Why do some people continue to buy premade coils and juice?

[coughgasm]

It can be a little intimidating. It sort of sounds like the argument, why do people buy packaged cigarettes rather than rolling their own. Some people are more about convenience than they are about cost-efficiency and effectiveness.

 

[madangus]

Premade coils.. The kabuki is a fantastic tank and it uses nautilus coils. Easily matches the kayfun for taste and vapour, but I do have kayfuns and rdas for sometimes or wen that is the only feasible option. I haven't done that many coils yet, but wicking in under 5 minutes... Best i have it to is about 10. Good for you if you are faster, i just don't have full faith in diy claims at this point in terms of how easy it is. Cheaper? Yup full comtrol? Yup fda proof? As anything can be... But super quick and easy.... Mmm maybe after a lot of practice, maybe.

As for juice, i have nic base, and i will do it when i have to. But i did a bunch of review reading and have got very little premixed juice that tasted like garbage. 95% has been great tasting. And that aspect is still fun to me. I also don't believe that there isn't going to be a bunch of time and trial and error involved as i learn.

Time is worth a lot to some folks, some don't have the ability, some just want to vape.

I don't think there is anything inherently virtuous about saving money by DIYing. If you are happy and it gives you satisfaction, great. But i dunno if it makes you feel 'superior' to folks buying stuff... It's not like it has any real impact to anything other than your wallet and happiness.

It's a fair question but there is some sanctimonious quality to some od the replies these threads always get... You spent $100 a year, great. Are you happy? Alright, quit the judginess lol

 

[USACelt]

Just me, vaping isn't a hobby nor do I ever want to become one.
I have far more important/valuable things to do with my time than to fiddle around with vaping stuff.

The amount I spend on replacement heads and the pre made juices I like is insignificant in comparison to what I used to spend on cigarettes.
What we (both my wife & I) spend on pre made juice & replacement heads in a months time is about the same as what I alone used to spend on cigarettes in a week to maybe 10 days.

I have rda/rta/rba's , various wicking materials & various wire, most of the time it all sits in a drawer unused. Occasionally I'll build something, mostly to remind myself why I don't.
I've tried my hand at DIY juice, no thanks.

I completely support & understand that some folks enjoy the hobbyist / DIY side of vaping but it isn't for me or everyone.
No different than many wouldn't want to participate in hobby's I enjoy.

To each their own, enjoy what ever blows your skirt up and don't worry about what others do.

I didn't think I wanted to mess with coils or DIY when I started vaping just wanted off the stinkies and it has evolved to a hobby of sorts now. I still rely on pre-made coils while traveling and occasionally but a pre-made while out for long trips.
I think the DIY,coil build thing is kinda like a cool hotrod or custom motorcycle, some people just cant leave anything stock to save their live. lol
A stock vehicle will get you there just the same,but a hotrod, well. You get IT.

 

[Jman8]

Going into to year 5 and I'm still on cigalike device with clearos. And I (proudly) dual use. My reasons for not building my own are:
- really doesn't seem expensive to do it this way. I spend most money on clearos. Batteries have lifetime warranty, and 100 ml of juice will last me longer than 3 months. 10 clearos last me about 3 to 6 weeks. I often get juice in 15 ml bottles (say 7 of those at a time) and spend around $50, including shipping to my door.
- enjoy supporting vendors. If you enjoying making stuff and want to sell, and are in business, let's talk. Perhaps I'll meet up with you in the underground market.
- partially cause I'm a little lazy

I may get into DIY at some point and do think I'd probably be very good at it. Then I'll still hope to flavor explore and support vendors that are better than me and making the other 9,999,999 flavors I don't care to make.

