Wife wants to quit, wont try electronic unless it looks like a real cigarette

[swedishfish]

oh thats been a bug up my .... for awhile now lol.

i've been at this for a year, i havent moved on from my 808 nor do i intend to. i don't need a big battery, if i'm draining them left and right then i've got a serious addiction issue that something larger would only feed into. im perfectly satisfied and dont feel like i'm missing out on anything by not moving on from my humble model.

frankly, and this may be heresy, i think big batteries, mods and all that look stupid. they look dopey and people look dopey using them. you're replacing a cigarette, not competing to see how much and how long you can pump yourself full of nicotine i think alot of it is also just a pure highschool "ooh look what i bought/can afford" ...... contest. saying you use a 510 isn't as sexy as bragging about the brand new, bleeding edge, limited edition mod you just bought.

to the op, the cig models work just fine as long as you go for the 510s or the 808s, anything smaller is just useless.

Wow, hostile much? Way to go, insulting 1/2 the board.

How about people that aren't able to change batteries, like construction workers, truck drivers. people that drive and can't cart around batteries all day?

I think I read the average age of a vapor is 50. That means the person has usually been smoking 30+ years. Small devices don't cut it for some people.

I'm happy for you that you like your KR808. Is really that necessary to insult people and tell them they look stupid and have addiction issues?

 

[Sainted_S]

oh thats been a bug up my .... for awhile now lol.

i've been at this for a year, i havent moved on from my 808 nor do i intend to. i don't need a big battery, if i'm draining them left and right then i've got a serious addiction issue that something larger would only feed into. im perfectly satisfied and dont feel like i'm missing out on anything by not moving on from my humble model.

Just because you don't need a bigger battery doesn't mean that others don't. After a long time of vaping, some of us just get tired of fiddling with models like the 510, ego or riva. Mods, like the reo are no fuss, however, most people don't want to start with mods. Most people give newbies the best advice that will help them to be successful with ecigs. I got my brother and sister in law started on vaping with the 510 Mega kits, even that was too much messing around for them . As a result, they don't want to step up to bigger models and are still smoking. I plan to let my brother borrow my reo to see just how painless and easy it can be.

Most of us recommend egos/rivas because it gives the best chance of success and a positive introduction to vaping, it's not because of bias, it's because of the experience we have went through. Most of us have went with the pvs that resemble analogs, but within a month or two (sometimes less) we were buying new kits with bigger batteries. Ask most of us and we will tell you, "I wish I would have started with what I have now." So, the suggestions are not to discount the needs of prospective vapers, it's to save them a bit of money and to give them a better chance of success. They are ways to vape that are much less hassle than the analog-look-alikes. Some people don't mind the fuss, some people are ready to jump in feet first.

frankly, and this may be heresy, i think big batteries, mods and all that look stupid. they look dopey and people look dopey using them. you're replacing a cigarette, not competing to see how much and how long you can pump yourself full of nicotine i think alot of it is also just a pure highschool "ooh look what i bought/can afford" ...... contest. saying you use a 510 isn't as sexy as bragging about the brand new, bleeding edge, limited edition mod you just bought.

to the op, the cig models work just fine as long as you go for the 510s or the 808s, anything smaller is just useless.

As far as mods go, some people do need more power (5v) to get more hit to keep them from returning to analogs. I'd rather look stupid because I'm using a big, clunky mod than go back to buying cigarettes, and had I not upgraded, I probably would slide back into the world of analogs. I have significantly decreased my nicotine intake compared to when I began vaping, and I think alot of mod owners need that extra power because they have decreased the nicotine.

For many mod owners, it's not a matter of "Oh look, I have a better PV than you." It's that we got very tired of the maintenance that small batteries require. If you are happy with your set-up, good for you, but don't assume that everyone has the same tolerance for small batteries that you do.

 

[swedishfish]

This could probably be the most important thing any smoker can do for themselves and it can save their life. I recommend what I think, based on the person's post and my limited experience with several pv's what will help get them off cigarettes. If it's an occasional, recreational smoker a mini is great. A heavy, long time smoker, something bigger. That is the goal in the beginning, get off the cigs. Want something smaller later, get one.

You may think bigger pv's are funny looking but is sure beats being hooked up to an oxygen tube. And to be honest, there's nothing particularly attractive about smoking or vaping anything. I thought that at 16 and that's why I smoked. I'm a little past that point in my life.

