Why Kanthal?
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Probably even less with the voltage loss. They are probably much better these days, not sure because it's been years since I did the mech thing (I quite mechs when the dna 20 came out) but at least with the mechs I had, voltage loss was a bit. I think most of mine averaged at 3.7 on a fresh battery.0.5 is about where I like to be on a mech, but a 0.5ohm build on a fresh 4.2v battery is about 35.28 watts...
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Not only did I basically start with a mech (although we rarely went below. 6 ohms) I also started out rebuilding gennys, this was within the first 6 months of beginning vaping , right after cig a likes. I know things are much different now, and probably 90 percent now start with regs and pre made coils, but I liked the way I started, it made me totally understand everything first.
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I was simply saying you don't need a high amount of watts to get good clouds on flavour & it was more based on an rda, not the mech itself. How does that not make sense to you?? I've seen people vaping high watts on a cloud beast that can be gained half the watts on an rda. What's so hard to understand about that?!
The issue in the quote you addressed stated for the same atty. Sure, performance difference between tanks exist, but I believe it is accurate that the same atty that requires 100W for best performance is not the type of tank that will do well on a mech.
It was just worded wrong, my experience with rdas is they don't need same wattage as a tank to give a lot of vapour.
& I do know what I'm doing with mech!
& I do know what I'm doing with mech!
Do you also know there are people who like tanks? Comparing tanks to drippers is a bad comparison. Many people (myself included) find dripping every few minutes is a hassle. That's why I squonk. Others use tanks. Some folks like to run those tanks at 100-200 watts. It doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. It just means they found what works for them.
I never said they don't know what they are doing! I actually prefer tanks too building cos of my nerves so stop trying to pick arguments!
No picking here....Just trying to clarify what you meant. It sounded to me like you were saying people who run high powered tanks should just use rdas.
Sorry sometimes don't say things properly, people have different ways of vaping & I get that. I actually think dripping is a hassle too, I managed to use a kabuki with my mech but wouldn't advise. I use a certain mech made that runs it
if I build I prefer rtasEveryone has their own set of likes & dislikes. I smoked Camels, but not everyone liked Camels. OH-WELL!
We've kinda gotten off on a watts kick, when in reality watts has little to do with vape quality.
Watts do nothing but provide heat, air & liquid then cool that heat to the desired temperature.
6 watts can make a coil glow red hot just as easily as 100 watts can.
So we end up back with type of wire used and the type of coil built. (heat flux)
I can tell you one thing for sure, my 30 ga. 2 ohm Kanthal coil flat will not work at 100 watts. You would need 14v to get there. So that simply means that the AFR (air fuel ratio) needs to be adjusted to where the coil works at 8 watts @ ~4v.
Here's the reality of it all. E-liquid is the most expensive product that we use. As a result the industry is designed around e-liquid use. The more you consume .. the more the industry puts in their bank account. That's why you see those working in vape shops using 0.01 ohm coils that use up 60 ml. of juice/day. They want you buying that much juice too. Their not stupid ... they simply want to make money.
We've kinda gotten off on a watts kick, when in reality watts has little to do with vape quality.
Watts do nothing but provide heat, air & liquid then cool that heat to the desired temperature.
6 watts can make a coil glow red hot just as easily as 100 watts can.
So we end up back with type of wire used and the type of coil built. (heat flux)
I can tell you one thing for sure, my 30 ga. 2 ohm Kanthal coil flat will not work at 100 watts. You would need 14v to get there. So that simply means that the AFR (air fuel ratio) needs to be adjusted to where the coil works at 8 watts @ ~4v.
Here's the reality of it all. E-liquid is the most expensive product that we use. As a result the industry is designed around e-liquid use. The more you consume .. the more the industry puts in their bank account. That's why you see those working in vape shops using 0.01 ohm coils that use up 60 ml. of juice/day. They want you buying that much juice too. Their not stupid ... they simply want to make money.
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All very true & if I'm using the baby beast I diy... I wouldn't fancy going into a shop an spending 100 quid on liquids. My local shop does 3 10 ml for a tenner. So that would mean tenner a day on liquids!
Your right it's all about the money.
& yeah the rest is true too, it's amazing how far things have come. People's vaping ranges from 5-300 watts, I couldn't believe it when I saw a thread where someone wanted to vape 250 watts! But as you say we're both different.
Do you have any experience with rayon? I hear it's cheaper than cotton and has more benefits.
Been using rayon for a good couple years and love it. Personally I think it is a bit better then cotton for flavor and wicking in my particular set ups, but it needs to be set up correctly . If you set up rayon exactly like you do cotton, you are not getting it's full potential. But imo it's not a major difference, as I believe all these newer types of wicking materials are fairly close in performance. I often hear people say that rayon is 100 x's better then cotton or that they love cotton but cannot stand rayon, or they love kgd but hate this or that, I don't know but to me if set up correctly, they all taste and perform fairly close. I know if I was presented with 5 exact set ups, all with the latest wicking materials , there is no way I could tell you that tank number one is rayon, tank 2 is cotton bacon, tank 3 is organic ... cotton, etc etc. Yes there are subtle differences and after some time you do have a favorite, but there all close imo
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Yeah I've heard you must tail rayon if you get what I mean but it sounds like it's down to personal preference, I'll order some off amazon
I do find it works better if you do trim the tails down by 1/4 to 1/3 and also use a bit more thru the coil then cotton. I bought from Sally's , a massive box that will last me forever. I can send you some, no problem and it won't cost you a dime. If interested, just PM me your address my friendYeah I've heard you must tail rayon if you get what I mean but it sounds like it's down to personal preference, I'll order some off amazon
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He really does, what a dude!
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