The amount of people that vocally enjoy DIY-ing strikes me as underground market is going to be alive and well, unless suddenly all vapers do a 180 and are only in it for themselves.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

First, vaping is not just a hobby, it is a replacement for smoking.
Second, not everyone buys way way way overpriced juice.
Third, not everyone has the eye sight and/or coordination to build coils...Wire is tiny, the holes in the posts are tiny and, hell, even the 22mm deck is tiny to me, I can do it, but it is a major PITA for me

So if I can spend $10-15 for 5 premade coils that will last me 10-15 weeks, damn right I'm going that route


Why do people go out to eat, food is cheaper when you make it yourself...even cheaper when you kill it yourself

 

[jumphour]

When I was on my big buying frenzy, I bought some wire, cotton, some RBA's, and was ready to go. But then I went from using Kanger Aerotanks to the Nautilus, and that stuff is still sitting in boxes, collecting dust. I haven't even tried to build a coil. I guess I'm lazy, still kinda scared about safety, and those Nautilus coils last me for weeks and weeks! I don't know enough about ohms and such yet, and I never vape above 9 watts anyways....I'm just using vaping to not smoke.

I DID however start making my own juice to save money, and that has been awesome. My ADV is just 20% Extreme Ice from FlavorWest, and I have big bottles of PG and VG, and I dilute 24mg/ml nic down to less than 5mg/ml. Next time I buy nic, I'll buy a higher percentage to save money, but still low enough that it doesn't scare me to store and use it! I have a bunch of flavors to play with, too, when I get bored. DIY has been great.

 

[sparkky1]

First, vaping is not just a hobby, it is a replacement for smoking.
Second, not everyone buys way way way overpriced juice.
Third, not everyone has the eye sight and/or coordination to build coils...Wire is tiny, the holes in the posts are tiny and, hell, even the 22mm deck is tiny to me, I can do it, but it is a major PITA for me

So if I can spend $10-15 for 5 premade coils that will last me 10-15 weeks, damn right I'm going that route


Why do people go out to eat, food is cheaper when you make it yourself...even cheaper when you kill it yourself

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[WillyZee]

Why do some people continue to buy premade coils and juice?

maybe they have discovered the Magic of the Kabuki

 

[Lessifer]

I don't have the space for DIY supplies, though I did buy some nic for the freezer. I also like buying premade liquid. I have my staples that I reorder, and then I like trying new things. I'd rather not keep buying flavorings and spending time mixing new recipes. Also, I like the fact that we have the option to buy premade liquid and will support the vendors that I enjoy so that they will hopefully be around in the future.

I do wrap my own coils for all of my atomizers though.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I rarely eat out for the same reason.
Good food is hard to find, and we know what we are eating at home.
It's better made and better quality.

I actually DIY anything I can (within reason).
Why not?
I have the ability, it saves a ton of money, it's always better quality, and I know what I have.

I prefer zippo over Bic.

I'm personally not a fan of a disposable lifestyle.

i built my own zippo.....worked better and saved my a ton of money.....

 

[Lessifer]

i built my own zippo.....worked better and saved my a ton of money.....

Yeah, but if you weren't mixing your own lighter fuel, you weren't doing it right

 

[Oberon75]

I dont really have time for DIY. I do make my own coils though since I absolutely despise vaping with a tank.

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[Asbestos4004]

Yeah, but if you weren't mixing your own lighter fuel, you weren't doing it right

I'd sneak into airports and siphon it out of jets....not sure if that counts.

 

[sofarsogood]

When I build a coil it lasts me about 3 months, costs me less than $0.03 and is made of higher quality kanthal than anything premade, tuned exactly to the way I want to vape.
Juice cost me about $1 for 120ml of better quality juice than one can buy at any price.
I have a kid too. Not my first.
If I can keep him out of the bleach and cleaning products, a bottle of nic obviously isn't too hard.
I stopped smoking to break the financial tether, not to be bound by a new one.
Yes, to each their own.

I believe that ecigs will end the Tobacco Age because of the cost advantage, not health concerns. American smokers are affluent and can spend more on vaping if they choose but they are only 3% of the smokers in the world. A lot of the other 97% are going to be impressed by the idea they can replace cigarettes with something that costs about $100 a year. The least expensive cigarettes in the world can't compete with that.

