption that they are not put-off by the form factor or size.

However, If someone asked my opinion for a smaller, cylinder shaped version? I'd prolly refer to the 510 style, based strictly on the reviews I've seen.

In my previous post I said: "my commendations to that individual for willingness to really stretch their comfort zone!" I stand by that. Your comfort zone is more elastic than mine. Well done!


And I have two questions:

1. Those people who approach you; isn't it possible (likely?) that they are merely curious about that weird* thing in your mouth, rather than seriously interested in sticking it in their own mouth? I wonder how many (any?) then go out and buy a Prodigy (or start saving for one).
2. I haven't settled in yet on a posture for vaping in public. Still feeling my way. So far I've gone the low-profile route: vaping mainly outdoors. What kind of reaction/receptivity are you getting from people (e.g., restaurateurs, shopkeepers) to overt vaping in non-smoking zones? Have you been able to avoid those hassles?

* "weird" - Don't take offense. Remember that I now also have that weird thing in my mouth.

 

[WorldPax]

IMHO... All this talk about learning curves, graduating through different devices, etc. is just that...Talk. All PV devices are going to require some exposure to get comfortable with them.

I have been recommending the Prodigy since I've had mine... For one reason... It produces a vapor that most closely simulates tobacco smoke and due to that, It offers the greatest likleyhood of transitioning from analogs. Not to mention all the headaches avoided by starting with the best designed PV to date.

Exactly! If I knew then what I knew now, I'd be able to buy 3 Prodigys. First question should be "does it satisfy my need"? I have a 510 now as my primary, one of the highest rated devices on this forum, and it's hit or miss for me. Add to that the constant battery switching, cart refilling, and general clutter of paraphernalia, it's running my life.

I was never more than a pack a day smoker. I'm not a constant vaper. I just need something that takes the pain away and does not require my constant attention. If the prodigy fits that bill, I'm hoping it does, then I could care less how much it looks like a regular cig. Make it in the shape of a flamingo and paint it pink, I'll fire that bird up, call me a homo I don't care. And I'd say the same if it was my first device ever.

People are overthinking this stuff.

 

[Closet Toker]

Go with the prodigy. You will start right at "the top". It is probably one of the best vapor producers on the market. Read reviews and determine which style atomizer will fit your needs. I have the DSE901. I mostly drip, but the 901 atomizer's airhole leaks like a ...... But the vapor production is Amazing! I might try a 801 atomizer down the road, those are supposed to drip good.

 

[StratOvation]

In my previous post I said: "my commendations to that individual for willingness to really stretch their comfort zone!" I stand by that. Your comfort zone is more elastic than mine. Well done!



And I have two questions:

1. Those people who approach you; isn't it possible (likely?) that they are merely curious about that weird* thing in your mouth, rather than seriously interested in sticking it in their own mouth? I wonder how many (any?) then go out and buy a Prodigy (or start saving for one). Anythings possible Don, But I don't actually have it in my mouth for more than a few seconds at a time and it is really not very visible in my hand. After handing out several PS cards and writing the website address down for many others.... I'm only aware of a couple of people that have actually bought thier own, and thats fine by Me... Not like I'm a PS salesman actually trying to sell them.
2. I haven't settled in yet on a posture for vaping in public. Still feeling my way. So far I've gone the low-profile route: vaping mainly outdoors. What kind of reaction/receptivity are you getting from people (e.g., restaurateurs, shopkeepers) to overt vaping in non-smoking zones? Have you been able to avoid those hassles? I tend to get approval from someone (manager, waitress, hostess, etc.) prior to using any PV in a Non-smoking environment. After a simple explanation/demo, most places allow it with a stipulation... If thier staff becomes bothered by inquiries/complaints from other customers who assume I'm smoking, they will ask Me to put it away... And that works for Me.

* "weird" - Don't take offense. Remember that I now also have that weird thing in my mouth.

Just to clarify... I'm not out looking to stir the pot. I avoid using a PV in non-smoking areas when convienient. I find the majority of people that do approach with questions, are smokers with a lit cig in thier hand and almost without exception, the first question folks ask (after I give 'em my little explanation speech) is... Does it really feel like smoking... Is it satisfying? 2nd question is either regarding taste or cost vs. cigs.

Mike

 

[StratOvation]

Make it in the shape of a flamingo and paint it pink, I'll fire that bird up.

Now thats funny Right There!!! I don't care who ya are!!!

LMAO!!! Get down wit yo Bad ... Flamingo Smokin self !!!!

"I'll fire that Bird up!" Thats gotta be a classic line iffin' I ever heard one!!!