Why don't we have a Kayfun (any version, originals and clones) owners group?
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Sure! Although I think it isn't fair. Rebuilding kanger heads is super easy. As long as you have 3mm silica wick and the dual coil heads, you can rebuild one in less than 5 minutes. If you have those new "upgraded" ones, it will take a couple of minutes more because you will need to remove that damm sleeve and "convert" it to the old style.
There are only 3 tricks:
1. In the end, regardless of making a single or dual coil head, you have to have 3 stacked 3mm wicks in the groove to ensure no flooding and no dry hits.
2. always use the wick itself as wrapping guide to get a tight contact between the coil and the wick. The kanger tanks are bottom feeders so too much flow is more of an issue than lack of flow.
3. when cutting the excess legs off, make dam sure there isn't any izzy tiny piece sticking out of the plus pole because as you tight down the tank on the mod, the pin will rotate and short out the coil (or coils) if there is any piece of wire sticking out.
The rest is a no-brainer... for a single coil setup, wrap the coil around two 3mm silica strings (bottom 2) and let the third on the top (to act as something like a taste wick). In a double coil setup, use the bottom and top wick to make the coils and leave the middle one to act as a taste wick and spacer. You can make all the coils you like as long as you respect those 3 points above and I assure you they will all work better or worse but without dry hits or gurgling
Now back to kayfuns
As I've read, kayfun's design isn't exactly a bottom feeder one like say the aerotanks for example. The liquid is pushed inside the chamber through negative differential pressure as you take a draw so, in theory, it should be much more prone to dry hits than in flooding (as opposed to a protank that should flood easier than give dry hits). Is this true?
Regards
Tony
Tony, earnest apologies for the late comeback. Out of town again attending family health issues —everything ok now, fortunately.
Don't sell yourself short, the tips you gave us are, at least in my case, new. All my Kanger rebuilds came out bad. I'll try again as you say. What would you use for a 1.5Ω build on the Aero? Guess you would have to do a dual coil with 32 ga on a 2mm form —according to my calc it comes around 7 wraps.
Have you already got your Kayfun? I haven't read to the bottom of the thread yet.
Best,
Jorge.
Andria, sorry for the late comeback. Out of town tending family health issues, everything fine now tho.
2.5mm come around 1/10 inch (1 inch = 25.4mm) but you won't find a bit that size. I would use either a 1/8 (~3mm) or a 3/32 (~2.4mm).
The best plug for the airhole is a section of a round toothpick. Use your nail clipper to test where it fits and cut a section about 1/8". Force it in with needlenose pliers leaving about half out.. The liquid will expand it for a perfect plug. It can be removed if needed.
Best,
Jorge.
No no no... You shouldn't use any special diameter to make the coil as you will make it wrapped around the wick so the diameter will be approximate only. I know that we want to make nice perfect coils but the build itself will suck. You need to be sloppy lol.
To make a 1.5 ohm coil you can :
For single coil :
7 wraps of 29 gauge or 3-4 wraps of 32 gauge
For dual coil :
2 coils with 8 wraps of 32 gauge each
Kayfun nano is out for delivery so I should get it tomorrow or Thursday. The kayfun mini is stuck in customs... Don't know when I will get it... I hate buying outside the EU
To make a 1.5 ohm coil you can :
For single coil :
7 wraps of 29 gauge or 3-4 wraps of 32 gauge
For dual coil :
2 coils with 8 wraps of 32 gauge each
Kayfun nano is out for delivery so I should get it tomorrow or Thursday. The kayfun mini is stuck in customs... Don't know when I will get it... I hate buying outside the EU
Does anyone know what this marking is on the bottom of the latest KFL+ v2's ? VR something? my eyes seem to be getting to old to read what the markings are around that VR logo thing. It's an Authentic I picked up last week at VapeCan, google kept bringing up links to VapeRev when searching for "Kayfun with VR logo".. (Did they brand some they're selling?)..
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Never saw something like that. Are those words on the left of the acronym? Maybe a macro shot so we can try to decipher it?
This is so cool... "the mysterious hieroglyphics on an authentic Kayfun"
Looks like that part was engraved at a different time or another method was used as the lettering seems off from the rest.
This is so cool... "the mysterious hieroglyphics on an authentic Kayfun"
Looks like that part was engraved at a different time or another method was used as the lettering seems off from the rest.
Yes when I used that chart or app that someone gave a link to, it came up with 3/32. Got tons of those!
Great tip about the toothpick; it's funny, when I was still using my T3S tanks, I used a toothpick to block one of those airholes too; stick the tip in, break it off, instant airflow block, and they come out very easily if you want more airflow.
So I gotta get my husband on drilling that hole for me. He'll enjoy it, he always likes to break out the power tools at the slightest provocation.