 

[Chinner]

I can't argue much about the stupid looking factor. I have a Darwin, which looks like what would happen if a guitar tuner had sex with a tire pressure gauge lol! What I can't argue is the performance factor, there's no arguing that mods will out perform 808's, but I will totally agree that they're not for everyone.

But I'm not willing to crucify anyone here based on their opinion, and I honestly think a comment here on ecf is hardly any reason to be offended. What would we all be doing if there was nobody to disagree with on ECF??

I am a part time truck driver, 13 hour days, and went from 1.5 pack a day, to nothing using only my wimpy 65mm bloog 808 stuff and a PCC. I rotate the batteries every few hours to keep them fresh, and that process takes all of 15 seconds. It can be done, I've done it. a trucker is never without a dc cig lighter anyways, a passthrough would be plenty for most.

So with me, around the 6 week mark, I was over cigarettes. I didn't buy a mod that day because the 808's weren't effective, it's because I was really enjoying vaping and adopted it as a new hobby. I think at that point, I could have quit vaping and smoking, but I honestly always loved smoking, and was motivated to switch by cost more then health, so I bought a high powered toy for fun, and to explore all that vaping has to offer.

Even though the Darwin will last days for me on a single charge, and smokes like a champ, I still prefer the Bloogs at work. Something about how when I'm not paying attention, I still sometimes flick it out the window instinctively, and just how damn close it is to the real thing. I know lots of you want to disassociate with smoking completely, but I have no smokers guilt and don't care what people think I'm smoking.

There is no right or wrong way to do this, we all have our war stories. Some of us become hobbyists and go mod happy, some of us prefer to just vape what they have. The amazing thing is that most of us are not smoking anymore as we argue away here on ecf!

 

[r77r7r]

At the end of the day the ecig needs to suit the needs of the individual. If the needs of that person are for an ecig that looks, feels and weighs the same as an analogue then so be it. That is why the suggestions for the super minis (BLU, volcano, intelicig etc) are all good ones.

We are all different, all want to try these relatively new devices and for the vast majority of us coming from a 20 a day analogue habits, the transition from cigarettes to ecigs is already enough of a barrier to entry without further barriers being out up in the form and function of suggested devices. It does not surprise me at all that smokers just trying these this want something that looks like their existing cigarettes. I know I did when I started.

Noones being 'wrong' in this thread or giving out 'bad advice' as such, though some may wish to consider the original threads requirements. It needs to look and feel as much like a real cig as possible. In that instance a super mini kit is really, the only serious option to consider. You gotta think back to when you first started out, what would have convinced you to make the switch? Sonething which looks like a silver electric toothbrush or yes, something which looks like your existing cigarette habit?

I chose the electric toothbrush and have been happy since. When I came here I was simply READY to quit, and I would've vaped a porcupine needle. I don't want an LED light at the end and I don't want it to look like something I'm trying to get away from.
I think those that want it bad enuf will find their way. There's a nice supplier's tab up top of approved vendor's, and a Google search bar and youtube videos.

 

[Shaitaan]

Just because you don't need a bigger battery doesn't mean that others don't. After a long time of vaping, some of us just get tired of fiddling with models like the 510, ego or riva. Mods, like the reo are no fuss, however, most people don't want to start with mods. Most people give newbies the best advice that will help them to be successful with ecigs. I got my brother and sister in law started on vaping with the 510 Mega kits, even that was too much messing around for them . As a result, they don't want to step up to bigger models and are still smoking. I plan to let my brother borrow my reo to see just how painless and easy it can be.

Most of us recommend egos/rivas because it gives the best chance of success and a positive introduction to vaping, it's not because of bias, it's because of the experience we have went through. Most of us have went with the pvs that resemble analogs, but within a month or two (sometimes less) we were buying new kits with bigger batteries. Ask most of us and we will tell you, "I wish I would have started with what I have now." So, the suggestions are not to discount the needs of prospective vapers, it's to save them a bit of money and to give them a better chance of success. They are ways to vape that are much less hassle than the analog-look-alikes. Some people don't mind the fuss, some people are ready to jump in feet first.


As far as mods go, some people do need more power (5v) to get more hit to keep them from returning to analogs. I'd rather look stupid because I'm using a big, clunky mod than go back to buying cigarettes, and had I not upgraded, I probably would slide back into the world of analogs. I have significantly decreased my nicotine intake compared to when I began vaping, and I think alot of mod owners need that extra power because they have decreased the nicotine.

