Why Kanthal?

[Oomee]

It was, you probably just overlooked it.

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I just looked back through, and your comment was replying to a partly edited quote, the content of that quote was referring to two coils of differing materials (that comment itself was responding to and contained another quote).

So, no to me it is not very clear, sorry about that.
It seemed that you were comparing two coils of same dimensions but of differing materials and therefore differing resistance.

Apologies again if I misunderstood, was just trying to work out what was going on as it seemed a bit 'off'.

 

[tj99959]

SS has a lower ohms per inch value than Kanthal... so if you want a 2.1 ohm coil, you need 16 feet of the stuff

2.1 ohm coil....Those were the days. If I remember correctly, that was Boge's low resistance option.

I still use Boge SR cartos (3 ohm), so I would need to stuff 24 ft. of the stuff in those little cans.

Actually, I'll let ya know about SS wire in about 50 years, when I run out of Kanthal.

 

[Skold]

I don't use tc so kanthal does me fine & has done for a few years

 

[tj99959]

My observation is that many folks tend to stick with what they first learned to vape with, which is pretty much dependent on when they started vaping. (hard to teach an old dog new tricks)
Also knowledge level coming in makes a big difference. For me, ohms/watts laws were pretty much already a way of life. However the only wattage mod around looked like a converted tire gauge, and wasn't very practical. So the only regulated mods I used were voltage regulated mods. They work, so why change. Same goes for wire, Kanthal works, so why change. I see no need to reinvent the wheel.

It's also easy for me to say that I have always used TC. If the puff is to hot or to cold I know immediately, and make the appropriate adjustments. I switch between mechanical & voltage regulated mods all the time, and it's seamless. The vape is identical. Only, you wouldn't believe the number of times I've pressed on the bottom of a Provari expecting it to fire.

Add:
Made a new coil yesterday, only ... I miss counted the wraps. One less wrap means 1.4 ohms instead of 1.8. One hit on a mechanical, and I knew what I did wrong. So I just stuck the topper on a Provari and reduced the voltage. No big deal.

 

[Skold]

My observation is that many folks tend to stick with what they first learned to vape with, which is pretty much dependent on when they started vaping. (hard to teach an old dog new tricks)
Also knowledge level coming in makes a big difference. For me, ohms/watts laws were pretty much already a way of life. However the only wattage mod around looked like a converted tire gauge, and wasn't very practical. So the only regulated mods I used were voltage regulated mods. They work, so why change. Same goes for wire, Kanthal works, so why change. I see no need to reinvent the wheel.

It's also easy for me to say that I have always used TC. If the puff is to hot or to cold I know immediately, and make the appropriate adjustments. I switch between mechanical & voltage regulated mods all the time, and it's seamless. The vape is identical. Only, you wouldn't believe the number of times I've pressed on the bottom of a Provari expecting it to fire.

I only use one regulated mod now, my tesla nano 120. The rest are mechs, not been into them long but man I love them!
I've never had such a satisfying vape, I would even recommend them with some good research etc... it was easy for me though, I've known about ohms laws for months.

I get what your saying bout always using tc, I use a user setting on my mod that works on how warm the mod is. It's basically just advanced power curves, I can't say I'm keen on mods that have no ramp up!

 

[vapdivrr]

I just looked back through, and your comment was replying to a partly edited quote, the content of that quote was referring to two coils of differing materials (that comment itself was responding to and contained another quote).

So, no to me it is not very clear, sorry about that.
It seemed that you were comparing two coils of same dimensions but of differing materials and therefore differing resistance.

Apologies again if I misunderstood, was just trying to work out what was going on as it seemed a bit 'off'.

I'm not the brightest with totally understanding differences of power, energy, watts, ohms, joules, amps , so I wouldn't of been surprised if I was wrong. But yes, 2 coils of the same material and gauge but one at .5 and the other at 1 ohm

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[Skold]

I'm not the brightest with totally understanding differences of power, energy, watts, ohms, joules, amps , so I wouldn't of been surprised if I was wrong. But yes, 2 coils of the same material and gauge but one at .5 and the other at 1 ohm

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Once you get hang of it it's not that hard, I've only been knowledgable on these since a couple months ago cos wanted a mech

 

[Asbestos4004]

Yeah, sick around for awhile @vapdivrr , you'll eventually get the hang of it.