Guess I'll have to let him use my vise to hold it still. But I'm intrigued to find out if a) that crappy clone can be made usable this way, and b) if I'll like a drip-type better with a kayfun-type build.One thing I'm wondering, though -- I don't like an airy draw, not at all; I don't do lung hits, and I like to feel *some* resistance in the draw. I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to drill 2 much smaller holes, so that if I wanted/needed to, I could just hold my finger over one of them, to shut off some of the airflow. maybe two 1/16 holes instead of one 3/32 ?
Andria
No, it's really just a "no name" -- got it dirt cheap, like $22 or something equally ridiculous, so I guess I got what I paid for! It's got the usual crap on the bottom, designed in Russia, made in Germany, and even a Svoemesto logo -- but this ain't no Svoe! It's a clone of a "kayfun lite" rather than a KFL+, so the airflow is not adjustable, and there's no airflow really at all -- scorches wicks like nobody's business. Someone said there may be something I could "fix," line up, etc, but I don't know enough about these devices, and how they're *supposed* to be put together, to feel secure in disassembling to see if there's anything I could do to fix it -- though I guess I'd have nothing to lose, since it's really not usable as it is. Maybe I'll give that a shot, before trying to turn it into a dripper.
The 2 Tobeco KFL+ clones I have, with the 2mm airflow, those are SUPERB! If the original KFL+ is better than these, the thing must walk on water, heal the sick, raise the dead, and provide a vape that will immediately transport you to paradise. I ain't looking to get to paradise anytime soon, so I'll stick with my Tobecos.
Andria
The 2 Tobeco KFL+ clones I have, with the 2mm airflow, those are SUPERB! If the original KFL+ is better than these, the thing must walk on water, heal the sick, raise the dead, and provide a vape that will immediately transport you to paradise. I ain't looking to get to paradise anytime soon, so I'll stick with my Tobecos.
Andria
It's not better functionally, it's machined better, better screws, type of steel, etc...I'm comparing this with Ehpro verison..
but not everybody can justify that large of purchase. I still recommend the well made clones unless you're some sort of collector etc.
I'm 100% sure the authentic is a master piece and it isn't that expensive when compared to a mod. Point is... You never tried a kayfun, don't know if you like the style and must give up 100+ to try it out? Or what about the mini that isn't even made anymore?
Anyway, I m stopping this debate to avoid a clone war.
Regards
Tony
Ps : if I m blown away by my soon to arrive clones, I might actually buy the authentic.
Anyway, I m stopping this debate to avoid a clone war.
Regards
Tony
Ps : if I m blown away by my soon to arrive clones, I might actually buy the authentic.
Yeah, I might buy an authentic KFL+ someday, now that I know that a Kayfun-style produces a vape I really, really like. But you're right, no way would I ever pay that much for a tank and not even know if I would like it or not. I paid about $30-ish for a Nautilus, and then hated it. Couldn't sell it for more than $20, due to all the deep discounts everywhere.
I paid about $10 for my Caterpillar, and really don't like it much either, but at least I can coil it to suit myself, with a single rather than dual coils, and mount the coil so it's RIGHT at the level of the airholes; put the cap on so the single hole I leave open is RIGHT in front of the coil. That way at least I can keep the TH down to a level I can deal with, so I can at least use the thing for tasting. But you still have to go thru re-wicking, between juices, and that's about the biggest pain in the whole endeavor, getting the *right* amount of whatever kind of wick you're using.
I like SmokTech products, and other than my mods, those are really my only 'authentics,' because they're reasonably priced -- and still excellent quality.
Andria
I paid about $10 for my Caterpillar, and really don't like it much either, but at least I can coil it to suit myself, with a single rather than dual coils, and mount the coil so it's RIGHT at the level of the airholes; put the cap on so the single hole I leave open is RIGHT in front of the coil. That way at least I can keep the TH down to a level I can deal with, so I can at least use the thing for tasting. But you still have to go thru re-wicking, between juices, and that's about the biggest pain in the whole endeavor, getting the *right* amount of whatever kind of wick you're using.
I like SmokTech products, and other than my mods, those are really my only 'authentics,' because they're reasonably priced -- and still excellent quality.
Andria
Well, the mini V2.1 clone from ivogo goes almost as cheap as that (shipped) but I found so many good reviews about it especially when compared to the tobeco one, I had to order one... I'm planning to ask my wife to give me a hammer mod for christmas so that mini should look perfect on that
I have such a devilish mind... lol.I would like to have an authentic though someday if I really like the clones. Oh well...
Regards
Tony
Problem is that it probably would end up in a clone/authentic fight. Besides... who doesn't have a kayfun (clone or authentic) nowadays? The group would be as big as ECF itself lol.
Regards
Tony
Regards
Tony
Well yes until you send them to me
The 3.1 has a fill pin broke off inside, still want it?
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