For many mod owners, it's not a matter of "Oh look, I have a better PV than you." It's that we got very tired of the maintenance that small batteries require. If you are happy with your set-up, good for you, but don't assume that everyone has the same tolerance for small batteries that you do.

well said...everyone has their own preferences...some us were or are social smokers...others like myself have been heavily smoking for a very long time...2 to 3 or more packs a day... the same goes for the type of E-cigs / mods... I could care less what it looks like, right now I have a roughstack.... all that matters is it works for me...

cigarette free since 10/24/2010

 

[Ignitor]

Greensmoke looks pretty real and I like there tobacco flavors but there expensive.

 

[VapingRulz]

I honestly don't care WHAT my PV looks like. I only care that it works. However, smokers who are considering vaping have all sorts of worries and fears to deal with. Most have probably tried quitting numerous times without success and it becomes very demoralizing. They don't really know what we all know: it really works!

If someone wants a pv that looks like a real cigarette, that's ok. In the beginning, it's not about battery life - it's about getting the monkey on your back to loosen its grip. Even the mini e-cigs will do that for most smokers. Yes, they'll likely move on to something better, but I wonder sometimes if would-be vapers who want a simple cig-like pv become afraid when they're confronted with experienced vapers who tell them that they have to have big pv's.

Please, if they are firm about wanting a cig-like pv, help them out by pointing the way toward a KR808 or Joye510. They're not ready to hear about the Ego or Reo or stacked whatever. Don't risk scaring them off.

 

[GolemGolem]

Well the Op hasn't been here for awhile, but I'm another newb with an 808 who likes it. I won a 501 manual here, and the dripping thing is cool, but I only use it when I'm charging up my three 808 bats for work, mainly because I have a huge problem with the manuals clicking on by themselves and staying on until I notice burning (the 5second cut off on works when I'm trying to take a long drag).
If I had to start all over again I'd get two of these to start: 808-D Starter Kit and a couple boxes of Smok Tech Black 808 Cartomizer and some 24mg RY4 juice. I got one of those 10$ kits for a new charger and extra bat, and it's every bit as good as my overpriced smoke-tip stuff. I still don't know what a "primer puff" is for.
//Finally got myself a 5v box mod in the mail, can't wait for it to show up.

 

[dragonladee]

The wording might have been a little harsh, but I get it....there is a stigma here regarding the cig style units. When someone posts asking about those it is always followed by not just recommendations, but almost a total disregard of their possible value....like don't bother, those aren't worth a poo just do this much more complicated thing instead.

I can appreciate that it is well intended advice born out of personal experience but to be honest it is a little off-putting to not be able to extract what you're looking for from all of that if you're just learning. I already had an idea in my mind of what I wanted and was more looking for which out of those was best - not really for someone to tell me to change my mind about what I wanted or tell me that I was silly for it which is pretty much the general attitude. That comment may have offended mod users, but it's the first one I've seen and I think it was more about explaining (albeit harshly) why some people wouldn't want larger units. I've seen hundreds of comments where people say "I only wanted a cig style until I knew better". That can be offensive as well because it kindof implies that if I want a cig style it can only be out of ignorance.

I wouldn't insult anyone else's choice and whatever works for an individual is best at any rate. The majority of people on this site obviously prefer the larger units and mods. Until a month ago I had never in my life seen another person use an e-cig, and had discounted what little I'd heard. If they were more common I would probably feel differently about the style. I've already gotten some strange looks vaping a hot pink volt, I don't want to draw even more attention to what I'm doing with something big and hulky that people will wonder if I built it in my basement- no offense to anyone, that's just honestly part of what drove my preference. That and I liked the idea of keeping as close to the real thing for mental ease of transition.

Frankly I don't think that trying to change someone's mind about what they want increases their chances of success very much. There are WAY too many choices and mods and pieces, and just because you get a larger unit as a starter doesn't mean it will be the one you'll like. It is actually alot more intimidating to have to learn about all that, it was a relief to just screw two pieces together and be vaping out of a box. That has it's own appeal and value in itself.

 

[Nokosa]

For myself it doesn't matter what it looks like. If it produces a good amount of vapor, a great throat hit, and amazing flavor, it could, literally, look like a giant p.... and I'd still use it. I'm looking for an extremely satisfying vape, and, no matter what it looks like, if I get it I'm using it. Right now I'm using an eGo battery with FluXomizers and 24mg Menthol from Madvapes. It provides great throat hit, excellent flavor, great battery life, and tons of vapor.

