For myself I'm not concerned about flavors. I can add a drop of clove flavoring to my liquid. My kitchen currently stores two of the little bottles of candy flavoring, clove and anise. Of course that messes with the liquid's nic level, so if you vape 12 mg., your unflavored should probably be 13 or 14mg, I think, to allow the addition of a drop of flavoring without diluting the nic too much. If it came right down to it, I could vape unflavored for the rest of my life and not really be unhappy about it.
What makes me sad is that these silly bans will wipe out dozens if not hundreds of interesting locally owned businesses where flavors are invented and brewed, small businesses where the owners and employees celebrate health and sweet life with their customers, most of those customers being former cigarette smokers. Has anybody posting here actually met one of the mass media's mythical teen vapers who started because he thought it was cool? Every vaper I have ever met has been a former smoker like me, and I've met many of them since I quit cigarettes for vaping in November 2012.
This is a matter of where the money and control are being pushed by mega wealthy multinational players: pharma (you know, those people who have the smoking cessation products that don't work), big tobacco, and itself International Flavors and Fragrances is a mega giant company.
Long after clove cigarettes were banned you could get them on the internet. You still can. When increasing piles and gobs of taxes made Marlboro's 10.00 per pack in stores, you could get them on the internet for 3.00 a pack, your brand, your red, gold or light. I discovered Davidoff cigarettes when I saw an online opinion from an eastern european who said "Davidoff, gawd. I would step over the corpse of my dead wife to get one." They really were that good.
Anyway, buying on the net meant receiving shipments from former eastern bloc countries and from asia, of all of the name brands you'd see at home in the stores. The ones from the native american sellers were not as cheap. It was the pushing and moving of wealth and power, and I believe the same old mega players are deciding what they want to do with the mad sales of the only successful smoking cessation system ever known, ever.
What happened to in-store cigarette sales is probably predictive of the future of all these beautiful vape shops and labs. You'll still get your favorite flavors and any equipment you want online, from who knows where. From wherever our overseers want to divert the money for their purposes, money from the sales of vape products, money from the wholesale purchases by the online sellers, money from the manufacturers' sales. I'm not trying to trash online sales. I buy from online sellers that are local shops in the US cities where their brick & mortar stands. I'm just saying that we won't be the ones to decide where we'll buy from.
I would only suggest that we keep supporting our favorite vape sellers, buy our unflavored from them if these state bans spread or there is a federal ban on flavors, so that these small businesses can experience their downfall at a slower, less devastating pace.
What makes me sad is that these silly bans will wipe out dozens if not hundreds of interesting locally owned businesses where flavors are invented and brewed, small businesses where the owners and employees celebrate health and sweet life with their customers, most of those customers being former cigarette smokers. Has anybody posting here actually met one of the mass media's mythical teen vapers who started because he thought it was cool? Every vaper I have ever met has been a former smoker like me, and I've met many of them since I quit cigarettes for vaping in November 2012.
This is a matter of where the money and control are being pushed by mega wealthy multinational players: pharma (you know, those people who have the smoking cessation products that don't work), big tobacco, and itself International Flavors and Fragrances is a mega giant company.
Long after clove cigarettes were banned you could get them on the internet. You still can. When increasing piles and gobs of taxes made Marlboro's 10.00 per pack in stores, you could get them on the internet for 3.00 a pack, your brand, your red, gold or light. I discovered Davidoff cigarettes when I saw an online opinion from an eastern european who said "Davidoff, gawd. I would step over the corpse of my dead wife to get one." They really were that good.
Anyway, buying on the net meant receiving shipments from former eastern bloc countries and from asia, of all of the name brands you'd see at home in the stores. The ones from the native american sellers were not as cheap. It was the pushing and moving of wealth and power, and I believe the same old mega players are deciding what they want to do with the mad sales of the only successful smoking cessation system ever known, ever.
What happened to in-store cigarette sales is probably predictive of the future of all these beautiful vape shops and labs. You'll still get your favorite flavors and any equipment you want online, from who knows where. From wherever our overseers want to divert the money for their purposes, money from the sales of vape products, money from the wholesale purchases by the online sellers, money from the manufacturers' sales. I'm not trying to trash online sales. I buy from online sellers that are local shops in the US cities where their brick & mortar stands. I'm just saying that we won't be the ones to decide where we'll buy from.
I would only suggest that we keep supporting our favorite vape sellers, buy our unflavored from them if these state bans spread or there is a federal ban on flavors, so that these small businesses can experience their downfall at a slower, less devastating pace.