 

[Oomee]

I'm not the brightest with totally understanding differences of power, energy, watts, ohms, joules, amps , so I wouldn't of been surprised if I was wrong. But yes, 2 coils of the same material and gauge but one at .5 and the other at 1 ohm

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I understand.
As said, just keep plugging away at the old Ohms law and it will all seem perfectly straightforward.
TBH you seem to have pretty good grasp of what's going on, and even those in the field will make mistakes too.

 

[tj99959]

Once you get hang of it it's not that hard, I've only been knowledgable on these since a couple months ago cos wanted a mech

Back in the day, I always said that everyone should get at least one mechanical mod because it forces you to learn ohms/watts laws.
After a person understands how those laws of physics relate to vaping it becomes easy to use any style of mod. Changing resistance, changing wattage, changing voltage, even changing temperature, they all do the same thing.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Back in the day, I always said that everyone should get at least one mechanical mod because it forces you to learn ohms/watts laws.
After a person understands how those laws of physics relate to vaping it becomes easy to use any style of mod. Changing resistance, changing wattage, changing voltage, even changing temperature, they all do the same thing.

Yep....Exactly. And @vapdivrr already has a good grip on this stuff. He's just humble....He's in the keep it simple group, like me.

 

[Skold]

I understand.
As said, just keep plugging away at the old Ohms law and it will all seem perfectly straightforward.
TBH you seem to have pretty good grasp of what's going on, and even those in the field will make mistakes too.

Yeah I made mistakes at the beginning but nothing fatal!

Back in the day, I always said that everyone should get at least one mechanical mod because it forces you to learn ohms/watts laws.
After a person understands how those laws of physics relate to vaping it becomes easy to use any style of mod. Changing resistance, changing wattage, changing voltage, even changing temperature, they all do the same thing.

Exactly helpful tools to

Yep....Exactly. And @vapdivrr already has a good grip on this stuff. He's just humble....He's in the keep it simple group, like me.

I keep it simple too, my builds aren't complex at all I build to 0.5 an vape at about 50 watts with a mech but that kicks like my alien did at 100 watts.
I would definitely recommend mechs for the hobbyist, cloud chaser, flavour chaser etc... it fits all my needs

 

[puffon]

I build to 0.5 an vape at about 50 watts with a mech

0.5 is about where I like to be on a mech, but a 0.5ohm build on a fresh 4.2v battery is about 35.28 watts...

 

[Skold]

Yeah that's right! For me it depends really, I couldn't believe the dude at the vape shop. He had a 0.1 build at 160 watts, was insane. He was taking long draws too!
I could never vape at that!

 

[Asbestos4004]

Edited....To remove.

 

[Zakillah]

I keep it simple too, my builds aren't complex at all I build to 0.5 an vape at about 50 watts with a mech but that kicks like my alien did at 100 watts.
I would definitely recommend mechs for the hobbyist, cloud chaser, flavour chaser etc... it fits all my needs

Its not the same build/atty?
Because throwing a 0,5 on a Mech will not give you more clouds then putting the same atty on a regulated and pump 100 W into it. That makes no sense.
A Mech isnt vape magic.

 

[tj99959]

Edited....To remove.

My thoughts exactly

Skold:
When many of us started using mechanical mods sub ohm vaping didn't even exist.
Many of us still use mechanicals with 1-2 ohms coils.
That's only ~8-16 watts.

 

[vapdivrr]

I understand.
As said, just keep plugging away at the old Ohms law and it will all seem perfectly straightforward.
TBH you seem to have pretty good grasp of what's going on, and even those in the field will make mistakes too.

Ohms law and all things pertaining to vaping isn't a problem, it's being able to truly know all the terminology correctly and being able to be the energy. Like I wish I could be inside the battery and cruise through the whole path until the end and as I pass and feel things, know exactly what they are . Like hey I'm mr. energy and here is Mr current helping me slide along, but where is Mr amps.... you know what I mean?

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[vapdivrr]

Yeah, sick around for awhile @vapdivrr , you'll eventually get the hang of it. [emoji38]

I'm not doing to bad for my first mod[emoji12]

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[Asbestos4004]

I'm not doing to bad for my first mod[emoji12]

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they'll walk us through it so we don't goof......