For the new comers that want to experience the joys of vaping without the cost of expensive mods and DIY's, the 510 is the way to go. You can get it in black or white, and you can simple buy some 510 carto's that are brown, to simulate a real cigarette. If that's what she needs to get off the nasty analogs, then so be it. Help her get what she wants so that she can help herself quit.

 

[ttcounts]

Great she want to quit! She will soon find that it's not a good idea to have a "real" looking ecig though. It didn't take me long to realize that after an hour of battery a big one is the way to go. Really unless you get like 10 510 batteries to have on hand when the battery dies it's way better to have a big honkin battery. I spent $50 on a 510 kit with 2 batteries and you know what happened ... I went and bought another pack of smokes pretty quick because I had no nicotine after my batts died. Just something to think about. JMO for what it's worth ... Good luck!

 

[GolemGolem]

Another reason for 808s, two 280 mah batteries (with a carto looks like a cig, albeit maybe a camel wide 100...) is more than enough to get me though a 10 hour shift, and only two pieces.

 

[dragonladee]

I got two batteries and a portable charger box, swap them out once a day (one fully charged lasts me about 6-8 hours) and the box holds enough power for 4 more charges even if I'm not anywhere near a plug

 

[PhantomII]

For what it's worth. Blu (blucigs.com) has white batteries and brown cartomizers. The carts even have the light brown speckles on 'em to make them look like real filter cigarettes.

It's what I started out with and while personally, I wouldn't recommend them to anybody, if your wife insists on an e-cig that looks like an analog they're pretty close. Or they would be if analogs had a blue "cherry".

It might be a place to start.

 

[tommy b]

I ordered the safe cig first and it felt nothing like a real cigarette to me. At least the kind that I smoked which were Kool mild/blue. The menthol for those were bad and left a disgusting taste in my mouth. Discovered an e cig store close to where I live and their they had the manual eGo 510 with the fat battery. Get that for her with an attomizer and a drip. It hits just like a real cig. Gets about as much vapor as well. Get your own e liquid and make sure it is a PG30/VG70 mix. It gives you the perfect throat hit with that type of an attomizer. Get a few different flavors and experiment with them. It is really fun to smoke and drip your own liquid.

 

[4mehealth]

Wow, talk about threadjacking... (and now I'm just postwhoring).

If she wants a similie, then the 510 manual or KR808's as most have suggested. I guess easiest one would be a 2-piece (batt and carto) and you're off to the races.

I didn't know what I wanted until I was at the store talking to users there and seeing the pv's in person. Then I made my own decision. Somebody suggested letting the OP's wife see vids and/ or photos of potential pv's to use. I think that's a great idea.

OP, you can tell her that no matter what, stepping out of the office for her "break" with a pv is just the same (at least in my case). You just get a few looks (as pv's aren't as common).

As for the stigma of using an e-cig, I dunno. I've already been ostracized for being a smoker, what difference does it make that now the smokers don't like me? The non-smokers are more accepting of me vaping. So it's a trade-off.

 

[GolemGolem]

One thing I never hear us suggest to the new kids is back ups. Most of us have tons of back ups and a junk drawer for a reason. I've been through two chargers and a battery in this last month. A plug in PCC AND a usb charger or just a couple usb chargers are quite, quite welcome when one kicks the bucket. We all learn quickly how this stuff is a lifesaver, that breaks all the darn time.

 

[tommy b]

referring to the last post it is a joye510 eGo battery. Buy one of those. Get a couple atomizers for it and a couple drip tips. Get some e liquid with a few different flavors to try out and a usb charger. The battery can last a day or so from what I have been told. Seriously I am not even thinking about cigs right now and I have only been off the real cigs for 2 days. The rn4081 auto models with pre filled cartridges burnt my throat and just did not satisfy the cravings like this one I just got does. Do not get fooled like I did with the fake reviews online about the more popular brands. I am really happy and I am sure your wife will like it if she is just quitting. Again get 30:70 pg to vg liquid because it takes awhile to get used to the pg at first. Too much pg made my throat really sore.

 

[tommy b]

read the wrong thing it is an EGO 650 MAH Battery manual not a Joye. referring to my last post