I believe the least expensive quality cigarettes in the world are in Cambodia and are about $10 a carton. A carton a week is still $500.

 

[Mowgli]

How many people in the world vape? How many even know that places like ecf even exist?
Most these days walk into the same place they bought cigarettes, and buy whatever disposable they happen to have on the shelf.
To them that stuff in the cartridge/bottle is some magical stuff that keeps the from smoking a cigarette. That's all they know, and all they care about.
They don't even know that DIY is possible. And, if they do know that DIY is possible, they think that you need a bunch of expensive lab equipment to do it.

And we certainly help with that perception.

Bursardo thinks he's ready

OTOH - I paid
about $25 for my plastic (hydrophobic) graduated cylinders (25, 50 & 100ml)
about $20 worth of 1ml, 3ml, 6ml, 12ml & 20ml Monoject syringes (washable)
$30 for a Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner
negligible pennies for the rubber band and piece of dog kibble to keep the "on" button depressed on it
stupid 2 year old USC refuses to die. I'd just get the same el cheapo anyway
under $5 for Wally World reading glasses
about $50 worth of 250ml, 120ml, 60ml & 30ml amber or blue glass bottles with polycone caps
Quite the Heisenberg setup for under 2 weeks worth of Taxachusetts cancersticks

I like my Velocity RDA at 80W.
I get a similar vape with Crown coils at the same wattage without the hassle of wicking/dripping.
That's what keeps me from smoking.

I buy a $20 bottle of a juice I like sometimes when I visit a vape shop because I can afford to.
That's 30ml for $20.
1000ml of my DIY is about $20 and it's about as tasty and sometimes much better than premade.
I don't buy premade often.

Why do people buy premade juice and coils?
Because they can.

 

[WillyZee]

i built my own zippo.....worked better and saved my a ton of money.....

lol ...

 

[Bad Ninja]

Why do people buy premade juice and coils?
Because they can.

Fair enough.
Lol
I spend that extra dough on gear so it all washes out I guess.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I do make my own juice.... I have that kind of time. I'd be willing to bet I can whip up a liter of hazelnut vanilla custard quicker than most folks can enter their cc information.
I also build my own coils. I use bottom feeder Mods almost exclusively. Not many pre made coils available that are worth putting in a stumpy rda. And again, I could probably have it built and wicked faster than I can order something online.
But, it took lots of store bought juice and prebuilt gear to get to this point. What is this point, you ask? The point where I've discovered what works best for me....and the point where I have nothing but respect for however someone else chooses to vape. For I am a professional vaper.....hahahhahaaaa

 

[house mouse]

I make my own coils and DIY my own juice. I didn't get into it to save money. I got into it to become a self sufficient vaper for my own peace of mind should the government decide to lose their minds.What I have learned about DIYing juice is that it takes practice and there's a few failures along the way(a lot like learning to cook). And sometimes I'd give up and go back to store bought. Then that little worrisome part of my mind would start reminding me about the FDA and I'd read a lot more about DIYing and try again. And eventually I got it all dialed in to my liking. I've been making my own for the last couple of years and thoroughly enjoy what I'm making now. And although saving money wasn't my initial goal for learning how to do it, the savings are quite remarkable. Start up costs aren't cheap and there's a learning curve with figuring out which flavors/recipes work for you. But once dialed in the cost savings are there.As an example, my favorite bought juice cost $40 for 120ml. My current favorite DIY runs about $2.00 for the same amount. Those of you sitting on the sidelines with a stash of nic intending to DIY if it all goes south might want to consider boning up on it and practicing now.Then you'll be ready, come what may. For myself, I would have been in a world of hurt trying to make something vapeable without a store bought option to fall back on while I learned.

 

[EJAB]

I pay $21 for 90ml that tastes great. Not worth the trouble of making it yet.

There's nothing wrong with purchasing ejuice, but I make 90ml for under $5.00 and money isn't an issue for me. I just like knowing what is actually in my ejuices.